The point of this thread isn't to start a flame war or to upset anyone. This is just a simple poll asking if you feel that players should or should not get the option to change their allegiance to another Grand Company after pledging themselves to one. I'm mainly curious to see how many people feel about having such options open to them. Feel free to post and discuss your thoughts.
http://www.easypolls.net/poll.html?p...e2b0e4c069c49d
Changing a Grand Company
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10-06-2011, 04:00 PMGospelChanging a Grand Company
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10-06-2011, 04:02 PMTravesty
Voted yes for at least once.
They should make it similar to changing nations in FFXI. -
10-06-2011, 04:21 PMGramul
Only if it grants you defector status and makes you a viable target for people belonging to the Grand Company you abandoned allowing them to hunt you down like the dog you are and strip you of your experience, belongings, and gold.
You traitor. -
10-06-2011, 05:35 PMChardrizard
Only if they wipes record from your previous company as if nothing were ever there.
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10-06-2011, 05:44 PMShneibel
major said no so far and I vote "no" as well, I might change my mind later if the companies dont have equal gear after join mean if for example Maelstrom have lvl 40 axe then other companies need to have the same. The idea might sound nonsense but I support the idea player join a companies because they like and not because of better reward or gear and still be able to pt together for quest and not only from Uldah in order to join the pt
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10-06-2011, 07:19 PMAndrewN
Christ, can't people make their links actual links? I know clicking on a button is difficult but the reward makes the effort worth while.
As for the question: No. Why would you want to? -
10-06-2011, 07:31 PMSeirra_Lanzce
I thought they will let us change in the future :|
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10-06-2011, 09:08 PMEsk
If They sort out Gear So it matches a city state's Guilds ... Or so we can get R50 gear for all classes/Jobs even if its sub par to Boss loot.. Then there should never be an option to change imo.
If hey don't well Meh, S**** em, Cos that is just plain Stupid Dev work..
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10-06-2011, 09:43 PMDelsus
I think they should leave it as is is for now, but later when we have all or most ranks they should allow a one time change incase another company has loot you want at higher ranks.
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10-07-2011, 01:14 AMGospelFixed, Sorry for the dud link.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndrewN
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10-07-2011, 01:20 AMShadowedgeThis made me laugh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gramul
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10-07-2011, 01:56 AMSilvertearRenI'd ask you the question in reverse. Why CANT/SHOULDNT we be allowed to change companies?Quote:
Originally Posted by AndrewN
Do you have an answer to that? -
10-07-2011, 01:58 AMSilvertearRenMY LIFE FOR ISHGARD! *runs off to backstab all three Grand Companies*Quote:
Originally Posted by Gramul
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10-07-2011, 02:00 AMIsanienChoice is always a good thing. I vote yes!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Gospel
Also, you should be allowed to change your home nations. I don't understand the focus on binding you to one place forever. -
10-07-2011, 02:03 AMKayokaneWe Can't/Shouldn't be able to because the other Grand Companies would also know you as a person who defected from the other, or they would think you're a spy.Quote:
Originally Posted by SilvertearRen
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10-07-2011, 02:08 AMDavorokBecause you swore an oath of allegiance to said Comapny.Quote:
Originally Posted by SilvertearRen
What good is your word if you change it on a whim? How can any Grand Company trust your allegiance to their organization and their cause if you are so easily swayed simply based on the Rewards you are given?
If I were the Commander of any of the Companies, I would not allow you to join my ranks because you show no sense of honor and your oath means nothing.
How's that for an answer? ;>P (I am not attacking you Ren. Just using "you" in a general sense.) -
10-07-2011, 02:13 AMSilvertearRenAnd what about the REAL reason for the Grand Companies? :p They're to stop the Empire, yus? It shouldn't matter whose loyalties lies where, as long as his blade is raised against ze empire.Quote:
Originally Posted by Davorok
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10-07-2011, 02:19 AMMolly_Millions
Immortal Flames 'til I die! (and maybe even after that. hehe)
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10-07-2011, 03:58 AMAntanias
If not the ability to change companies, maybe allow players to buy items from the other GCs for a higher price once we get additional ranks.
