WAR accessories! "a little help please..."

As a former PLD since 2.0 I'm now changing to WAR in heavensward, and I'M LOVING IT!
now, we all now how fending acc are trash and I want to maximize my current war to be the very best since my group are kinda telling my that I'm not outputting as much dps as I could make. jokes on me

so question: what would be the best 150 acc set I could get and what materia should be melded on them also, I want to know if the Ilvl drops o much to the point it affects you to actually do content and or how long do you guys think this acc are gonna be reliable till the next Bis. thx before hand.

get STR lv150 accessories and meld VIT III/IV materias on all 5 possible meld slots, or get VIT ilv150 acessories and meld STR III/IV materias

parry is kinda bad for WAR, if you wanna parry lots of physical stuff you have raw intuition for guaranteed parry for 20seconds, so try to avoid fending accessories with parry

that's pretty much it. some skill speed is always nice so you can fit up to 3 fell cleaves during berserk (using vengeance/raw intuition/infuriate for abandon stacks as needed)

If you can't afford melds, you should be running at least 3 strength accessories. I run 5, but i trust my healer alot.

Make sure you redo your stat placement into STR.

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Originally Posted by aerolol

get STR lv150 accessories and meld VIT III/IV materias on all 5 possible meld slots, or get VIT ilv150 acessories and meld STR III/IV materias

parry is kinda bad for WAR, if you wanna parry lots of physical stuff you have raw intuition for guaranteed parry for 20seconds, so try to avoid fending accessories with parry

that's pretty much it. some skill speed is always nice so you can fit up to 3 fell cleaves during berserk (using vengeance/raw intuition/infuriate for abandon stacks as needed)

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Thanks a lot, now I have a little question, do you think with the upcoming 3.1 coming we are going to have new acc or this 150 are going to be sitting there for a while, also my other question, is the Ilvl drop an issue?

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Originally Posted by karateorangutang

If you can't afford melds, you should be running at least 3 strength accessories. I run 5, but i trust my healer alot.

Make sure you redo your stat placement into STR.

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then what will be the difference on running with ilvl 170-190 acc? besides more dps?

edit- ho! nvm I undertand it wrong, thx.

Neck - Slaying
Earring - Fending
Bracelet - Fending
Ring - Slaying
Ring2 - Slaying

Fendings = STR IV x4, STR III x1
Neck = VIT IV x3, VIT III x1, SS IV/III or DET IV/III x1
Rings = VIT IV x3, VIT III x1, ACC IV/III or DET IV/III x1

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Originally Posted by Ercapote

Thanks a lot, now I have a little question, do you think with the upcoming 3.1 coming we are going to have new acc or this 150 are going to be sitting there for a while, also my other question, is the Ilvl drop an issue?

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Nobody knows. The ilvl drop isn't an issue unless you fall below i170 to enter Alex NM, in which case just switch to the appropriate accessories and then switch back to i150 when you get in.

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Originally Posted by Ercapote

then what will be the difference on running with ilvl 170-190 acc? besides more dps?

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That's all. The reason you wear i150 in the first place is for the extra DPS, if all you want is more health then go pure VIT accessories.

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Originally Posted by SpookyGhost

Neck - Slaying
Earring - Fending
Bracelet - Fending
Ring - Slaying
Ring2 - Slaying

Fendings = STR IV x4, STR III x1
Neck = VIT IV x3, VIT III x1, SS IV/III or DET IV/III x1
Rings = VIT IV x3, VIT III x1, ACC IV/III or DET IV/III x1

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this helps a lot thx so much it was exactky what i was looking for.

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Originally Posted by Ercapote

then what will be the difference on running with ilvl 170-190 acc? besides more dps?

edit- ho! nvm I undertand it wrong, thx.

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All good, I think I kinda mistook your post too lol. Otherwise it's more options available for those that don't have gil resources or crafter buddies.

My assumption is that 3.1 is gonna have crafted ilv180 accessories. Maybe in 3.07 tomorrow but i kinda doubt it.

