Dodore Doublet - Wutai

Hi there,

I'd like to purchase a Dodore doublet for 10m (anything more is a rip off). I will have the funds by Friday the 18th of March. Please send me a tell in game, I'm on fairly often.

Thanks,
Jack Daniels

Ok maybe a lot sooner than next friday lol. Maybe tomorrow. Still please let me know.

"anything more is a ripoff"

Little commentary probably cost you any chance you had. 15 million on market wards, or wait a month until it costs what you think it should.

I second Falcon on this one. Especially since money is practically useless right now.

That arguement is two sided. And I have lots of patience so worst case scenario I'll just have to wait. Anyone selling it for more than ten million should be ashamed of themselves. Anyone buying it for more than 10m should feel pretty silly too.

Dargoth, gil = time. It takes a lot longer for me to earn 10m than it does for a few people to hunt Dodore. 15m is just silly.

Simple solution is just to join a NM based LS, even if your only on it for NM runs. xD Then ya save 10m or however much ya will buy it for.

I would but unfortunately I haven't leveled a DoW or DoM past 17 yet.

Just DoL and DoH past 40..

Squeenix has alienated me yet again.

Supply and demand.

An item is worth whatever a person is willing to pay for it.

If there's only one Dodore Doublet for sale on the server and there's 50 people wanting to buy it, the doublet will sell to the highest bidder. Since the game isn't a real auction you have to start the price high. If no one is willing to pay 15 million then the price is lowered to 14, 13 etc. until it reaches a price that the highest "bidder" is willing to pay. As it happens there are people willing to pay 15 million for it. Once those all have one the price will drop.

This is basic MMO economics and applies in the real world too somewhat.

I'm saying no more as I don't wish to be dragged into an argument.

10 mil is a rip off IMO

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Originally Posted by Xenor

Supply and demand.

An item is worth whatever a person is willing to pay for it.

If there's only one Dodore Doublet for sale on the server and there's 50 people wanting to buy it, the doublet will sell to the highest bidder. Since the game isn't a real auction you have to start the price high. If no one is willing to pay 15 million then the price is lowered to 14, 13 etc. until it reaches a price that the highest "bidder" is willing to pay. As it happens there are people willing to pay 15 million for it. Once those all have one the price will drop.

This is basic MMO economics and applies in the real world too somewhat.

I'm saying no more as I don't wish to be dragged into an argument.

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exactly, i'm getting every drop of gil i can out of them, and if you disagree I invite you to cut into our market.

Ichiban honestly gives EXCEPTIONAL deals on their NM equipment to strangers who don't do NMs considering how worthless gil is and how much effort it takes to do NMs. He's got you by the balls if you don't do NMs, and could pretty much charge you whatever he wants if he waits long enough for a rich crafter to come into level. We sure aren't going to sell them. We'll give one to every dedicated member and then stop camping it before we start selling them.

I creep up to 15 million gil on accident and I avoid gil like the plague due to how insolvent an asset it is. Rapture is doing the server a big favor by selling all these things. I don't even see a reason to exchange a dodore doublet for any amount of gil except to play the futures market in hopes that they nerf gil aquisition hard or develop gil-eating content that people pay out the nose for.

Goes without saying that they could earn way more than 15 million gil as a team in the time it takes to get a wing, so really they're doing you a favor and maybe advertising for the shell a bit.

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Originally Posted by Ichi

exactly, i'm getting every drop of gil i can out of them, and if you disagree I invite you to cut into our market.

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Please, please, please, cut into the market >.> more competition, makes the game more intresting ROFL

My only point on this is that you shouldn't charge more just because you can. For example, I couldn't afford to get my wisdom teeth pulled by this one dentist. He wanted to knock me out and surgically remove them, that would have cost 3000 dollars.. I got a second opinion, that dentist said he would just give me local anesthetic and pull them out without surgery, total was 500 dollars. Just because you can charge more, doesn't mean you should. Some really nice people who are not privilaged enough to have enough money for these things (casual players) are getting shafted out of things that assholes with lots of money get no problem(not implying people who buy dodores are assholes here). In an economy where you can buy millions of gil for less than what it would cost to buy a package of toilet paper irl.. it just seems kind of silly to hoard money. But that's just my opinion. If I had the means to do so, I would undercut in a heartbeat. I do all the time whenever I can. Just like that douche who is manipulating the steel market, he was selling the highest BOT secondary for 400k, i had three made and sold the other two for 300k.

But I'm just a silly idealist.

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Originally Posted by Peregrine

I creep up to 15 million gil on accident and I avoid gil like the plague due to how insolvent an asset it is. Rapture is doing the server a big favor by selling all these things. I don't even see a reason to exchange a dodore doublet for any amount of gil except to play the futures market in hopes that they nerf gil aquisition hard or develop gil-eating content that people pay out the nose for.

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I never really thought about it like that.

