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    Blissa's Avatar
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    Blissa Whitewolf
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    ARE YOU KIDDING ME SE! Hardsilver ingots are a JOKE!

    500 wind crystals 400 hardsilver ore and 100 silver ore to make a stack of hardsilver nuggets. And then another 500 wind crystals another 400 hardsilver ore and 100 hardsilver nuggets just to make 1 stack hardsilver ingots. WHAT A JOKE, I highly doubt that I am going to resub when my subscription is up. SE made everything in the game a brick wall to to try and get around to get anything done in this game! The game is like a job when it should be about having FUN!
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    Iselia Shadowsun
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    What the hell

    Are you seriously complaining about such a mundane thing? Come on.

    You can farm crystals RAPIDLY and EASILY with ephemeral nodes
    Hardsilver sand? By the bulk from retainers
    Hardsilver Ores are the only annoying part that you have to get manually - oh my god what a thing, better unsub right away!

    Please.

    Why the hell do you even need a STACK of them?

    Also Dragonskin maps can get you some for free, HQ too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowsun View Post
    What the hell

    Are you seriously complaining about such a mundane thing? Come on.

    You can farm crystals RAPIDLY and EASILY with ephemeral nodes
    Hardsilver sand? By the bulk from retainers
    Hardsilver Ores are the only annoying part that you have to get manually - oh my god what a thing, better unsub right away!

    Please.

    Why the hell do you even need a STACK of them?

    Also Dragonskin maps can get you some for free, HQ too.
    They should have just kept it like regular silver ingots, ore + crystals. Why the heck do you need to do it in 2 stages with a insane amount of mats just to make 1 ingot. The only thing they are doing is trying to drag out crafting to try and keep people subbed longer. And I have my rea$on$ why I want a stack of them.

    P.S. And like I said there is a brick wall behind everything you do in this game. (450 eso a week ect) All in the name of keeping people subbed longer. And its really starting to piss me off.
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    Hate to break it to ya, but that's not "dragging crafting out". That's an extra Quick Synth you have to do if you're making the Ingots en masse.

    Oh, they are dragging crafting out, as you put it. The 9 Red Crafter Tokens available per week are all the proof anyone needs about that! This, the make a Nugget then make Nuggets into Ingots, is just something that applied to some metals but not all in ARR, that they apparently decided should apply to all metals in HW. That some recipes use Hardsilver Ingots and others Hardsilver Nuggets is reason enough to have the two levels, I think. Of course, they could have made it so you just made the Ingots directly, and then all the recipes would have just used the Ingots, is that your complaint? Not everything needed all the Hardsilver in an Ingot, some things needed less, I suppose.

    By the way, your recipe is wrong. To make one stack of Hardsilver Ingots takes 495 Hardsilver Sand, 99 Silver Ore, 396 Hardsilver Ore, and a number of Crystals. 5 Hardsilver Sand + 1 Silver Ore to make the Hardsilver Nugget, and then 1 Nugget + 4 Hardsilver Ore to make the Hardsilver Ingot. And .. stacks go to 99, not 100. I rather wish they would go to 100, mind you.
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    XD, if you cry about that, you will scream when you will see how much component you have to farm to make a two stars craft and it already got nerfed. (i think SE realy don't want everyone got these items too easy, it make the item to be more rare or limited and expensive also, it's not ARR at all, when everybody was crafting everything)
    level55 to 60 craft is realy nothing...to cry about. you have a little more farm in HS than ARR for this craft.
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    Lufie Newleaf
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blissa View Post
    I have my rea$on$ why I want a stack of them.
    But if the receipe needed fewer materials, then people would be making more of them and the market value $$ would be less due to abundance. There basically isn't an effortless shortcut to making big gil. Things that take more time to get the materials for are good news if you want to make gil because a lot of people won't bother and you have less competition.
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    I see no issues with them o.O

    The materials are easy to get, I dont see the problem. Your the one who wants a stack, soooo yeaa dont know the issue
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    Last edited by Lemuel81; 09-07-2015 at 01:11 PM.

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    Rain Arrows
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    The crafting is suppose to get more complicated or what is the point...yeah it sucks but I just look at is a more fun and more to do. If you are making stacks to sell...then you have to put the work in...if you are making stacks for yourself...why so many? That is still not as bad as Culinarian has it...it is a damn pain in the ass for us to make anything.
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    Playing since Beta phase 3

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    Rena Ryuugu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rufalus View Post
    B Things that take more time to get the materials for are good news if you want to make gil because a lot of people won't bother and you have less competition.
    Agreed, so while she complains about the stack, I am selling em quite nicely for the time put in.
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    Jain Farstrider
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    Even with the high volume of materials to make HS ingots, they only sell for about 10k or so on my server. That speaks volumes. It might take a lot of stuff, but it is a lot of cheap stuff.
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