Hi guys.
Actually we are doing A3S (and defeated yesterday :D) with 2 war. Ive see a lot of WAR parses but being OT. So my question is: what should be the DPS from WAR maintanking?
Thank you!
Alexander 3 Savage Warrior MainTank DPS
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09-15-2015, 05:03 AMTelperyonAlexander 3 Savage Warrior MainTank DPS
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09-15-2015, 05:25 AMSeraviEdalborez
Worry about DPS when you actually wipe to hard enrage or a DPS check.
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09-15-2015, 05:45 AMSleighHmm? He's already beaten the encounter and just wants to see if he or his WAR comrade can improve their DPS. Is that so wrong, trying to better yourself even after you have enough DPS to clear an encounter?Quote:
Originally Posted by SeraviEdalborez
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09-15-2015, 06:05 AMKingOfAbyssYou cleared the encounter. Shouldn't that be a rewarding experience all in itself instead of numbers?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sleigh
Man, I miss the time when everyone in mumble would shout Yeahh!!!! After making it out alive and complete a hard mission, oh the satisfaction.. no one were using parsers.. -
09-15-2015, 07:04 AMArdorGreypfft, yeah, who cares about taking pride in your gameplay? You should just blindly mash buttons and hope you come out on top, that's the true spirit of fun! All these "new school" tanks are out of touch, tanks shouldn't even be worried about doing damage. Just try to stay alive while using abilities in no coherent manner and wait for the dps to win the fight by doing the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by KingOfAbyss
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09-15-2015, 07:13 AMTelperyon
Well, a tank MUST do DPS too. Its stupid to think that only the DPS must do dps. Even the healers must do to beat savage modes of the raid.
BTW, nobody told me a number xD -
09-15-2015, 07:21 AMKingOfAbyssSome do like the Chaos of a good fight! ^^Quote:
Originally Posted by ArdorGrey
Still, if you clear Savage, You will of course have made it to the top, and not only by mashing buttons ;) (but you would still have cleared it, kudos!)
Tank needs to DPS, Healers need to DPS: so DPS needs to Tank and heal? <-- food for thought.
Sad that SE went that way, making the Trinity tweaks, but it's because some peeps asked for it, and they listened to them.
if it was a nice touch to DPS while Healing or Tanking but not required, things would be different.
At least for me:
Tank must hold aggro first, then DPS/Heal
Healers must Heal first, then DPS.
DPS must DPS first, then use their buff skills to complete the charm.
And some like to see their numbers, I don't have anything against that. What I'm against it's that the DF or PF is already hard as it is with their requirements; put numbers and then you'll be kicked if you're not doing 1000 DPS, but 999..
I pay to have fun, I can clear just like the other ones given the same equipment, and lots of peeps like me.
I like to raid and of course it's another notch than the normal dungeons.
Some like to think they are the 1st DPS, good for them. I love to enjoy it with a group, and so far, we manage to clear them.
To each their own, but I doubt SE's stance will change on that. -
09-15-2015, 07:59 AMAnimaS
the answer is whatever you did.
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09-15-2015, 08:00 AMAnimaSdid you swap to deliverance to fellcleave, just curious edit; i mean use Fell Cleaves instead of inner beasts; sounds risky but i dont know the fightQuote:
Originally Posted by Telperyon
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09-15-2015, 08:10 AMAnimaSIf you have a level 60 warrior you clearly have no idea how to use it if you think button mashing was involved. I'm sure Holmgang Vengeance Inner Beast TOB Equilibrium etc (everything) was used in a timely matter oh and new RAIDS with immense dps check force us to CHANGE.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArdorGrey
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09-15-2015, 08:29 AMArdorGreyQuote:
Originally Posted by AnimaS
....uhhh.
Really?
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09-15-2015, 08:39 AMArdorGreyWell I thank you for the level headed response to what was admittedly a trollish riposte, but I don't think tc was in any way saying that he's a dps first. He did explicitly say that he was MT. Figuring out how to squeeze the most damage out of your class while maintaining your tanking responsibilities is really admirable though. It just aggravates me to see any post about warriors trying to push dps *while maintaining their tanking responsibilities* being demonized as irresponsible while the forum simultaneously says things about how war has it so easy and can just dps away without sacrificing anything and paladin and even drk needs to do more damage without giving anything else up.Quote:
Originally Posted by KingOfAbyss
It's like which is it folks: do warriors just have it super easy, or are we super irresponsible? Because it can't logically be both at the same time. Or are you just looking for someone to lynch to vent your frustrations, and war is the obvious choice atm?
Idk. I probably just spend way too much time on these forums lol. -
09-15-2015, 09:36 AMAnimaS
WAR is the hardest tank too dude. IN MY OPINION and i love it. Yea I said before did ya sac any inner beasts to fell cleaves; however people KNEW it was not easy in 2nd Coil and now the versatility is becoming noticed MORE. I've been main war since 2nd coil was released NO it's not an obvious choice cause most of the old Paladins from coil have no idea how to even use it
if you'd like you can go tell everyone (through they KNOW it already) that each Fell Cleave as MT is saccing a20% cooldown; and explain everything go ahead I dont think people here are that stupid. -
09-15-2015, 12:28 PMrepoe
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...wsLaoo/pubhtml
not sure why people cant just respond to a simple question- hope this helps
981-1052 from the top 5 uploaders on the above database -
09-15-2015, 01:24 PMSpookyGhostThose are highly likely OT parses, OP's specifically asking for MT DPS.Quote:
Originally Posted by repoe
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09-15-2015, 03:00 PMSandamar
Havent killed yet we are hitting enrage since 2 days. We miss 3 ish percent but its more linked to the fact that We are not having a perfect run atm.
I play war and i am MT my dps Is between 710-750 i could pull more but it seems my healer are not confortable if i do the first 2 stacks in deliverance So anytime i am tanking in last phase i am in defiance i will drop it when less misstake will be made By the dps
I enter tornado phase with 900+ -
09-15-2015, 03:21 PMSandamar
Although i swaped from pld to war during a3s progression So my only eso gear for war Is the axe
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09-15-2015, 09:45 PMGangaloohttp://www.fflogs.com/rankings/7#cla...arrior&boss=20Quote:
Originally Posted by Telperyon
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09-16-2015, 07:07 PMTelperyon
Thank you for your answers, but the datalog ure posting is probably for ot WARs.
Well yesterday I did 854,2 as MT with some problems in the debuffs and ++ -- (was pulled to the water, loosing a big amount of DPS). I think i can still improve -
09-17-2015, 01:04 AMGangalooGo to the link I posted. You can find MT WARs on there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Telperyon
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09-17-2015, 05:25 AMTelperyon
How do you know if it is mt or ot?
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09-17-2015, 06:09 AMGangalooPick a parse. Go to Replay. Watch what they do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Telperyon
The Replay feature's pretty awesome. You can even select the WAR to see what skills he's using. -
09-17-2015, 07:46 AMTelperyon
waoo didnt know that, Ty!