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Originally Posted by JackDaniels

My only point on this is that you shouldn't charge more just because you can. For example, I couldn't afford to get my wisdom teeth pulled by this one dentist. He wanted to knock me out and surgically remove them, that would have cost 3000 dollars.. I got a second opinion, that dentist said he would just give me local anesthetic and pull them out without surgery, total was 500 dollars. Just because you can charge more, doesn't mean you should. Some really nice people who are not privilaged enough to have enough money for these things (casual players) are getting shafted out of things that assholes with lots of money get no problem(not implying people who buy dodores are assholes here). In an economy where you can buy millions of gil for less than what it would cost to buy a package of toilet paper irl.. it just seems kind of silly to hoard money. But that's just my opinion. If I had the means to do so, I would undercut in a heartbeat. I do all the time whenever I can. Just like that douche who is manipulating the steel market, he was selling the highest BOT secondary for 400k, i had three made and sold the other two for 300k.

But I'm just a silly idealist.

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Your downtrodden man argument is getting stretched well beyond its capability to defend your position. You say it's silly to horde money. In your head you seem to think that because people shouldn't horde gil that you should therefore get sold items for less gil. That is a leap of extraordinary spin. In reality IF people agree with you that it's silly to horde gil...you don't get sold a Dodore doublet PERIOD.

Rather, if you think that hording gil is silly, then pay the piper with it.

I paid 6 million gil for a harley hat. I will pay 6 million gil for a jade crook +3 if they get that low. If not I'll probably buy it for 10 because again. My gil creeps up on me insidiously and it is a BAD asset.

If Rapture wants the gil, push the hot potato on to them. They're Rubles, man. 250k in a leve reset just by doing something you'd already do anyway.

Either way the economy is broken and SE needs to remedy this quickly.

wait a month if u cant afford it, every NM piece has already dropped a ton, but right now people will pay 15 mil for it, its rare, rank a conj or thm, join a LS that does NMs, u can be r20 conj thm if u want and heal NMs, they easy

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Originally Posted by LilBaller

wait a month if u cant afford it, every NM piece has already dropped a ton, but right now people will pay 15 mil for it, its rare, rank a conj or thm, join a LS that does NMs, u can be r20 conj thm if u want and heal NMs, they easy

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Thanks for the friendly advice :)

Who's trolling? Ohhh you're that person that started mouthing off at me because I saw you crafting in high rank gear as a low rank carpenter and commented on it. Not only did you belittle me but you made the mistake of doing it in public, so I reported you to a GM, and you were "dealt with" haha. Good job!

EDIT: If memory serves me correctly, you are Admiral Zander?

For the record, I just want to get this straight because some people who play online games seem to get really... perterbed when I don't play or act the way "i should be". I'm not going to be formal or polite, and i'm not going to not do something just because someone else doesn't want me to.

The polite way for you Zander to have dealt with that situation would have been to take my unsolicited advice and either ignore it, or reply with a simple "oh i know, i'm only doing a few crafts as carpenter and didn't bother to change". But instead you started attacking me, I believe you were going on for ten minutes in /say calling me a noob and whatever else including derogatory remarks about my sexual orientation. Then you went out of your way to come into the other room and emote all over me in your dodore doublet after I had blacklisted you.

So not only am I hesitant now to talk to strangers (people like you are destroying the social aspect between strangers in mmorpgs), but I have a severe disdain for elitists such as yourself. You sir leave a very bad taste in my mouth, and I'm not the only one who's blacklisted you.

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Originally Posted by JackDaniels

I saw you crafting in high rank gear as a low rank carpenter and commented on it.

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So what you're saying is you need to mind your own business and keep your yapper shut. Zander's way out of your league, and above your usellessly interjecting comments.

As he said, a Dodore would be a waste on you anyway. Pretty hypocritical to chirp at zander for wearing over-level gear as an underlevelled carpenter trying to buy a smith's body piece.

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Originally Posted by Peregrine

So what you're saying is you need to mind your own business and keep your yapper shut. Zander's way out of your league, and above your usellessly interjecting comments.

As he said, a Dodore would be a waste on you anyway. Pretty hypocritical to chirp at zander for wearing over-level gear as an underlevelled carpenter trying to buy a smith's body piece.

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Thanks for the hypocritical elitist input.
EDIT: I want a dodore doublet because 1) It looks cool and will match my hair color, my favorite color is red. 2) because it will give me a tiny tiny boost to magic craftsmanship. Do you have a problem with this?
EDIT2: If you think I'm going to put someone on a pedastul because they are a higher league than me than you're sorely mistaken. I don't judge someone based on how many 50s they have (ie; zero life), I judge a person on their character. CHARACTER: the aggregate of features and traits that form the individual nature of some person or thing. Something Zander is lacking, and clearly you too.
EDIT3: You two should go troll some Pokemon forums, that may be more your "league"

This dude Peregrine is just ridiculous. I've seen him a few times in Ul'dah and such, never a word from him. All of a sudden he's counting my pockets and going on and on about how he and his LS are right and everyone else is fail.