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10-07-2011, 04:02 AMCycloptichornIt's so you can't do quests for your company, get the rewards, buy stuff, then quit and join another one - do their quests, get their rewards, et cetera.Quote:
Originally Posted by SilvertearRen
And it makes sense story-wise; once you're in, you're in. -
10-07-2011, 04:17 AMRinsuiPossibly the best solution. You win.Quote:
If not the ability to change companies, maybe allow players to buy items from the other GCs for a higher price once we get additional ranks.
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10-07-2011, 04:32 AMJinko
Give the option to those who want it i guess but you should lose all achievements and seals if you do so.
Thats being said I don't see any reason to change right now, unless they really screw us over gear which is yet to be seen. -
10-07-2011, 05:00 AMKaizlu
Just voted, seems that players like loyalty :)
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10-07-2011, 05:41 AMInaaca
The game makes it VERY clear that joining a company is a major, permanent choice. If I could change companies later after that huge ordeal, I think my sense of loyalty would take a big hit.
Not being able to change gives the choice significance. Consider well and choose wisely. Have pride in who you're siding with. -
10-07-2011, 05:51 AMDeadRiser
It's already set in stone that you can't change your nation. That's why they made you do 3 missions and watch the inauguration of each Grand Company before you choose one. They even made you check of a box then press accept. I think it's pretty much set in stone. So NO, you can't change.
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10-07-2011, 06:06 AMKaiKatzchen
I believe SE said they would allow you to change companies later... and I am split on the question.
One side I think no because you should be bound to the company you choose. It's a question or loyalty, could someone honestly trust another person who defected from one group to another. Will they do it again and betray this new group too? Are they a spy, could someone really trust them with any type of information?
On the flip side, it is just a game and some might want to experience all the story lines. Just like someone want to switch Cities so they can do the story lines for the other two cities. I know I started in Ul'dah and now I wish I had started in Grid, because I enjoy the story line better and I would love to switch home cities.
Edit: Oh that's what it was... they said it don't mean you won't be able to switch later and they mentioned Free Companies...
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- It doesn't mean you can't switch (grand company) later on, later we are looking to adding "Free Company" where you can join optionally
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10-07-2011, 06:26 AMGospel
To add some flavor to this topic, here is some food for thought if you are worried about spies from allied nations. Cid was once faithful to Garlemald, but after certain events that took part in the past. Cid felt that the best course of action was to defect from his own nation because in the end he knew it would only get worst.
So I ask you. Would you or would you not trust this man, given that he could potentially be a spy for his nation? Also if your nation were to follow a similar path or take a course of action that would not agree with your morals or views. Would you do the same? Or would stay the course? -
10-07-2011, 08:45 AMEndemerrin
Everybody makes mistakes. Personally, I think it's a bit harsh to permanently stick some one in a GC. There should be some way to get out at least once, even if it is a painstakingly difficult thing to do.
People's minds change. You might join a GC thinking it's right for you, only to find out it's not once you're finally in. I'm content with my choice, but I know plenty of people who thought they knew what they wanted, but in the end found out it wasn't what they expected at all.
Arguably, there isn't a lot of content out yet for people to make concrete decisions, but regardless of that I think players should be allowed one chance to correct any mistakes. -
10-07-2011, 08:51 AMOscillate_Wildly
I don't know how I'd like to experience the war quite yet so I haven't decided. I'm adverse to choosing now in case Limsa, as awesome as it sounded in the speech, turns out to have the absolute worse CS's and storyline attached. So while personal chocobos are nice I'll sacrifice a little leg work until further information comes out. It is indeed something I look forward to, the CS's, and to join now because of some artificial loyalty everyone seems to feel, or the necessity to own a chocobo seems blegh.
