Dragonskin maps need better rewards

I did a bunch of these yesterday and got stuff like Rush Grass and Exquisite Buttons which are pretty much worthless from a crafting standpoint. What's more ,a lot of the times the rewards were heavily skewed toward one person (i.e. one person would get all the loot).

I'd like to suggest that these be a bit more fair in allotting people a good mixture of rare mats, and the opportunity (however slight) to drop something like a minion. Increasing the drop rate of Thav stuff couldn't hurt either...

The rates are fine as it is considering you get one map per day. Infact they even increased the drop amount of the thavarian items a long while back.

It's all glamour stuff and random crafting materials that you can get from gathering anyways. What did you expect to get?

Agreed. One day, I helped a few of my friends do like twelve maps. There were four of us in the party. I got item drops literally two times out of those twelve maps, and the other ten maps all I got was gil, while they were awarded the item drops.

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Originally Posted by Stormfur

I'd like to suggest that these be a bit more fair in allotting people a good mixture of rare mats, and the opportunity (however slight) to drop something like a minion. Increasing the drop rate of Thav stuff couldn't hurt either...

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They do have a slight chance to drop a minion - the Bluebird. I've obtained one this way, and a friend of mine got one this way too. The drop rates are fine, and they give tons of useful endgame mats like Adamantite Nuggets/Rivets. They're also a good source of Blue Fox Hide for the Highland barding. The Thav drop rate is pretty good from what I've seen. A little sporadic, but it didn't take long for me and all my friends who do maps regularly to get one of every thav item. The allotments even out if everyone supplies the same number of maps. I generally do them in batches of ~15 (5 people with 3 maps each, or 4 people with 4 maps each).

I don't see the problem with these maps.

Thav silk drop rates are not good, they're ridiculous. I've done over 60 maps and gotten silk one single time.

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Originally Posted by Natashio

It's all glamour stuff and random crafting materials that you can get from gathering anyways. What did you expect to get?

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that's the point, it shouldn't be.

if there are more recipes that use Buttons, Rush Grass and Blue Fox Hide, the rewards would automatically become better.

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Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP

Thav silk drop rates are not good, they're ridiculous. I've done over 60 maps and gotten silk one single time.

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I have received about 16 silks, others in my group have gotten them too of course. So I suppose it depends on your Luck. ^^;

I'm more surprised these chests don't contain stuff like Allagan Gold pieces or the like, considering that treasure maps sole purpose is to make money.

My friends and I get Thavnairian silk and leather quite often, I got 9 silks in about 10 maps before. Yesterday I did 3 maps and got 1 leather and 2 silks.

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Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh

I'm more surprised these chests don't contain stuff like Allagan Gold pieces or the like, considering that treasure maps sole purpose is to make money.

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This would be totally pointless. The maps contain actual gil in random amounts, which everyone gets. Having them drop Allagan pieces as well as flat gil is redundant and the same as having them just drop more gil, which they already can do.

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Originally Posted by SendohJin

that's the point, it shouldn't be.

if there are more recipes that use Buttons, Rush Grass and Blue Fox Hide, the rewards would automatically become better.

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Adding more glamour stuff to the already exhausting glamour fluff will not automatically make them better. Why not for example, add item level 183 gear or item level 193 gear. That would be useful.

But no we can't have that, cause people will complain and whine that no one is doing no other content other than maps for gear. The prices of the maps would be over the roof. RMT... Yeah forget this idea.

Also remember, just like PvE content becomes obsolete with every mayor patch because of this vertical progression, so does glamour fluff. What's today's glamour fad becomes tomorrow's moth-eaten drab.

The peiesteskin maps gave far superior rewards at their prime time.

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Originally Posted by Natashio

Adding more glamour stuff to the already exhausting glamour fluff will not automatically make them better. Why not for example, add item level 183 gear or item level 193 gear. That would be useful.

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i didn't say anything about glamour. i have no idea what you're ranting about.

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Originally Posted by SendohJin

i didn't say anything about glamour. i have no idea what you're ranting about.

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The crafting materials that you mentioned are only good glamour stuff.

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Originally Posted by Nyalia

This would be totally pointless. The maps contain actual gil in random amounts, which everyone gets. Having them drop Allagan pieces as well as flat gil is redundant and the same as having them just drop more gil, which they already can do.

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Then what else is the coffer supposed to drop? Unless you need the crafting materials, everything inside will equate to gil rewards anyway, so you might as well give it an extra boost that gives a flat reward rather than a crafting material whose value can change over time.

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Originally Posted by Yaichiro

The peiesteskin maps gave far superior rewards at their prime time.

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with a bonus chimera surprise.
so far the dragonskin has no boss map.
maybe they'll add those along with new rewards

The turtle was also a beast. Dragonskin maps are much tamer.

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Originally Posted by Natashio

The crafting materials that you mentioned are only good glamour stuff.

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which is why i asked for more recipes.

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Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh

Then what else is the coffer supposed to drop? Unless you need the crafting materials, everything inside will equate to gil rewards anyway, so you might as well give it an extra boost that gives a flat reward rather than a crafting material whose value can change over time.

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I'm sorry, what? Most weeks, I do my weekly red scrip turn-ins almost entirely with mats obtained from maps, and maps generally give me HQ versions. That's hardly the same as an item that can only be sold to vendors for a fixed amount of gil.

What are you suggesting, that the treasure maps could check the marketboard and automatically sell the materials for you, so the mats are exactly the same as a gil reward? That's absurd.

Do you have something other than hyperbole?

I keep hoping that there will be new recipes that use Rush Grass, Exquisite Buttons and Blue Fox Hide. I've done 50+ of these maps and never seen a Thav silk/leather. Crafting mats are great - I'm not complaining about that, but it would be nice to see the occasional Dusk leather, you know?

You are unlucky. This is the map life.

The miscellaneous lv. 56+ mats are a good enough incentive - great for red scrips.

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Originally Posted by Stormfur

I keep hoping that there will be new recipes that use Rush Grass, Exquisite Buttons and Blue Fox Hide. I've done 50+ of these maps and never seen a Thav silk/leather. Crafting mats are great - I'm not complaining about that, but it would be nice to see the occasional Dusk leather, you know?

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Dusk leather only comes from Airship ventures.

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Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh

I'm more surprised these chests don't contain stuff like Allagan Gold pieces or the like, considering that treasure maps sole purpose is to make money.

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Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh

Do you have something other than hyperbole?

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he has logic. your original post was that maps should drop Allagan Gold Pieces.

when you clear a Dragonskin map, every party member gets anywhere from 2k to 8k GIL.

dropping an Allagan Gold Piece into the loot pool is the equivalent of the map dropping 10.5k gil instead of 8k gil. maps that already drop gil do not need to drop Allagan pieces, it's redundant.

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Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP

Dusk leather only comes from Airship ventures.

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Yeah, but it would be nice to have an alternative way of getting it.

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Originally Posted by Stormfur

Yeah, but it would be nice to have an alternative way of getting it.

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Oh, gotcha. Yes, I agree ;)

I do think the "one person gets everything out of the chest" happens too often, but aside that, what actually comes out of the chests is mostly fine.

heard they nerfed the HQ drop rates though. Which is sad.