It's been like this during all 2.X patches... one patch introduces the crafts for left side gear of a certain ilvl (already happened in 3.05 for ilv180), one or two patches later they introduce crafted weapons and accessories of that ilvl.

Nonetheless, those are gonna cost A LOT if they keep the trend of having so many rare mats needed for crafting ilv180 stuff, and I don't see developers NOT doing that, unfortunately.
:<

What would be the overall melded acc costs if you were able to make them yourself? Would it be much cheaper than paying a crafter to do them for you, If so how much?

Depends on the server, availability of items to make the accessories themselves, cost of materia, and how much of it you can get for 0 gil.

Actually the reason you wear pentameld is for decent dps WHILE maintaing a ton of health.

Full STR acc is definitely more dps (it simply has more str).

But it has less full main stats (STR+VIT), so pentamelds are a better 'deal' than mixing and matching str+vit accessories.

Yep, the "optimal" setup for a tank is 35 str in bonus stats and five Slaying accessories. This is the "glass cannon" build. You're using purely the Vit you gain from your six left side items.

The problem is that this just isnt enough vitality for a lot of the harder content until you start to overgear it. As soon as you reach the point where you need to drop just one Slaying item for a Fending, you're into the realms where Pentamelded gear is going to be better. A pentameld accessory has 31 Str and 29 Vit - 60 bonus stats. An i210 fending/slaying has 49 bonus stats in either vit or str. ANY situation where you're mix/matching str and vit will always come out better running pentamelds.

Of course, there's also the fact that once you start to overgear a fight a bit, doing maximum dps in full slaying isnt -necessarily- the best option. If you can maintain great DPS but have more health than you need to make it less likely a healer being sleepy might cause a wipe, why not? Running a Pentameld set is less dps than full slaying, but still has a lot of strength and offers a really nice cushion of health. My personal view is that once you reach the point where you overgear an encounter anyway, you may as well stick to pentamelds to make the encounter "easier" unless you're specifically going for speed kills. 145 vitality and 155 strength is a really really nice combo.

I'd personally recommend 3 pentamelds and 2 slaying for Savage. @190+ it should put you at 20k, maybe a little more or less, which is all you'll need up to A4S (at which point you'll probably have enough gear to run 3 pentas and 2 slaying as well).

So using melds gives you the same amount of hp as having 2 or 3 fending acc but with more str than you would have otherwise?

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Originally Posted by VargasVermillion

So using melds gives you the same amount of hp as having 2 or 3 fending acc but with more str than you would have otherwise?

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never bothered picking up the Prototype fending accessories, but using the 180 stuff, full Pentameld is the equivalent of wearing 4 180 fending pieces. I'm sitting at 896 STR and 886 VIT with my pentamelds, 16,944 hp in Deliverance w/o party or food, 21,180 in Defiance.

To be honest even if they put i180 acc they are going to be very expansive i am not sure i would bother.
Especially since materia mêlding to Fully cap str or vit might be really tough with the rank IV and mêlding rank V Is really not an option atm.

The problem right now is that unless you're specifically outgearing the vitality requirements for an encounter such that you can wear -FULL- Slaying (not a single Fending part) then i150 pentamelds are objectively better than the current highest item level blue quality i210 accessories, by quite a way. TBH i150 pentamelds are probably going to be on par or better than even i220s, and only beaten by i230s given the rate of stat expansion. Even then it'll probably only be due to higher -secondary- stats that i230s win out.

Currently i150 pentamelded accessories are future proofing your tank gear for the NEXT tier. If they release the new crafted accessories with whichever content drops i230+ then rich tanks can ignore all right side drops/tokens. I worry how much the next set of pentamelds will cost but given how long the i150s have lasted, the next set will probably last until the NEXT expansion >_>

I'm a little bit lost here what's a PENTALMELD?

edit - ha! a little slow but got it! :p the 150acc.

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Originally Posted by Ercapote

I'm a little bit lost here what's a PENTALMELD?

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Pentameld is when you meld 5 materia onto an item. It's generally expensive because once you start to overmeld an item the percentage of success gets lower and lower. So in the case of accessories you meld str onto a vit accessory up to its cap then meld secondary stats onto it.