Dark Knight Animations

Hello, I'm here today to mention and purpose a tweak sort of speak to the animation of dark knight. as of right now the animations are slow and somewhat bulky. when doing an weapon-skill it is slow and if required to move the character slides as if to magically move without moving. it is very discouraging to me seeing this i get into the game while i play personally and when this happens i say to myself, "well there it goes again slide to the left... slide to the right...." now let me be clear the animation themselves are really cool and they look powerful and i understand that the character is caring a big sword and i do see this same sliding with other jobs, but i feel that dark knight is more prevalent than the other, bard coming in second when doing wind-bite. anyways, i do feel doing this can be an improvement it makes it seem less clunky imo. but i'll leave it at that.

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I really feel like people are digging at the bottom of the barrel to find something to complain about ...

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Originally Posted by Yhoiryo

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I really feel like people are digging at the bottom of the barrel to find something to complain about ...

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What is this bottom you speak of?

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Originally Posted by Yhoiryo

I really feel like people are digging at the bottom of the barrel to find something to complain about ...

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Skating during Unleash looks horrid and is overtly apparent - largely because you almost always use the skill while moving. Painfully reminiscent of Quake 2 multiplayer. The OP has a valid compliant - don't be so dismissive.

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Originally Posted by Amberyl

Skating during Unleash looks horrid and is overtly apparent - largely because you almost always use the skill while moving. Painfully reminiscent of Quake 2 multiplayer. The OP has a valid compliant - don't be so dismissive.

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Unless people want animation locks to return or have less impressive animations for the sake of being on the move, this is the best we're gonna get.

Unleash could just explode in Darkness. Instead of covering the ground's ground plates.

The easy solution is to just speed up the animations.

Skating Unleash is indeed one of the worst parts of playing DRK, although this happens with every melee job. For example on the PLD, there's the Skating Rage of Halone, and the Skating Riot Blade. Personally, I'm willing to accept these defects for actually having these animations; it is worlds better than certain other games where attack animations only has two or so variations for all skills together.

Back in WoW I had no time and no interest in watching character animations, one of the main reasons was because of the very limited variations available. But in FFXIV I often find myself enjoying these combat animations.

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Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh

Unless people want animation locks to return or have less impressive animations for the sake of being on the move, this is the best we're gonna get.

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No, it really isn't.

You stick your damn sword in the ground. In. The. Ground. Like in the King Arthur legend. And then randomly slide around the map as though you were suddenly strong enough to move the earth itself, rather than go through the effort of shuffling your feet across it.

It's a dumb animation. An inherently poor design choice, made by someone who obviously never actually plays the game. Or they'd know tanks move when pulling aggro. Constantly.

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Originally Posted by Zfz

Skating Unleash is indeed one of the worst parts of playing DRK, although this happens with every melee job. For example on the PLD, there's the Skating Rage of Halone, and the Skating Riot Blade.

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Neither involve you plunging a solid metal object into the ground, and then floating around as though it were a spoon moving through yoghurt.

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Originally Posted by Amberyl

Stuff.

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Very debatable. I think it's awesome. I don't sweat the small stuff like this.

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Originally Posted by FallenArisen0990

Very debatable. I think it's awesome. I don't sweat the small stuff like this.

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I'd say it was debatable on something like Halone, indeed. I don't notice it, and main a loladin. But on Unleash? No. The animation itself creates the expectation of a fixed point. It's just poor, poor design.

http://www.wired.com/wp-content/uplo...tdkr_fight.jpg

"I can't help being bulky, I'm a real man."

I just want some more NOISE. I swear for a class wielding arguably the largest weapon in the game and summoning the inner rage as power we are as quiet as a newborn baby.

...Really? All that Unleash spam is NOT noisy to you?

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Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh

...Really? All that Unleash spam is NOT noisy to you?

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Unleash sure but the rotations are so silent it's almost disturbing.

Blood Sword + Blood Price (or whatever it's called)=makes me hate the sound effect of recovering MP.

The skating effect is real and I don't like it. The problem can be solved by acceleration that animation. It is too slow thus the skating effect lasts a while and it's quite visually annoying. By speeding it up it will be less visible.

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Originally Posted by Amberyl

Skating during Unleash looks horrid and is overtly apparent - largely because you almost always use the skill while moving. Painfully reminiscent of Quake 2 multiplayer. The OP has a valid compliant - don't be so dismissive.

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Skating looks horrid for every job. It's the one thing that really breaks the connection I have with my (and other's) character.

I wonder why it is so hard for them to not have that happen. Only one thing comes to mind: PS3 limitations. :P

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Originally Posted by CrimsonThunder

I just want some more NOISE. I swear for a class wielding arguably the largest weapon in the game and summoning the inner rage as power we are as quiet as a newborn baby.

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At least it's not MCH bad.

Both could use some audio work.

The skating is a by product of customers feedback. Animations were significantly dumbed down so you players could move while the animations went off. Very many players complained that it was reminiscent of 1.0 lancer where all animations were the same. So they put more into it. Then players complained that the skating was too strong, so they made animations so fast that, I personally couldn't tell what the character was doing. They slowed it down a bit to get what we have, a little bit of skating and some more unique animations. I would rather keep it how it is, instead of what they had previously, where the special animation was the same wave of the hand and different visual meant different abilities.

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Originally Posted by ErnestoGiovanni

The skating is a by product of customers feedback. Animations were significantly dumbed down so you players could move while the animations went off. Very many players complained that it was reminiscent of 1.0 lancer where all animations were the same. So they put more into it. Then players complained that the skating was too strong, so they made animations so fast that, I personally couldn't tell what the character was doing. They slowed it down a bit to get what we have, a little bit of skating and some more unique animations. I would rather keep it how it is, instead of what they had previously, where the special animation was the same wave of the hand and different visual meant different abilities.

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We didn't ask to revert back to 1.0 system just to make the problem less visible at certain animation which are very slow and last quite a bit thus you keep skating on the floor for quite a while.

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Originally Posted by FallenArisen0990

The easy solution is to just speed up the animations.

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This is what they did with Warrior's animations from 1.23 to 2.0. Yet now they did the sluggish moves for Dark Knight. I liked the old warrior's animation speed more, looked more powerful and authentic. I mean, those axes must weigh about the same as the greatswords... Why are Warriors capable to move them like they weigh almost nothing?

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Originally Posted by Ayamia

I mean, those axes must weigh about the same as the greatswords...

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Funny you mention this.

Real "medieval" great swords typically weighed less than 8 lbs, many of them far lighter.

Double-bladed "battleaxes" like most of the WAR weapons, though? They typically weighed at least as much, but were generally terribly balanced or less effective than other, similar weaponry, and were thus not used for warfare. Consider this: what practical use is two symmetrical blades on an axe over a single blade? None. In fact, dual-faced axes tended to have an axe head on one side, and another weapon head on the other, such as a hammer or spike (or both). Due to its ineffectiveness, the historical double-bladed "battleaxe" was actually symbolic or ceremonial. Their use in combat is very much fantasy.

As is this game. So, if WARs really were to swing around gigantic, double-bladed axes, then they would, indeed, need to be much heavier than great swords merely due to the size difference. Even if they were weighted similarly, wielding a double-bladed battleaxe would result in heavier swings due to the weapon being extremely top heavy. Their single-bladed axes, however, could be even lighter than most of the great swords available in the game.

But...that's enough of a history lesson. Just thought I'd share some interesting facts.