If I had the ability to change even once down the road I'd like the insurance that I wouldn't be stuck with the crappiest GC just because I felt the urgency to get a 'Bo. -
10-07-2011, 10:18 AMFanzeronThis. Even I you only have one chance to join another company, this still makes you a defector to your former comrades. Joining a Grand Company is the same as the Mafia: once you're in, kid, you never get out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gramul
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10-07-2011, 02:23 PMNabiri
I don't think it's a good idea to let players get stuck in a decision forever, with the only way to change that decision being deleting their character and restarting the game.
I worry all the time I may choose one I end up not being happy with.
This too. :3 It has to be fair. Can't go back and forth between them and have all your stuff/points/rank still there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chardrizard
Hmm.. it's all about items/rewards/loot for some people. I don't care which items they have. I'm worried about not liking the NPCs, cutscenes, story... lol I don't want to pick one and then later find out.. "Wow, I really don't like the leader of this company.. Now I'm stuck here forever... Damn." -
10-07-2011, 03:11 PMNabiri
I keep hearing about these speeches or something before entering into a Grand Company.. Could someone tell me the names of the quests for these please? Can you watch all 3 before deciding? I'm lacking some info here, and confusing some things. I'm sure it's in the patch notes or something, but I'd rather ask someone who has experienced it, than guess. X3
Thanks in advance! -
10-07-2011, 04:14 PMEvil-Siren
hmm ya I wish you could change GC at least once (with or without penalty, I don't care =P)
Now that I joined Grids GC (cuz it was my starting city), I wonder if if wasn't better to join Uldahs, because my main class is Pug and nearly all of my LS friends joined this company too =/
oh well... >__< -
11-02-2011, 03:02 PMSmokeyTheSequel
I was thinking this exact same thing. But I figured what was the point. I made my decision and now im stuck with it. At least thats what I thought until I read this. If being able to teleport around your own city is something that might be possible. I would really like to switch because all my crafting is in another city than the grand company im located in and I would like to have that option.
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...o-Limsa./page8
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This is a follow up post to my last post regarding the use of chocobo whistles within the city.
This post has taken a while for us to prepare because we are also looking into a warp feature within the city-state of your Grand Company as a type of Grand Company reward.
What has made this a bit difficult is the fact that these features have a lot of overlap, so we decided that we will work towards implementing these features with some adjustments.
•Moving around within the city-state of your Grand Company: Introduce a warp feature as a Grand Company reward.
*We will also look into implementation for use in other city-states
However, the warp feature for other cities will be different from that in your own city.
•Allow players the option to ride their chocobo out from the chocobo stable
*This is in response to players wishing to be able to watch the cool chocobo cutscene again
These features are planned to be implemented sometime after patch 1.20, but we will let you know if there are any updates.
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I hope im not misunderstanding this but I thought I would put it out there. -
11-02-2011, 03:10 PMDalmore
Well yoshi said dont choose based on gear they have now... meaning they will prolly update so u can get soemthing for all jobs OR since that gear isnt very god anywasy everything else put into GC loot will be for other stuff and not gear i dont like the fact u can get lvl 50 gear from GC anyways
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11-02-2011, 03:17 PMRedAffinity
In FFXI, your allegiance after endgame really didn't matter all that much.
In FFXIV, i don't know how important/large the role of GC's will play out. Since they're changing maps and areas, story and quests, I think it'd be fair to give current player accounts a second opportunity to choose once more. I really really hope they keep this in mind.
I support a 1 time change. -
11-02-2011, 03:30 PMTheVedis
In the long run, dont put it pastr them to allow the changing of country of allegience and grand company
they did it in 11(and not from the start, it got added later) so expect it here eventualy too(just not anytime soon) -
11-02-2011, 06:06 PMLebannen
Only reason we would need this is if they didnt implement free companies.