DPS Class with the Highest Burst Damage?

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08-20-2015, 07:34 PM
EpicOreo80

DPS Class with the Highest Burst Damage?

I am not a big fan of DOTs so I would like to know which classes have really high even OP burst damage.

I am trying to decide on a DPS class for once I get my WAR to lvl 60.

I had BLM or DRG in mind but if there are any other classes that have higher burst damage I would like to know. And if you want to suggest BLM or DRG that would be fine as well.
08-20-2015, 07:40 PM
Yesui

From what I can tell, everyone seems to be saying it's dragoon. Although we do have 2 DoTs in our rotation as well, so we have good sustained DPS alongside that.
08-20-2015, 08:43 PM
Rioszz

Machinist has the highest burst in the game, but their sustained DPS isn't as good as the melee's of course.
08-20-2015, 08:47 PM
Ephier

Machinist first and Bard in second.
08-20-2015, 08:50 PM
AniCelestine

But those 2 are lowest on sustain remember that.
08-20-2015, 09:58 PM
Drakeos

SMN with Deathflare burst upto 9-10k crit :)
08-20-2015, 10:00 PM
Myon88

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Originally Posted by Ephier

Machinist first and Bard in second.

I'm pretty jealous of Bard's barrage + empyreal arrow. Wildfire is larger burst overall but it's hard not to envy that single gcd, no setup needed combo.

It's pretty neat too as it lets you do things like instagib A1S alarums without having to wait for resins and spazers.
08-20-2015, 10:08 PM
Ephier

Quote:

Originally Posted by Myon88

I'm pretty jealous of Bard's barrage + empyreal arrow. Wildfire is larger burst overall but it's hard not to envy that single gcd, no setup needed combo.

It's pretty neat too as it lets you do things like instagib A1S alarums without having to wait for resins and spazers.

Don't get me started on that instagib that they get. And they still whine about the class. BAR+EA is super strong, especially with buffs. First skill in their rotation does 6k+ guaranteed damage. Like ew.
08-20-2015, 10:48 PM
Greywolfamakir

Quote:

Originally Posted by Myon88

It's pretty neat too as it lets you do things like instagib A1S alarums without having to wait for resins and spazers.

I do it like MCH during this weekly clear with every Alarum. ilvl 190
08-20-2015, 10:52 PM
Warlyx

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Originally Posted by Ephier

Don't get me started on that instagib that they get. And they still whine about the class. BAR+EA is super strong, especially with buffs. First skill in their rotation does 6k+ guaranteed damage. Like ew.

wildfire does more dmg but needs setup and perfection or everything falls apart , is a bit unfair but talk to daddy SE , we bards arent the enemy, EA + barrage is all what we have for burst :(

@OP , Drgs can be scary too with all the CDs up , and is the best sustained , if u doubt btw blm and drg , choose DRG no doubt ,but is melee , and blm is turret caster, so if u prefer a caster go for it!
08-21-2015, 12:16 AM
Sleigh

MCH at the time of Wild Fire hitting is basically the best burst in the game. DRG, BRD, and BLM are super high up there, BLM especially if there are lucky crits since they have the opportunity to add many thousands per crit in their opener. SMN doesn't burst super amazing even if they get a couple good hits in. NIN and MNK do burst a bit but not to the extent of the above 4.

I will say I'm a bit curious on why you care so much about burst, OP. AoE capabilities are more important for dungeons, and a whole mess of other things are more important for Alexander/Savage. Is it just something you have fun with or were you interested in burst for a gameplay reason?
08-21-2015, 12:21 AM
Arkenne

DRG seems like a good option from my melee point of view, but since DRG has 2 DoTs and you hate DoTs, BLM should be for you.
BRD, MCH and SMN seems to have a few good bursts but BLM's DPS is all about burst :v (even their DoT can burst)
08-21-2015, 01:16 AM
Kuroyasha

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Originally Posted by Arkenne

DRG seems like a good option from my melee point of view, but since DRG has 2 DoTs and you hate DoTs, BLM should be for you.
BRD, MCH and SMN seems to have a few good bursts but BLM's DPS is all about burst :v (even their DoT can burst)

Feel like this needs a Xzibit meme; Ayo dawg, heard u like burst dmg, so we put burst dmg in your burst dmg so u can burst dmg while u burst dmg.
08-21-2015, 01:32 AM
Aiselia

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Originally Posted by Sleigh

I will say I'm a bit curious on why you care so much about burst, OP.

