DPS advice please

So my Main is White mage and Paladin is what I use to spam expert roulettes and such.

I wanted to try my hand at DPS and Smn was my closest so I got it to 60 and geared it in 170, read guides asked friends hit the dummy a bit and got 1.1k DPS and started trying Expert roulettes.

Omg this was hell, I am soo bad at Smn examples of my derp include but are not limited to, Dots > Bane > Painflare > Bane (second bane before recasting dots, pointless) Fighting without pet, constantly forgetting to drop Shadowflare list goes on.

I just get overwhelmed by trying to keep so many things going at once controlling myself and the pet and DoTs and trying to line up every single one of my buffs with Deathflare it's too much :(

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1) What other DPS could you recommend me, I would like to play Mnk but Idk if that's even harder, what about Ninja?

I was fine back in ARR but they really added a lot of juggling to classes in Heavensward and I'm struggling :(

Probably the easiest dps to pick up is brd or mch. They really do not have set rotation and do not have to juggle any stacks or cds like the other classes. Ninja doesn't have any either except using Armor Crush to extend Huton and Suiton to use Trick Attack

Typically, I see healer mains pick up the support dps's faster because they are already use to supporting the party

i just dps as sch, and barly go off cleric stance in most dungens, let the fairy heal xD, a lot of times i beat drg and mnk in aoe dmg, if there is enuf mobs to go around for my bane, try sch its really fun to jungle between heal and dps

Bard is pretty chill :) Try that out! And hang in there!

Best DPS imo is the WAR atm. High hp and defense with great burst damage and self heals. /sarcasm

Dragoon is pretty easy if you ask me. So far however that's all I leveled to 60. We have lots of keybinds however.

SMN is already a very easy DPS class. All DPS classes take a while to get used to. Hitting dummy will do very little to help you better at a class, as many interruptions will occur during a fight that will mess with your rotation. Dummy only teaches you opener and priority.

My suggestion? Stick with summoner and do more dungeon with the class, the more you fight the better you get.

I say stick with SMN. DPS has lots of stuff to press so feeling overwhelmed in the beginning is normal. You just need more practice.
I suggest keeping your pet on sic for now, and leave trying to line up your buffs for later.

Just learn the flow of the basic rotation and feel of the job first.

If you like the class stick with it ^^

DPSing isnt hard, it just needs practice, same as healing and tanking - youll be fine ^^

Personally I feel SMN's flow is really odd to get a hang of. Some people love it, some people hate it.

Ninja is pretty straight-forward and remain that way once they get to 60.

Blm is fun in my opinion, and it might jive more with you since you're used to White Mage and cast times. Once they get to 60, their rotations can get a little unforgiving though. I still find it fun.

Bard might be okay too. It's fairly easy to wrap your mind around. I personally find it super dull.

You also may just need more practice with SMN, it's a little weird at first from what I've experienced/seen.

Good luck!

use Shadow Flare, Miasma II, and spam Blizzard II sometimes. there's no other job can kill groups of trash mobs better than SMN right now.

To me SMN is very similar to BRD and MCH. The logic behind them is the same. You are a semi-mobile DPS class and you should try not to let your buffs or oGCD skills clip into your GCD. BRD and SMN are also similar in that you want to make sure you have dots...on everything! If you want an easy DPS I recommend BLM. Very very super very much brain dead class whose difficulty only scales with the amount of mobility required in the content you are undertaking.

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Probably the easiest dps to pick up is brd or mch. They really do not have set rotation and do not have to juggle any stacks or cds like the other classes. Ninja doesn\\'t have any either except using Armor Crush to extend Huton and Suiton to use Trick Attack

Typically, I see healer mains pick up the support dps\\'s faster because they are already use to supporting the party

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Ninja has to hit all his dots and ogcds inside Trick Attack and Dancing Edge/Hawk's Eye. There's several ways of going around it, but the opening rotation is pretty heavy to perform, especially on high latencies. Then again, high latencies - don't play NIN. Even Bards have a strict "highest damage rotation" on single targets.

Every class has "rotations" to perform; some roles are just easier to work around with it. I would personally just pick whatever class it is that you feel the most interested in.

For me in my limited experience the easiest has been Ninja...well...........

Okay, easy is not the right word because people always jump on my throat and tell me I am bad if I say anything is easy. I find it easier than BLM mainly because I, like you, have the attention span of a goldfish and lose track of timers especially with the long cast times on BLM. Buttonwise BLM is easy but if you don't have the brain for timers...which I do not...ow.

NIN seems to me (so far, my NIN is an alt character currently lvl 53 or so) to be much more fluid and forgiving. The rotation is longer but if I lose Huton I don't lose access to my hardest hitting abilities and I can get it back super quick. That feels like a wonderful thing after BLM.

When people say BLM is easy they forget that, I think... We don't have many buttons but you flub up just once you eat almost 30 seconds of horrible.

the logical dps would be blm sure agrolines(aka leylines) sucks and the flare nerf hurt but just changes the playstyle a bit its quite easy to play and alot less to remember then summoner

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Ninja has to hit all his dots and ogcds inside Trick Attack and Dancing Edge/Hawk's Eye. There's several ways of going around it, but the opening rotation is pretty heavy to perform, especially on high latencies. Then again, high latencies - don't play NIN. Even Bards have a strict "highest damage rotation" on single targets.

Every class has "rotations" to perform; some roles are just easier to work around with it. I would personally just pick whatever class it is that you feel the most interested in.

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Honestly, I never found the ninja opener hard to perform but maybe that is due to the fact I don't have high latency.
I guess I should have been clearer. While Bard and MCH do have rotations and buff rotations, as like any class, they do have much more flexibility in their rotations. SMN is like this as well but probably more so.

Since you already have SMN at 60, I'd suggest going back to around Haukke Manor and practicing some of the basics on SMN; i.e., get a feel for when you use your stack-attacks, how long each of the dots last. Get a good feel for how the basics work, and work your way up the dungeons as you get the hang of things.

Plus, you'll already have whatever gear you'd need, so going in synced should help offset any lack of skill you feel you have.

Personal opinion here but I feel out of all the jobs I've got to 60 MNK is probably the one that is the most user friendly. Positionals are probably what is most daunting about the class but it very quickly becomes second nature. On the opposite side of things MCH is a clusterfork of things you have to keep track of without much room for error and you don't even get a spiffy looking kersplosion for your troubles!. BRD is pretty easy but I find it kind of boring/slow with the cast times.

So my vote goes for MNK (the best job in the game). YEP!