Which may very well be true, since his LS is half the server :P

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Originally Posted by Scarface

This dude Peregrine

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LOL :)

/10char

FYI I used all high lvl crafting gear while skilling up on carp from 1-50. Makes no sense to waste -1 invetory space and X amount of gil for +1 of X stat when you'll just out level it and move on in a week.

In retrospect it makes sence, honestly paying to get repairs done is really cheap when you don't go to the repair NPC. I thought Zander may be new to the game when I mentioned it, but nope he turned out to be a huge elitist loser.

*Grabs the popcorn* Chom chom chom

this is entertaining, also most people here i saw post on the forgive and forget thread, yet come here acting as children going off on each other, get over it, move on, happy thoughts! 1 more day!

See you can call me names, whether they are accurate or not is all a matter of opinion. The two things you can count on from me are 1) consistancy and 2) decency.

I'm not fake or a blatant liar like some of the people attacking me in this thread.

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Originally Posted by JackDaniels

For the record, I just want to get this straight because some people who play online games seem to get really... perterbed when I don't play or act the way "i should be". I'm not going to be formal or polite, and i'm not going to not do something just because someone else doesn't want me to.

The polite way for you Zander to have dealt with that situation would have been to take my unsolicited advice and either ignore it, or reply with a simple "oh i know, i'm only doing a few crafts as carpenter and didn't bother to change". But instead you started attacking me, I believe you were going on for ten minutes in /say calling me a noob and whatever else including derogatory remarks about my sexual orientation. Then you went out of your way to come into the other room and emote all over me in your dodore doublet after I had blacklisted you.

So not only am I hesitant now to talk to strangers (people like you are destroying the social aspect between strangers in mmorpgs), but I have a severe disdain for elitists such as yourself. You sir leave a very bad taste in my mouth, and I'm not the only one who's blacklisted you.

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Anyways not gonna feed the troll with more flame here, this is my last post. I got what i wanted from all this, that is I wanted to expose you for the kind of player you really are when you tried to present yourslef as a "really nice person" perhaps for people to take pity on you and sell you a doublet at the price you aimed for. I think Pere and the others who read this got a pretty good idea about your character. And last this "You sir leave a very bad taste in my mouth" mission accomplished.

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Originally Posted by Zander

Anyways not gonna feed the troll with more flame here, this is my last post.

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Dude you're not fooling anyone lol. Anyone with half a brain can easily tell you're full of it. And also stop putting words in my mouth I never said that I was a

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"really nice person"

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Originally Posted by Peregrine

I'd do the same to you. Players like you are annoying. It permeates your personality. You go around looking for pet peeves, then in total ignorance you chirp at people you have no business confronting. In your head you're god's gift to the masses and inexperienced, blessed are those who take and heed the words of JackDaniels.

In our heads you just annoy the **** out of us.

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Its funny because you don't actually realise how much of a tool you sound like right now.

EDIT: You both know you are wrong but you keep slandering me to make my arguement less credible. That's called ad-homonym attacks. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem A common troll tool.

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Originally Posted by Peregrine

I'd do the same to you. Players like you are annoying. It permeates your personality. You go around looking for pet peeves, then in total ignorance you chirp at people you have no business confronting. In your head you're god's gift to the masses and inexperienced, blessed are those who take and heed the words of JackDaniels.

In our heads you just annoy the **** out of us.

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and likes to go to other sever forum sections to be the voice of reason and scold them for their sever drama. Guy just needs to zip it and deal with his own drama. I don't know why you stretch yourself so thin! You're gonna wear yourself out, man.

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Originally Posted by JackDaniels

WOW FFS you tools really have nothing better to do with your lives do you.

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Go ahead. Blindly attack me for having three R50s. Do it. Make.... my day.

I hate to be a stickler but eorzeapedia is a dump of a website. People can hate me all they want. If someone begins a debate, or brings a different opinion then the masses have on that site you get banned or deleted.

On another note.

DIPSET!

How exactly do you gather I am this kind of person?

Are you mental? I literally am laughing out loud right now. You have GOT to be kidding me!

Honestly? ....honestly?

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Originally Posted by JackDaniels

You are an american who supports the illegal war on muslims

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Oh lordy, do you really believe that the rest of us are the problem, not you? After that bunch of histrionic soapbox nonsense?
Hint: It's you.

Dude you deleted me off of facebook because I told you to go worship your Bush shrine when you went ape-crap about a comment I left about your sickening support our troops status comment. I'm not fabricating this. Hey peregrine, your wang is showing ;)

i dun like the hating on the the troops comments, i am in the army, i may not agree with everything my country does, but i will back it up to my life, just cause ur being attacked and attacking dun mean u gotta hate jack

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Originally Posted by JackDaniels

I'd like to purchase a Dodore doublet for 10m (anything more is a rip off).

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That, right there in parentheses, is why everyone finds you annoying. You did it here. You did it to zander. You do it on forums that don't concern you it sounds like.

Mind. Your. Business.