OK I was dubious when a friend suggested WTFast

But wow my routing to the servers must have been really shitty because it cut about 150 off my ping if the listed stats are true/correct, and even if they aren't it made a really noticeable difference.

Playing from australia on behemoth and going from ~350-400 to ~250-300 is a life saver.



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No I'm not a shill, just amazed that it actually worked.

And of course these sorts of services have mixed result, they will only do anything for you if

a) your routing to the server isn't the best it can be

and b) the routing provided by the service is better than a)

with the improvement being measured as a function of how much better b) is than a).

Are they paying you for this? They're paying you aren't they? It made zero difference for me personally. I gave it a try when I was on my original server, before I transferred to Ragnarok, since playing on a US server from the EU was really killing the connection.

I have no doubt the service works for some, but it's not a cure-all, and shouldn't be advertised as such.

Probably depends on whether there's anything to improve. From what I understand, WTFast works by routing your data traffic through less congested internet hubs. If your connection is already following the best possible route, or close to it, then using WTFast won't make a lick of difference.

It worked noticably well for my brother, due to a rather notioriously congested hub that, for some reason, an awful lot of US East Coast traffic is routed through on the way to the data center in Canada.

Unfortunately, if your connection is crappy, but all alternative connections are crappier still, WTFast isn't gonna help.

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I gave it a try when I was on my original server, before I transferred to Ragnarok, since playing on a US server from the EU was really killing the connection.

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You know Ragnarok and other "EU servers" are currently located in the same place than the NA servers, right?

I have Verizon Fios and live in Delaware. Had horrible crap lag due to routing. WTFast makes my game lag free and snappy. Works for me very very well.

When wtfast stops working in the middle of raid, I rage. I literally cannot double weave my CDs without it. The delaybon my gcd is incredible.

I'm on the west coast of Canada.

It's really sad actually.

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Are they paying you for this? They're paying you aren't they? It made zero difference for me personally. I gave it a try when I was on my original server, before I transferred to Ragnarok, since playing on a US server from the EU was really killing the connection.

I have no doubt the service works for some, but it's not a cure-all, and shouldn't be advertised as such.

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it won't do much for you from the EU because crossing the pond is pretty hefty and there's not really a lot of routing choices.

The fact that they have their servers hosted on a slow ass business cloud network with a crapton of redundancies which slows it down.

Getting the servers OUT of Quebec would help a ton for most of the players in NA, and putting them on the west coast would fix the AU problem a little bit.

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it won't do much for you from the EU

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I've been using it for the past 2 years. It does reduce the latency to some degree and it's especially noticeable when tanking and chaining skills. The game can't keep up with fast apm players (keyboard and mouse) without it. Eu data centers can't come fast enough.

I don't even know how I'd manage to play without WTFast, my mudras still clip into my GCD quite a bit, but at least I don't get bunnies, or die to AoEs I was long out of (can still happen if my internet starts acting up though).

I haven't used it personally, but I know several people who have with great results (NA).

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I have no doubt the service works for some, but it's not a cure-all, and shouldn't be advertised as such.

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it won't do much for you from the EU because crossing the pond is pretty hefty and there's not really a lot of routing choices.

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It's the difference between unplayable and playable Ninja from the EU.

I used it while I had the 30-day trial, and it gave a noticeable reduction in latency. Thanks to lack of FB, I am not able to renew the free mode and I'm not interested in paying extra for what the game should already offer (thank god for EU servers coming up).

And no, I'm not being paid by them, these things simply don't work for everyone, it could even make it worse. It's definitely worth a try though, you don't need to pay for that. Reasons WTFast has quite a poor reception on Steam and such are quite simple.
1) They exaggerate the results. That steam video is ridiculous, no one is going to get anything close to that good.
2) They offered free subs for positive reviews, calling negative reviewers trolls. Bad move.
3) People don't understand what it actually does. It's true your traffic always tries to go through the shortest route, but it is not necessarily the fastest and that's where WTFast comes in. If your routing is naturally good, WTFast doesn't really do anything useful. Publisher pays no effort whatsoever to explain what the software actually does and why it doesn't work for everyone.

