500 wind crystals 400 hardsilver ore and 100 silver ore to make a stack of hardsilver nuggets. And then another 500 wind crystals another 400 hardsilver ore and 100 hardsilver nuggets just to make 1 stack hardsilver ingots. WHAT A JOKE, I highly doubt that I am going to resub when my subscription is up. SE made everything in the game a brick wall to to try and get around to get anything done in this game! The game is like a job when it should be about having FUN!
ARE YOU KIDDING ME SE! Hardsilver ingots are a JOKE!
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09-07-2015, 05:50 AMBlissaARE YOU KIDDING ME SE! Hardsilver ingots are a JOKE!
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09-07-2015, 07:15 AMShadowsun
What the hell
Are you seriously complaining about such a mundane thing? Come on.
You can farm crystals RAPIDLY and EASILY with ephemeral nodes
Hardsilver sand? By the bulk from retainers
Hardsilver Ores are the only annoying part that you have to get manually - oh my god what a thing, better unsub right away!
Please.
Why the hell do you even need a STACK of them?
Also Dragonskin maps can get you some for free, HQ too. -
09-07-2015, 09:28 AMBlissaThey should have just kept it like regular silver ingots, ore + crystals. Why the heck do you need to do it in 2 stages with a insane amount of mats just to make 1 ingot. The only thing they are doing is trying to drag out crafting to try and keep people subbed longer. And I have my rea$on$ why I want a stack of them.Quote:
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P.S. And like I said there is a brick wall behind everything you do in this game. (450 eso a week ect) All in the name of keeping people subbed longer. And its really starting to piss me off. -
09-07-2015, 10:19 AMRoth_Trailfinder
Hate to break it to ya, but that's not "dragging crafting out". That's an extra Quick Synth you have to do if you're making the Ingots en masse.
Oh, they are dragging crafting out, as you put it. The 9 Red Crafter Tokens available per week are all the proof anyone needs about that! This, the make a Nugget then make Nuggets into Ingots, is just something that applied to some metals but not all in ARR, that they apparently decided should apply to all metals in HW. That some recipes use Hardsilver Ingots and others Hardsilver Nuggets is reason enough to have the two levels, I think. Of course, they could have made it so you just made the Ingots directly, and then all the recipes would have just used the Ingots, is that your complaint? Not everything needed all the Hardsilver in an Ingot, some things needed less, I suppose.
By the way, your recipe is wrong. To make one stack of Hardsilver Ingots takes 495 Hardsilver Sand, 99 Silver Ore, 396 Hardsilver Ore, and a number of Crystals. 5 Hardsilver Sand + 1 Silver Ore to make the Hardsilver Nugget, and then 1 Nugget + 4 Hardsilver Ore to make the Hardsilver Ingot. And .. stacks go to 99, not 100. I rather wish they would go to 100, mind you. -
09-07-2015, 11:20 AMkensatsu
XD, if you cry about that, you will scream when you will see how much component you have to farm to make a two stars craft and it already got nerfed. (i think SE realy don't want everyone got these items too easy, it make the item to be more rare or limited and expensive also, it's not ARR at all, when everybody was crafting everything)
level55 to 60 craft is realy nothing...to cry about. you have a little more farm in HS than ARR for this craft. -
09-07-2015, 12:00 PMRufalusBut if the receipe needed fewer materials, then people would be making more of them and the market value $$ would be less due to abundance. There basically isn't an effortless shortcut to making big gil. Things that take more time to get the materials for are good news if you want to make gil because a lot of people won't bother and you have less competition.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blissa
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09-07-2015, 01:07 PMLemuel81
I see no issues with them o.O
The materials are easy to get, I dont see the problem. Your the one who wants a stack, soooo yeaa dont know the issue :D -
09-07-2015, 01:21 PMMikedizzy
The crafting is suppose to get more complicated or what is the point...yeah it sucks but I just look at is a more fun and more to do. If you are making stacks to sell...then you have to put the work in...if you are making stacks for yourself...why so many? That is still not as bad as Culinarian has it...it is a damn pain in the ass for us to make anything.
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09-07-2015, 08:37 PMAlphaFoxAgreed, so while she complains about the stack, I am selling em quite nicely for the time put in. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Rufalus
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09-07-2015, 09:10 PMdspguy
Even with the high volume of materials to make HS ingots, they only sell for about 10k or so on my server. That speaks volumes. It might take a lot of stuff, but it is a lot of cheap stuff.
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09-08-2015, 06:57 AMBlissaI'll give you that one, but I still don't agree with all this extra crafting to make the same product in 2.0.Quote:
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09-08-2015, 06:58 AMBlissaI am not going to tell you the reason why I want a stack. Because if I told you why everyone would be doing it and I wouldn't make any money!Quote:
Originally Posted by Lemuel81
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09-08-2015, 07:00 AMBlissaI am sure I am going to find out, I have 3 level 60 crafters and 5 level 50 and I am taking them all to 60!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikedizzy
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09-08-2015, 08:13 AMkensatsu
lol it's pretty obvious why you want a stacks, you want stacks of many component to chaining all the craft you can, yeah now it's more expensive and all, but the items you craft tend to be expensive too, so i don't understand the complain, if you have more quicksynth to do, do spiritbond 55 nidmog stuff for all you quicksynth; it will make extra gils
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09-08-2015, 08:26 AMMyrhn
I think that actually make a stack and 1 so you are making 1 more than you need. I think thats the problem