pet party list? good idea? bad idea?

I thought this might be a good idea and was wondering what you all think of it. I thought about it after looking at this thread.

the idea would be a simple pet party list that would tell us the HP of the pet and who it belongs to. maybe make it so when you push down on the D-pad it would scroll to them and back to your party members in the main party list. obviously with the PS3 memory issues this would have to remain simple. but that is all I would want as a healer anyway something simple to make it easier for me to see the HP of pets.

do you all think this is a good idea? or a bad one?
if you choose to respond please keep the discussion civil.

The problem its when theres a SCH, SMN and MCH in a Full party, that list gonna hurt pretty bad in people with low resolution. Maybe optonial, but if that happen SMN going to stop use Sustain and say its the Healer Job to heal theirs pet even when its their job.

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Originally Posted by Kathyz

The problem its when theres a SCH, SMN and MCH in a Full party, that list gonna hurt pretty bad in people with low resolution. Maybe optonial, but if that happen SMN going to stop use Sustain and say its the Healer Job to heal theirs pet even when its their job.

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oh I was meaning something optional. If a SMN stopped using sustain to try to rely on me under normal circumstances I would tell them sustaining their pet is part of their job. no excuses.

It'd be cool as an optional thing. I still wouldn't heal pets as a healer (outside of AoE heals) since it'd still be a waste of mana when SMN/SCH has sustain.

Bad idea. All classes that are capable of summoning pets also have the necessary skills to sustain them or, in MCH's case, replace easily. Putting them in the party list would just add unnecessary clutter.

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Originally Posted by Kathyz

SMN going to stop use Sustain and say its the Healer Job to heal theirs pet even when its their job.

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This all the way as a whm i'm not going to start doing other classes jobs If i see a hurt pet ill sometimes heal or buff it but id rather it not start being my job to baby sit someones pet

No offense, but you are basing this idea off what was a very obvious troll thread.

Imagine a party of 4 SMN/MCH and 2 SCH. Do you really want to see all that unnecessary data cluttering up your screen? I wouldn't. The simple fact of the matter is if your pet is about to die, use Sustain. In the case of a MCH, re-summoning your turret is nearly instantaneous. It should not be another party member's responsibility (in this case, the healer) to keep your pet alive.

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Originally Posted by DragonSlayer45

No offense, but you are basing this idea off what was a very obvious troll thread.

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no offense taken. Actually I wasnt basing it off the troll thread, but a couple responses about not being able to see the pet's HP bar made me start to think about it. I could care less about mr troll's idea that healers are lazy.

They should just copy how pets work in world of warcraft. In World of Warcraft pets take 99% less AoE damage so they never have to be healed by healers in raids.

I got the room on my window so I wouldn't argue with it, but as everyone has said if you have a pet, you have a way of managing its health either by moving it out of AOEs just the way you would yourself or healing skills. Now I can understand mistakes and the pet get hit or cleaved or is almost dead, sure I may toss it a heal but overall, they are bottom of the list in priority.

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Originally Posted by Xanikk999

They should just copy how pets work in world of warcraft. In World of Warcraft pets take 99% less AoE damage so they never have to be healed by healers in raids.

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Yet asshats still wanted me to heal their pet.

Unless it's tanking because the tanks an idiot, no.

It would be bad idea, if it's optional. Some people probably wouldn't have it turned on due to many reasons, most common one would probably be that they simply don't have any more room. Then the cries why healers aren't healing their pets/turrents/whatevers.

And no, I personally don't want pet in my PT list but I'll shallow it if it ever happens. Pet/turrents/whatevers are your responsibility, move them or heal them if they take dmg.

It's bad idea for someone who got little screen. The party list will bloated if they one party with SMN, SCH, and MCH.

no hate but i think this will add un-nessisary clutter. picture the party list eith 2 smn 2 sch 2 mch. pt list will be as followed
tank
tank
dps
dps
dps
dps
healer
healer
pet 1
pet 2
pet 3
pet 4
pet 5
pet 6

(cuz turrents count) thats a list of 14. thats is pretty much the hight of my screen.
now picture 2 more parts like that. -_-;; id hate to see the allience b and c list if it showed pets.

im guessing that link is to a thread about lazy healers?

That person is a known baiter. they make posts as click bait for attention a person in said post fully admited all they do is post on here and ff14 reddit being a troll, please stop giving them attention.

just go to their post post each post is THE SAME with a different topic they mad about or some role they think are bad, last role post was about tanks. replace healer with tank and that was pretty much the post.

AoE heals are more than enough to keep a pet alive, unless they are being cleaved. And that is on the owner of the pet, not the healer, to take care of.

I, personally, play on a fairly small monitor and if the party got any longer than it is now, I would have to remove the chat box. :c

As a healer I would actually support this. With the stipulation that the
"Pet UI" is completely optional and may be turned on or off at will.

More customization options are never a bad idea imho.

The pet HP bar could be displayed similar to the alliance list

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Originally Posted by Greven

The pet HP bar could be displayed similar to the alliance list

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Agreed, we don't need to know its Selene, Ifrit, or the turrent, all we need to know is its about to die. Though I just got MCH up and the turrents cool down is like 15sec or so? Not that big of a wait for an instant cast vs burning a swiftcast or spending 10sec summoning.

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Originally Posted by Greven

The pet HP bar could be displayed similar to the alliance list

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This isn't a bad idea as long as I can turn it off.
Personally I have the alliance lists off too (they are too big and my monitor has too much crap on it already)

I'd say the pet interface, or rather lack of seeing other peoples pet's HP is a game design to push the idea that the pet is the user's responsibility and not for anyone else to take on that responsibility if they are to lazy to take care of it's HP or other things. As mentioned if you were to make Pets part of the UI then others would make it an obligation for healers to also watch the HP of those, even though bringing them back only takes a few seconds most of the time or cost a bit of MP.

I will be honest the only time I do see it as a healer responsibility is when they become poisoned/fire dot, because I have noticed even with sustain and healing from myself the HP still drops quite a bit, instance being in Stone Vigil and I use Ifrit a lot unless it is just impossible to use safely and I have zero ways to remove it.

Well they had to cut out the TP numbers so they could fit in the TP bars. So yeah, not going to happen as they have consistently highlighted limitations not allowing more UI stuff.