AAA Internet Publishing should replace their marketing department, they clearly have no idea what they are doing.

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Originally Posted by Vurtney

I've been using it for the past 2 years. It does reduce the latency to some degree and it's especially noticeable when tanking and chaining skills. The game can't keep up with fast apm players (keyboard and mouse) without it. Eu data centers can't come fast enough.

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You're not going to get the same latency from EU that NA players will to a server located in North America. Ever.

And I agree with the need for EU servers. They're in Quebec to attempt to reduce latency for you guys, but they're in what has to be one of the shittiest centers on the east coast.


My latency from where I'm at isn't going to get much better(I get anywhere between 80 and 90 ms from California most of the time) because of the grid where I live. No amount of routing is going to fix the shitty infrastructure in my college town. The actual physical infrastructure is shoddy and they won't put the money into it to replace worn wires and stuff because of how remote we are and how small the population is.

I use the trial version of WTFast from Chile and cut like 25% of my ping (The aplication says it's aroud 150-160 MS). Is pretty notorius when i have to pop up all the bard buffs and without it, for some reason if i mash the buttons, my cast is interrupted randomly, but with WTFast this almost never happens.
So at least for me, it works.

It's not only about reducing ping, but making it stable. 114ms from Europe :D

Honestly I use the free WTFast and I notice an intense difference.

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Are they paying you for this? They're paying you aren't they? It made zero difference for me personally. I gave it a try when I was on my original server, before I transferred to Ragnarok, since playing on a US server from the EU was really killing the connection.

I have no doubt the service works for some, but it's not a cure-all, and shouldn't be advertised as such.

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I suggested WTFast to all my friends, since we are playing on EU servers.. they all got hit by plumes from time to time, even after going out of them as fast as possible..

since they use WTFast this never happened anymore.

but yeah , you are right.. there is NO cure for bad internet itself.

Using WTFast and programs like it when your playing from Australia (as I am) DOES make a difference since it often means a drop in ping from 300 - 400 down to 220 - 250ish. Maybe even less if your lucky enough to have higher speed internet. However if you are in the US and attempting to use it to get your 60 odd ping to drop lower you probably wont get any use out of it.

He tried WTFast...You won't believe what happened next..

I use pingzapper myself. It's a lot cheaper than WTFast and it doesn't renew its subscription on its own until you pay for more time. It has servers globally too.

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I use pingzapper myself. It's a lot cheaper than WTFast and it doesn't renew its subscription on its own until you pay for more time. It has servers globally too.

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I use WTFast for free, works fine and only 10-20 ping less than the paid version ($10ish a month). Although the multi routing helps ping spikes, but I don't feel that it's worth the extra $10.

I used to use WTFast, it was pretty good initially, so I paid for the premium account. But few months back it's been really bad, on a good day yeah it's good and reduce your ping, but on a bad day well the ping is either really high or you get spike all over. So I gave up on it, went and try Battleping and my ping is better than WTFast ever gave me. It's not me alone though, a few of my friends ingame have problem with WTFast as well. So yeah, if you want to try it, just use the trial and see how it goes, it may or may not help you.

Pingzapper has 30 days for $4 for starters. Always good to shop around.

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I use pingzapper myself. It's a lot cheaper than WTFast and it doesn't renew its subscription on its own until you pay for more time. It has servers globally too.

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i use it too, and it's actually better than WTFas, for me anyway.
it's like half the cost of WTFast, and less UI.
i can't really play the game, without it...there's so much skill delay, and skills getting interrupted and canceled.

Would be able to use our referrals on each other for an extra free month?

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It's not only about reducing ping, but making it stable. 114ms from Europe :D

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Woah, that's high. I get sub 100ms from the UK and that's without WTFast. It all depends on your ISP. I'm with Sky Broadband and it seems to have better routing than, say, Virgin Media. My friends on Virgin have issues every now and then with 90k errors & lag that I only see when there's a genuine server problem. They have 152Mbps cable where I'm on 12Mbps ADSL.

Most traffic from the EU travels the same backbone until it hits the US West Coast and it's there that trouble starts with some routed through the shitty systems some US people have issues with and others going direct to Montreal without the Layer3 crap.