Blunt Weapons as options for exisiting DoW

My suggestion does NOT involve changing the class standard damage type, visuals only.

I was thinking today how cool it would be to see my Paladin use a mace. Not for any effect, just the visual. A shield/mace combo is a common sight in fantasy settings, and the mace could even be given "edges" to justify lore wise the lack of an altered damage type.

Then I started thinking about other classes that could benefit from such an addition. Monks using tonfa and Warriors using a hammer came right to mind. I just think it would be fun to have a couple such weapons as Glamour options for classes they made sense for. Maybe as Golden Saucer or crafted level 1 Glamour items?

I don't think any of the weapons I mentioned are in the lore as strictly belonging to a certain job already, thought I could be wrong.



Thoughts?

Personally, I don't think they should waste potential weapons on the current jobs and they should save them for new ones. =w=

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Originally Posted by Mimilu

Personally, I don't think they should waste potential weapons on the current jobs and they should save them for new ones. =w=

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Most jobs people want already have canonical weapons attached to them, though.

It would be nice if the damage type was weapon dependent and not based on your job.
It'll never happen though. 90% of monks would suddenly be slashing or piercing.

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Originally Posted by MatthiasS

I was thinking today how cool it would be to see my Paladin use a mace. Not for any effect, just the visual. A shield/mace combo is a common sight in fantasy settings, and the mace could even be given "edges" to justify lore wise the lack of an altered damage type.

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Originally Posted by Felis

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I don't get it. That's not a mace, even a little. That is a proto-sword with obsidian edges used by South American tribes in the past. Not fantasy knights. I've honestly always thought including those things made no sense.

Actually, that's a proto-type baseball bat. In my country we use those for a very popular baseball variant.

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Originally Posted by Mimilu

Personally, I don't think they should waste potential weapons on the current jobs and they should save them for new ones. =w=

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There are a huge variety of weapons out there though, being able to use different ones would be awesome though they'd have to keep it in line with the current animations, for example the animations for the two handed axe could work very well with a two handed mace and the one handed sword animations could be great for a one handed axe, or changing the guns to crossbows, etc.

I understand their idea of one class has one weapon, but they could always add a larger variety of weapon skins even if they put it in the mog station. To use another game with a similar concept as an example, TERA follows the same one class one weapon rule, but their in game store has a wide variety of skins to turn your weapon in to something else without changing the animations.

For example, TERA's Slayer (two handed sword dps class) has a weapon skin to turn their sword in to a giant mace and a joke weapon skin that turns it in to a popsicle (no I'm not kidding). The Berserker (two handed axe dps) has a weapon skin that turns their axe in to a giant hammer and a joke weapon skin that turns it in to a squeeky hammer toy. The warrior in that game (dual wield evasion tank with two swords) has a weapon skin that turns one sword in to a mace and the other in to an axe and a joke weapon skin that turns their two swords in to a pair of giant wrenches.

I could go on, but you get the idea.

I think this is a great idea.
Although, as Khalithar said, the weapons would have to be designed based around pre-existing animations, which could limit the options available, but with a bit of creativity wouldn't.

I'm heavily opposed to the idea of "joke" weapons, though. The Mog ones already are too much....

MCH should be a blunt weapon job:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-sense-for-MCH :rolleyes:

You can already glamour your sword into a cricket bat. :V

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Originally Posted by FoxyAreku

You can already glamour your sword into a cricket bat. :V

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Yes, it certainly has its uses :)
https://i.imgur.com/qp8UNI3.jpg

Brain bleach, please.

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Originally Posted by Moonleg

Brain bleach, please.

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Oh my lord yes lol.

<3 you Tonrak.

There was one MMO I played where Templar Knights (which would be this game's Paladin) could use Greatswords, swords, and Maces. Guess which one 99% of them used though? Maces all the time because all the other weapons were not worth using. If a Monk could use a slashing or piercing weapon they would never touch their blunt weapons again. If a Machinist had the choice of using guns that dealt blunt damage no good MCH would pick it over one that did piercing damage. And if they added clubs to the warrior class that dealt blunt damage that would also be useless.

It's sooooo hard to balance. Classes are hard to balance, let alone trying to balance out different weapons for one class.

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Originally Posted by Coatl

There was one MMO I played where Templar Knights (which would be this game's Paladin) could use Greatswords, swords, and Maces. Guess which one 99% of them used though? Maces all the time because all the other weapons were not worth using. If a Monk could use a slashing or piercing weapon they would never touch their blunt weapons again. If a Machinist had the choice of using guns that dealt blunt damage no good MCH would pick it over one that did piercing damage. And if they added clubs to the warrior class that dealt blunt damage that would also be useless.

It's sooooo hard to balance. Classes are hard to balance, let alone trying to balance out different weapons for one class.

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My suggestion is that weapons change be cosmetic only. It seems I was not clear.

I'm perfectly fine with including visual variants to weapons, but if possible I'd also like for it to change the sound effects associated with them as well. For example, as someone mentioned earlier, a MCH weapon that was skinned as a crossbow would be nice, but some of the MCH attacks make too much of a "boom" to really work with that weapon......

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Originally Posted by MatthiasS

My suggestion does NOT involve changing the class standard damage type, visuals only.

Then I started thinking about other classes that could benefit from such an addition. Monks using tonfa and Warriors using a hammer came right to mind. I just think it would be fun to have a couple such weapons as Glamour options for classes they made sense for. Maybe as Golden Saucer or crafted level 1 Glamour items?

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what you are asking is what should have been done in the first place. Monks for example should have had blunt weapons but lately all they get are "piercing" weapons like the patas or even the mnk zodiac. War can have hammers as Nero uses a gun "hammer" as his weapon but uses the same move sets as the warrior.

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