The only reason I could think of for caring specifically about burst is PVP, although admittedly I've never touched PVP in this game so I don't know how important that is over other aspects. In most games I've played PVP in, burst is king (barring broken CC) so they don't have a chance to fight back.
08-21-2015, 03:18 AM
ThirdChild_ZKI

Quote:

Originally Posted by Myon88

I'm pretty jealous of Bard's barrage + empyreal arrow. Wildfire is larger burst overall but it's hard not to envy that single gcd, no setup needed combo.

It's pretty neat too as it lets you do things like instagib A1S alarums without having to wait for resins and spazers.

Now that I finally got Empyreal Arrow, I've fallen in love with BRD all over again. Barrage + EA makes my seat sticky :P
08-21-2015, 05:31 AM
Ephier

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Originally Posted by Warlyx

wildfire does more dmg but needs setup and perfection or everything falls apart , is a bit unfair but talk to daddy SE , we bards arent the enemy, EA + barrage is all what we have for burst :(

@OP , Drgs can be scary too with all the CDs up , and is the best sustained , if u doubt btw blm and drg , choose DRG no doubt ,but is melee , and blm is turret caster, so if u prefer a caster go for it!

I don't care, I was saying that they have such strong burst and they still cry they want fixing. I can understand the animation on straight shot and what not, but a buff? No.
08-21-2015, 06:50 AM
Meow9000

Highest burst dps? Warrior. Have you ever hit triple crit fellcleaves in one berserk window? Barrage + EA has nothing on berserk cleaves lol
08-21-2015, 07:23 AM
EpicOreo80

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Originally Posted by Sleigh

I will say I'm a bit curious on why you care so much about burst, OP. AoE capabilities are more important for dungeons, and a whole mess of other things are more important for Alexander/Savage. Is it just something you have fun with or were you interested in burst for a gameplay reason?

I just have fun with burst damage.
08-21-2015, 07:24 AM
EpicOreo80

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arkenne

DRG seems like a good option from my melee point of view, but since DRG has 2 DoTs and you hate DoTs, BLM should be for you.
BRD, MCH and SMN seems to have a few good bursts but BLM's DPS is all about burst :v (even their DoT can burst)

I don't necessarily hate DoTs. I just prefer burst damage.
08-21-2015, 08:49 AM
Haxetc

Here's our A3S clear video where everyone is pretty much blowing everything at the start. As you can see, MCH is pretty far ahead in terms of burst DPS. Don't forget to add the pets since I parse them separately lol. http://www.twitch.tv/haxetc/v/11819039
08-21-2015, 06:37 PM
AniCelestine

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Originally Posted by Meow9000

Highest burst dps? Warrior. Have you ever hit triple crit fellcleaves in one berserk window? Barrage + EA has nothing on berserk cleaves lol

Eventhough warrior has high dmg, the thread is about DPS class wth highest burst.

Also, what if you don't crit any of them? Can warrior even reach 1,7k opener that way? How would you get 3 fell cleaves without using up your CD'S if you have to tank that time and there's something coming within past 1min that needs longer than 6 second IB and you need to save Holmgang for a little later for other mechanic.

And mch done properly beats warrior on opener burst, sure warrior has best 2gcd burst each minute if you can fell cleave infuriate fell cleave.

But once again, warrior is still designwise tank not dps that the OP asked for.
08-21-2015, 07:36 PM
Greywolfamakir

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Originally Posted by Haxetc

Here's our A3S clear video where everyone is pretty much blowing everything at the start. As you can see, MCH is pretty far ahead in terms of burst DPS. Don't forget to add the pets since I parse them separately lol. http://www.twitch.tv/haxetc/v/11819039

Do your mates have all the same ilvl202 like You?
08-21-2015, 08:10 PM
Waliel

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meow9000

Highest burst dps? Warrior. Have you ever hit triple crit fellcleaves in one berserk window? Barrage + EA has nothing on berserk cleaves lol

Still seems to crit for less than F4 by decent margin.
08-22-2015, 12:11 AM
Ryaz

DRG are pretty much the best DPS class in the game right now. Best sustained DPS and one of the highest burst. Can't lose with them.

MCH and BRD are also good, but you have to watch out for certain things with MCH. If you want to max your burst, you have to play perfectly in those 15 seconds until Wildfire (while hoping boss mechanics don't ruin it by going invincible or something... This happens in Neverreap a lot). You are also reliant on DRG (again that class) for max damage as you can't apply the piercing debuff yourself.

So, yeah. As much as I love my MCH, if you want to play a class with high burst and also the best overall DPS, go DRG.
08-22-2015, 07:12 AM
Haxetc

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Originally Posted by Greywolfamakir

Do your mates have all the same ilvl202 like You?

They're all pretty close. The MNK is i203, the DRG is i197 and the SMN is i196.

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