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    This_is_Seager's Avatar
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    Professor Juniper
    World
    Shiva
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 60

    DPS advice please

    So my Main is White mage and Paladin is what I use to spam expert roulettes and such.

    I wanted to try my hand at DPS and Smn was my closest so I got it to 60 and geared it in 170, read guides asked friends hit the dummy a bit and got 1.1k DPS and started trying Expert roulettes.

    Omg this was hell, I am soo bad at Smn examples of my derp include but are not limited to, Dots > Bane > Painflare > Bane (second bane before recasting dots, pointless) Fighting without pet, constantly forgetting to drop Shadowflare list goes on.

    I just get overwhelmed by trying to keep so many things going at once controlling myself and the pet and DoTs and trying to line up every single one of my buffs with Deathflare it's too much

    /blogfaqs

    1) What other DPS could you recommend me, I would like to play Mnk but Idk if that's even harder, what about Ninja?

    I was fine back in ARR but they really added a lot of juggling to classes in Heavensward and I'm struggling
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    zcrash970's Avatar
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    Character
    Quinton Lightblaze
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 90
    Probably the easiest dps to pick up is brd or mch. They really do not have set rotation and do not have to juggle any stacks or cds like the other classes. Ninja doesn't have any either except using Armor Crush to extend Huton and Suiton to use Trick Attack

    Typically, I see healer mains pick up the support dps's faster because they are already use to supporting the party
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    Last edited by zcrash970; 09-02-2015 at 08:44 AM.

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    ShaneDawn's Avatar
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    Shannon Dawn
    World
    Moogle
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by zcrash970 View Post
    Probably the easiest dps to pick up is brd or mch. They really do not have set rotation and do not have to juggle any stacks or cds like the other classes. Ninja doesn\\'t have any either except using Armor Crush to extend Huton and Suiton to use Trick Attack

    Typically, I see healer mains pick up the support dps\\'s faster because they are already use to supporting the party
    Ninja has to hit all his dots and ogcds inside Trick Attack and Dancing Edge/Hawk's Eye. There's several ways of going around it, but the opening rotation is pretty heavy to perform, especially on high latencies. Then again, high latencies - don't play NIN. Even Bards have a strict "highest damage rotation" on single targets.

    Every class has "rotations" to perform; some roles are just easier to work around with it. I would personally just pick whatever class it is that you feel the most interested in.
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    zcrash970's Avatar
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    Quinton Lightblaze
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    Behemoth
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ShaneDawn View Post
    Ninja has to hit all his dots and ogcds inside Trick Attack and Dancing Edge/Hawk's Eye. There's several ways of going around it, but the opening rotation is pretty heavy to perform, especially on high latencies. Then again, high latencies - don't play NIN. Even Bards have a strict "highest damage rotation" on single targets.

    Every class has "rotations" to perform; some roles are just easier to work around with it. I would personally just pick whatever class it is that you feel the most interested in.
    Honestly, I never found the ninja opener hard to perform but maybe that is due to the fact I don't have high latency.
    I guess I should have been clearer. While Bard and MCH do have rotations and buff rotations, as like any class, they do have much more flexibility in their rotations. SMN is like this as well but probably more so.
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    starLivitation's Avatar
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    Starfish Melody
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    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 80
    i just dps as sch, and barly go off cleric stance in most dungens, let the fairy heal xD, a lot of times i beat drg and mnk in aoe dmg, if there is enuf mobs to go around for my bane, try sch its really fun to jungle between heal and dps
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    Savvy Selbina
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 62
    Bard is pretty chill Try that out! And hang in there!
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    Blackiron Tarkus
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 90
    Best DPS imo is the WAR atm. High hp and defense with great burst damage and self heals. /sarcasm
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    Character
    Kalorea Redtail
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    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 90
    Dragoon is pretty easy if you ask me. So far however that's all I leveled to 60. We have lots of keybinds however.
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    Player DawnSolaria's Avatar
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    Character
    Dawn Solaria
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    Mateus
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 80
    SMN is already a very easy DPS class. All DPS classes take a while to get used to. Hitting dummy will do very little to help you better at a class, as many interruptions will occur during a fight that will mess with your rotation. Dummy only teaches you opener and priority.

    My suggestion? Stick with summoner and do more dungeon with the class, the more you fight the better you get.
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    Character
    Cesan Duff
    World
    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 90
    I say stick with SMN. DPS has lots of stuff to press so feeling overwhelmed in the beginning is normal. You just need more practice.
    I suggest keeping your pet on sic for now, and leave trying to line up your buffs for later.

    Just learn the flow of the basic rotation and feel of the job first.
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