The players(collectively) have an enrage timer.

Despite it being a obvious money grab, I also like to think the weekly lockouts/caps also serve as a collective "enrage" for the whole player base. Think about it. Another week, another piece of Gordian/ Antiquated gear. As time passes by, content gradually becomes "easier". Eventually, it gets to a point where, even if a player plays their class to the bare minimum, they can clear content due to being over geared.

I know I'm not the first to describe this phenomenon, but I think this magic point should be called, "The Player Enrage Timer".

It's called overgearing content. :p

I tell you the true player enrage.

It is when the said player refuse to do specific boss mechanism in a light party dungeon where it is universally known it is their job, because they are busy doing their job, and start screaming and swearing to the point of almost crushing their computer be it PS3/PS4/PC.

I regret bringing this player to play with me even though I know him longer than most mainstream MMOs in the market.

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Originally Posted by Arabian_Wolf

I tell you the true player enrage.

It is when the said player refuse to do specific boss mechanism in a light party dungeon where it is universally known it is their job, because they are busy doing their job, and start screaming and swearing to the point of almost crushing their computer be it PS3/PS4/PC.

I regret bringing this player to play with me even though I know him longer than most mainstream MMOs in the market.

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>_> I actually have a friend like that lol It's gotten to the point where bringing him with me is holding me back from completing content, but I don't want to be a jerk and leave him out :/ Theres only so much you can do after giving advice and all that.

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Originally Posted by Obysuca

>_> I actually have a friend like that lol It's gotten to the point where bringing him with me is holding me back from completing content, but I don't want to be a jerk and leave him out :/ Theres only so much you can do after giving advice and all that.

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Then you know how I feel.

For me I just left them and started make excuses if they wanted to do something with me, playing solo now is much better, but on the plus side this guys friend is on the game and he is cool.

So yeah you > them, help them when you can but don't be extremely selfless lest they will take advantage of that even what you would call a "friend".

Player Enrage would be for those that go "If we don't clear this in two attempts, I'm quitting". Sadly, unlike boss fights, Player Enrage fluctuates, typically between 5-30 minutes.

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Originally Posted by Andevom

Player Enrage would be for those that go "If we don't clear this in two attempts, I'm quitting". Sadly, unlike boss fights, Player Enrage fluctuates, typically between 5-30 minutes.

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This is where I thought he was going with it. Even the groups that tell you to check your BS at the door invariably has that one guy who just can't take more than a couple wipes before hitting enrage.

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Originally Posted by Souljacker

This is where I thought he was going with it. Even the groups that tell you to check your BS at the door invariably has that one guy who just can't take more than a couple wipes before hitting enrage.

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Usually the person that tells people to "check their BS at the door". lol

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Originally Posted by Arabian_Wolf

I tell you the true player enrage.

It is when the said player refuse to do specific boss mechanism in a light party dungeon where it is universally known it is their job, because they are busy doing their job, and start screaming and swearing to the point of almost crushing their computer be it PS3/PS4/PC.

I regret bringing this player to play with me even though I know him longer than most mainstream MMOs in the market.

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I think people have forgotten that everyone must first understand mechanics and have high DPS output to burn a boss and ignore the incoming mechanics. They've begun to just skip straight to burning, even on first-time runs.

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Originally Posted by Amiaze

I think people have forgotten that everyone must first understand mechanics and have high DPS output to burn a boss and ignore the incoming mechanics. They've begun to just skip straight to burning, even on first-time runs.

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But there is no need to swear and scream as if the player did kill someone dear to them,

Regardless of that today we did the same boss (2nd boss in Fractal) and this friend did interact with those glass tube to summon the add.

My enrage timer was two dungeons per update.

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Originally Posted by Arabian_Wolf

But there is no need to swear and scream as if the player did kill someone dear to them,

Regardless of that today we did the same boss (2nd boss in Fractal) and this friend did interact with those glass tube to summon the add.

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Oh, no, there's never an excuse for that. It's frustrating when you die, yes, especially when it's because people chose to ignore mechanics. But I've found that parties in which people begin to swear at you are the parties that won't perform well at all. Everybody's in a bad mood because of the hostility, and they under perform.

One or two people spoiling an entire run is definitely sad. My enrage was always Scylla. People never understood that different alliance received different numbers of ice/fire balls that needed to be shared amongst the entire group.

Personally I think the 'player rage timer' is measured in wipes. Each wipe tends to bring out the worst in people, with the shorter fuses only needed a single wipe before exploding. A good run, even overgeared, doesn't set anyone off so it's hard to equate overgearing to an abstract idea as 'player rage timer'. Nor is it universally applicable. I, unlike many, will keep trying, wipe after wipe, until the party as a whole gives up because I don't believe in giving up. As such, I'm not a very good indicator of 'player rage timer'.

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After 2 or 3 wipes, if there's no sign of group improvement, I call it quits.

WoD during its prime was a great example. We'd wipe wipe wipe to each boss, and people would refuse to change their strategy or vote abandon, even when it was clear we were not going to win. It drove me crazy.

And the most "positive" people (people saying after wipe 3 with no improvement things like "We can do it!") were, ironically, often some of the main culprits of why we were wiping. I guess trying to make everyone stay blindly positive and be happy with infinite wipes helps throw negative attention off themselves.

I prefer strategizing and getting people to listen and stop wasting everyone's time to be better, personally. Motivational speeches don't do much good when people don't know what they're doing or already aren't trying and don't feel pressure to.

I don't care about the lockouts. I don't run Alex normal anymore after getting whm right side done and a couple pieces on left and doubt I'll do savage ever.

All these daily/weekly lockout certainly make me enraged

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Oh, no, there's never an excuse for that. It's frustrating when you die, yes, especially when it's because people chose to ignore mechanics. But I've found that parties in which people begin to swear at you are the parties that won't perform well at all. Everybody's in a bad mood because of the hostility, and they under perform.

One or two people spoiling an entire run is definitely sad. My enrage was always Scylla. People never understood that different alliance received different numbers of ice/fire balls that needed to be [i]shared[i] amongst the entire group.

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But when I constructively point them to the right direction they refuse especially from a so-called "friend".

For me I am free-spirited, even if a friend wanted help and I wasn't in the mood or busy doing whatever I flat out refuse to help them and the way I say it to them depending on their character, passive people I just apologize, aggressive ones I say it to them in a direct way.

Well, i have a very high enrage timer. Salty players don't bother me in the least, will likely never see them again otherwise. Hell, my main is Derpknight and the salty tears feed my "Salted Earth"
Some raids however are notorious for having salty people.

Pre-Heavensward it was definitely LAB/ST/WoD
Nowadays? Alexander. Or how i like to refer to it: Alexsalt (A1), Alex-salty(A2), Alex-saltier(A3), Alex-saltiest(A4).

Friends of mine refuse to run Alexander due to how unfriendly a large majority of people are in those raids.

You have 2 kinds of runs really, haven't found any types in between:
Type 1: Super easy, Super friendly people, doesn't matter if people are new (The group likes the bonus) and explain tactics if needed. People do their best and have fun.
Type 2: YOU'RE DOING THIS WRONG! AND THAT! AND OMGWTFSTFU U N00B! I IZ ZO MUCH BETTER THAN YOU! <--- It's safe to say this is never a smooth run, often these are the people whom are the ones messing up to boot.