Level 60 retainer gear

For level 60 retainers, I can't seem to find through searching what iLevel (DoW/M) or Gathering is needed for the maximum return from assigned ventures.

I currently have one DoW retainer at iLvl 152 and another at 138. I also have Gathering retainers at Gathering 500 and 504.

For gathering retainers, does perception matter at all? None of the in game messages talk about perception - only gathering. I notice, though, that my gathering retainers don't bring back HQ stuff.

As far as I'm aware, it's only the gathering stat that matters, with HQ being random.
Much like battle retainers it's only ilvl that matters. What gear type and other stats you use doesn't matter at all.

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Originally Posted by Canadane

As far as I'm aware, it's only the gathering stat that matters, with HQ being random.
Much like battle retainers it's only ilvl that matters. What gear type and other stats you use doesn't matter at all.

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It's what I understand too, would be interested if people have figured if ilvl makes a difference as retainer level I think impacts time/amount of resources gained

I have been extremely disappointed with my retainers since HW.

My battle retainer is decked out in dungeon/Law gear, average ilevel somewhere over 150 last I checked, and on Quick Venture she brings back ... Kukuru Butter and Harbor Herring.

Well, understand that retainers' have massive loot lists and Quick draws from it randomly. This is how they come back with everything from allagan leather to crab shells. They even have some of the rare 1.0 leve drops if rumors are to be believed. And from personal experience all iL/gathering does is expand that already massive list to include newer things.

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Originally Posted by Moonleg

on Quick Venture she brings back ... Kukuru Butter and Harbor Herring.

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You're a Miqo'te. She probably thinks you'd like a chocolate-covered fish.

yea my retainer is i level 170... something (forget off the top of my head), but full 180 gear except the one ring. i've been bringing back more junk that ever before, literally. no dyes, no rare, unique or useful items in a loooong time (really ever since Heavensward came out). silver pieces and some useless hide, on the highest exploration with very high item level. what gives?

Highest ventures at the moment are only level 55. Hopefully they increase that with 3.1 and new shinies to the loot tables.

My ACN retainer is probably around ilvl 175 (mostly upgraded law gear) and brings utter junk all the time. So, I stopped sending her on Quick Ventures, and only send her out to get me mats for crafting.

Yup, my retainers bring back lots of crap as well!

What I'm trying to figure out is the ilvl / Gth stat threshold used in the game to gate the rare stuff. On my gatherer (gathering = 500), when I do a Quick exploration, I get the message "Your retainer's current gear should improve the chances of finding rare items."

Does that mean I'm at the maximum, useful level? What are the exact thresholds? I know that you need ilvl 140 to hunt for level 60 mats (the game tells you that) but not sure about quick exploration thresholds.

DoL Retainers:

level 51-55 specified ventures. Retainer level 60.

Only Main Hand equipped: Brings back 15 items

Full gear: brings back 30 items


DoW retainer:

Memory is a bit fuzzy, but didn't HW Combat ventures start out by brining back 5 items and caps out at 10 items with full high level gear?

Speaking of gathering retainers, is level 55 the highest they can go for 18 hour ventures?

Around 578-ish Gathering is required to bring back the max 30 of the highest level crafting mats from regular 1hr ventures for gatherer retainers. Perception does affect how often and how much HQ they bring back, but it is still pretty random. There seems to be threshold below which they will never bring back HQ items, but I not sure what it is. When I didn't bother with any Perception gear, my retainers never brought back HQ items, when I decked them out with the best stuff, they sometimes brought back no HQ, sometimes full 30 HQ, and anywhere in between.

For battle retainers, i150 is the bare minimum to bring back the max 10 of the highest level mats, and I assume ilevel also affects HQ rate.

Quick ventures are completely random regardless of your retainers stats or levels or gear or anything. The only thing that makes a difference is Gathering (ilevel for battle retainers) for the "items most rare", which is actually not a very large pool of items, most of which are mostly useless now in 3.0. Super rare stuff like EX primal mats and coil rare drops are just super rare tier items, with nothing you can do to increase (or decrease) your chances of getting them.

18hr ventures have a relatively disappointing selection of mats, even at the level 51 and level 55 ventures. At the 51 and 55 level you always get a small pile of allagan pieces, and then some random mat needed for the zodiac crafted mats, or the forager/supra/lucis gathering tools, or rosemary/virgin basilisk eggs for Tinker's Calms. The only real purpose of these is the super rare returns. The level 51 ventures bring back the same rare minions and rare mats that the level 50 ventures did, things like Floss Silk, Fat Cats, and the like. Level 55 also brings back these rare items, along with Iron Giant Scraps (Miner), Lupin Seedling ( Botanist), Bear Skin (Hunter), and Gestahl (Fisher).

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Originally Posted by Gilraen

They even have some of the rare 1.0 leve drops if rumors are to be believed.

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They do in some stuff. Pudding flesh is a hunt option. I think the hunt is 6 an hour but I've done it many times and I always get 9. Always 2 and 7. Most times 2 HQ, 7 NQ but it has on a few occasions gone the other way around.

Mine brings back dye regularly. Arcanist. Two of them, but one hunt for stuff to sell.

No gathering retainers. Mixed dungeon gear, though Kyn is wearing my old healing accessories. Wish she could wear my old healer gear...

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Originally Posted by Stormfur

Speaking of gathering retainers, is level 55 the highest they can go for 18 hour ventures?

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For now, yes. But like in 2.x new 18h ventures will be adding during main patches. The lv60 18h ventures would start to give out rare mats (like the lv50 ones do).