Actual Alexander Savage tank DPS numbers

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...sLaoo/pubhtml#

Highest DPS for A1S:
WAR 929.28
DRK 672.52
PLD 720.71

Kind of odd DRK's so low on this fight but I'm guessing none of the prases have OT DRKs for phase 1.

Highest DPS for A2S:
WAR 1281.67
PLD 808.36
DRK 1020.15

PLD AoE is very bad.

Highest DPS for A3S:
WAR 931.93
PLD 755.90
DRK 776.65

warrior leading the pack again.

Highest DPS for A4S:

who knows only two FCs have beat that crazy fight.

https://youtu.be/O4sl4dZ9JNg?t=83

lmao

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Originally Posted by SpookyGhost

https://youtu.be/O4sl4dZ9JNg?t=83

lmao

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Yeah, king's exceptional performance due to his party playing it safe does make the A1S numbers kind of skewed.

No excuse for A2S and A3S tho. (esp not a2s)

That A1S number for DRK so low, I pull around 850 to 890 as DRK

its probaly because these drks mted first phase.

that war pulling over 900 is no suprise when he stays in dps stance nearly 90% the time tough. not hard. just need cooldown managed and VERY good healers. i usally go back to tankstance for busters to play it safe. will give this a try myself once we outgear the fight a bit more.

I MT first phase, I am only ever in Grit stance after my first power slash, and before preys on one of the jumps, everything else is off Grit

Jayjohn is correct in saying that the DRK numbers are actually pretty low. I was the one that posted that 672.52, and I only really posted it because a buddy of mine notified me that my parse from 2 weeks ago was higher than the other DRKs on that spreadsheet, and that I should add my parse to the list as well.

I immediately regretted posting that parse because it really is not indicative of what DRKs can do DPS wise. That parse was with all 3 jumps, no slashing debuff, or any raid utility from our NIN (besides the beginning where we're all fighting the same mob). In addition, the fight itself was not a very smooth one. I'm hoping to update it with a more accurate example of DRK DPS in the future.

PLD dps in A1s is OT number or MT? weird for a PLD to OT though.

Yeah, I don't understand the DRK number. Do ALL of these parses have a Warrior as the offtank? Even in a situation where you have PLD/DRK with no Warrior, are the DRKs MTing in all these situations?

I can see it being less than Warrior but I can't understand the DRK value being that much lower than Paladin considering a DRK MT on paper should be doing about equal DPS in DPS stance but a fair bit more in Grit.

Are these tanks staying out of tanking stance for basically everything except busters?

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Originally Posted by pandabearcat

Are these tanks staying out of tanking stance for basically everything except busters?

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Probably even cheesed through the busters in DPS stances. (Like the WAR video, the WAR mitigated the first and third busters simply by using Holmgang lol).

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Originally Posted by Buttersworth

Jayjohn is correct in saying that the DRK numbers are actually pretty low. I was the one that posted that 672.52, and I only really posted it because a buddy of mine notified me that my parse from 2 weeks ago was higher than the other DRKs on that spreadsheet, and that I should add my parse to the list as well.

I immediately regretted posting that parse because it really is not indicative of what DRKs can do DPS wise. That parse was with all 3 jumps, no slashing debuff, or any raid utility from our NIN (besides the beginning where we're all fighting the same mob). In addition, the fight itself was not a very smooth one. I'm hoping to update it with a more accurate example of DRK DPS in the future.

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If you are getting 3 jumps its going to drastically lower dps. 650-675 dps is pretty normal for a 3 jump A1S, which usually means you are looking at your damage dealer is either dying or just not doing their job properly.

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Originally Posted by Phoenicia

Probably even cheesed through the busters in DPS stances. (Like the WAR video, the WAR mitigated the first and third busters simply by using Holmgang lol).

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I'm wondering how their healers are dealing with this? Our healers are struggling to just heal through preys, so we've been tanking (aside from first part) in tanking stance exclusively. Tank dps is like maybe 600 (not including phase 1).

In regards to A1S

One of few instances where Holmgang is better than HG/Living dead because of its short 3 min CD aligning with 2/4 Possible tank busters. Can confirm stupid numbers is largely achieved by using this cheese. With how this fight works in particular, PLDs kind of have to put themselves in ShO eating 2+ GCD's of penalized-zero damage ontop of having to actually maintain aggro through their lowest pot combo.

However I can see DRK staying out of grit for the full length with SSkin, SWall, and DADMind. I havent tested it myself but that should be enough to survive the Buster without grit and in full slaying. However the full dump still makes it inferior to WAR since a WAR can have vengeance, RI and ToB+Conv for everything in the rotation outside of the tankbuster.

You would need both Dragon Kick and Apocatasis to simulate DRK level of mitigation for PLD but both in the end fall short against WAR and are much more riskier to pull off. A string of stray auto-crits into a double gunnery/fount could mean death.

Another note is that this is still a small sample size and should be taken with a grain of salt. Many of these parses are progression parses and alot of safety nets were made for the success rather than pure DPS.

Just went ahead and posted my parse for those wondering numbers for ot drk :D

773.96
http://i.imgur.com/kTayHLi.png

Drk MT A3S
http://i.imgur.com/MTBKIeR.png

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Drk MT A3S
http://i.imgur.com/MTBKIeR.png

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Oh noes! Nerf DRK! It beats WAR DPS! WAR is supposed to be the DPS tank! SE Please!

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Originally Posted by Phoenicia

Oh noes! Nerf DRK! It beats WAR DPS! WAR is supposed to be the DPS tank! SE Please!

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I know you're being sarcastic but I've called Yoshi P and told him of this blasphemous parse. He'll be reducing all of DRK's attacks to 1 potency at a 1000tp cost next Tuesday.

#PhoneYoshiP

Forgot to take SS, but last night our WAR parsed 935 on A1S and I parsed 1040 on DRK on A2S. Gonna try to see if anyone still has the parses from last night.

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Originally Posted by pandabearcat

Are these tanks staying out of tanking stance for basically everything except busters?

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In general Alexander Savage does not seem to hit the tank itself very hard. The mini tank buster for the first 4 legs of A4 is like one Flare Breath from T13 or something in terms of how fast your HP drops. The tanking stance is of course great, but there's almost nothing you can't survive in the DPS stance if you pop cooldowns.

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Originally Posted by Jayjohn

That A1S number for DRK so low, I pull around 850 to 890 as DRK

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Thats pretty high! Do you have a video up?