This MUST be fixed A.S.A.P.!!

Adjust Frontline: Secure mode to Lv.60 Don't do slaughter. Please upvote it. I look forward to it.

And a Lv.60 Wolves' Den for 3.1 while we wait for 3.2 tyty.

I'd enjoy seeing secure mode make a comeback.

100% liked and supported!!!

pls make it happen

Slaughter mode is the cancer of PvP for months. It should be forgotten.

I'm worried that having 3 lvl 60 frontlines would split the playerbase and make queues really long. However, I really want Secure back. Maybe they can do a daily thing, like day 1 is secure, day 2 is seize, etc and rotate that?

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Originally Posted by PotatoTree

I'm worried that having 3 lvl 60 frontlines would split the playerbase and make queues really long. However, I really want Secure back. Maybe they can do a daily thing, like day 1 is secure, day 2 is seize, etc and rotate that?

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I think you can just select all 3 queues in the df and get whatever pops. But honestly I think slaughter would overtake all of them considering how it was back when it was FL secure and slaughter in 2.4/2.5.

Slaughter was/is garbage.

But lvl 50 is better than lvl 60 :O
Level 60 skills sucks.

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Originally Posted by PotatoTree

I'm worried that having 3 lvl 60 frontlines would split the playerbase and make queues really long. However, I really want Secure back. Maybe they can do a daily thing, like day 1 is secure, day 2 is seize, etc and rotate that?

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make it like the CT weekly reward. you have to win a match in each mode of PvP (including the Wolves' Den) to get the reward. The material that use to upgrade our AF2 should be a good reward.

Secure is the most balanced and flexible mode. All jobs are on an even playing field. It's no wonder people say SMN is OP. In Slaughter/Seize it's not hard to hide behind a mob and insta cast. Here's a list of why I prefer Secure.

1. No RNG! (Seize)
2. Not a cluster**** in mid! (Slaughter)
3. No healers in your team? It's a lot easier to handle. You can assign them the "B Team" and have them handle the drone spawns in mid, or reinforce the other alliances with extra back up.
4. Fair fights! It's usually 8 vs 8 when fighting on a flag. In the other 2 modes, you're rarely evenly matched. If you're a PUG, it's easier to coordinate a strategy with your party. This means players will learn how to play their jobs effectively, and as a team! BLM's can actually keep people slept.
5. Node comebacks! (200 points)
6. This mode is more organized with its objectives. It's comforting to play a mode with random people, where the teams are usually split 3 ways. That way, you can see where your weaknesses are and come up with strategy accordingly. It's easier to handle.
7. More communication! Since the teams were split 3-ways, there was coordination in parties and between alliances. In Slaughter/Seize I never experienced it on the same level, not even close. Getting those wins where your whole GC maneuvered the situations perfectly is awesome. Whereas in Seize, people pray to RNGeesus while hoping they don't incur the wrath of an enemy GC!

I'd be down for this. More variety is a good thing, and it would be nice to see the Frontlines Roulette actually be a Roulette instead of just a longer que time for seize.

Yes, please! You have my vote!

Yeah they need to do this. ALL they need to do is add level 60 Secure / Wolves den to 60 and they'd be giving pvp a massive boost in fun. Even without a ranking system this would be a HUGE step in the right direction.

I just hope slaughter will stay at lvl50 forever because it would take over both secure and seize, peeps just wants to mindlessly kill for some reason and i find that extremely boring. Killing+doing objective at the sametime is alot more fun imo and thats why i prefer secure and seize.

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Originally Posted by Synestra

I just hope slaughter will stay at lvl50 forever because it would take over both secure and seize, peeps just wants to mindlessly kill for some reason and i find that extremely boring. Killing+doing objective at the sametime is alot more fun imo and thats why i prefer secure and seize.

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Ugh, it's so true. I almost don't want them to make level 60 Secure, because then level 60 Slaughter will almost certainly be released at some point, and absolutely kill PVP again.

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Originally Posted by Synestra

I just hope slaughter will stay at lvl50 forever because it would take over both secure and seize, peeps just wants to mindlessly kill for some reason and i find that extremely boring. Killing+doing objective at the sametime is alot more fun imo and thats why i prefer secure and seize.

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Healer's complain about always aimed first gonna be strong in this one...

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Originally Posted by Gryzz

Secure is the most balanced and flexible mode. All jobs are on an even playing field. It's no wonder people say SMN is OP. In Slaughter/Seize it's not hard to hide behind a mob and insta cast. Here's a list of why I prefer Secure.

1. No RNG! (Seize)
2. Not a cluster**** in mid! (Slaughter)
3. No healers in your team? It's a lot easier to handle. You can assign them the "B Team" and have them handle the drone spawns in mid, or reinforce the other alliances with extra back up.
4. Fair fights! It's usually 8 vs 8 when fighting on a flag. In the other 2 modes, you're rarely evenly matched. If you're a PUG, it's easier to coordinate a strategy with your party. This means players will learn how to play their jobs effectively, and as a team! BLM's can actually keep people slept.
5. Node comebacks! (200 points)
6. This mode is more organized with its objectives. It's comforting to play a mode with random people, where the teams are usually split 3 ways. That way, you can see where your weaknesses are and come up with strategy accordingly. It's easier to handle.
7. More communication! Since the teams were split 3-ways, there was coordination in parties and between alliances. In Slaughter/Seize I never experienced it on the same level, not even close. Getting those wins where your whole GC maneuvered the situations perfectly is awesome. Whereas in Seize, people pray to RNGeesus while hoping they don't incur the wrath of an enemy GC!

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I need all of this in my life pronto. I fear by doing this however they'd add Slaughter back in the mix which makes me weary of them adding lv60 versions.

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Originally Posted by PotatoTree

I'm worried that having 3 lvl 60 frontlines would split the playerbase and make queues really long. However, I really want Secure back. Maybe they can do a daily thing, like day 1 is secure, day 2 is seize, etc and rotate that?

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I'd be cool with something like that. Its a good idea. By just manipulating rewards it can influence everyone to change things up. Everyone does only seize now because of the relevant tomes and que times.

Someone mentioned a weekly quest like CT. I think that would help too.

Also if they made all three Lv.60, and merged them into 1 random roulette, I wouldn't complain. It's better than having only the newest pvp mode active imo.

Secure was the best, please make this happen SE.

Voted. Me wantz

I think I'm always too early with suggestions, as I also thought the same thing a month ago and it got little support lol: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...Needed-for-3.1 But, I am glad you got everyone's attention and votes!

Seeing as 3.1 is very far away still, it's plenty of time to adjust Secure to Lv.60. Give us some new PvP content for 3.1 SE. D:

Now this is a movement I can get behind.

I would happily throw away that field commander set if it means I could have actual fun in PvP again.