Color maters now

Have you guys noticed that the stats on a Colored piece of gear are different than the stats on an un-colored piece of gear. (seems to be add some stats for more restrictions on who can use the gear).

I noticed that the colored recipes utilize the initial base gear that's been crafted already, so I guess that makes sense.

For ex: http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com...assId=&rankId=

No ones updated their gear stats on websites and wikis :/ I would love to just pore through the gear right now in a list to see what's up, and didn't feel like loggin on just to do it haha

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Originally Posted by Letrange

Have you guys noticed that the stats on a Colored piece of gear are different than the stats on an un-colored piece of gear. (seems to be add some stats for more restrictions on who can use the gear).

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I'd still like to experiment a bit, but yes, coloring items does change its stats from the base item and can also add class restrictions.

For example, Felt Halfgloves are usable by all classes, but Red Felt Halfgloves are only usable by DoH.

And like any other crafting process, when coloring you can start with an HQ base item and very likely not end up with an HQ colored item. ><

"Could screw up a wet dream" comes to mind

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Originally Posted by Mikita

And like any other crafting process, when coloring you can start with an HQ base item and very likely not end up with an HQ colored item. ><

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How is that? Because I thought if you used all HQ items, you get an HQ item.

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Originally Posted by Rubicon

How is that? Because I thought if you used all HQ items, you get an HQ item.

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Nope. Using all HQ items just helps your 'chances'. It doesn't guarantee an HQ. So you have to try to HQ it all over again.

It is a bit odd, I wonder if its even working as intended.

I really dont' like this dying system anyway, you shouldn't have a chance of loss on something as basic as dying an item. (at least not when the item is already 100%)

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Originally Posted by Rubicon

How is that? Because I thought if you used all HQ items, you get an HQ item.

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Not ingame yet. We have still the +1 +2 +3 HQ system

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Originally Posted by Mikita

I'd still like to experiment a bit, but yes, coloring items does change its stats from the base item and can also add class restrictions.

For example, Felt Halfgloves are usable by all classes, but Red Felt Halfgloves are only usable by DoH.

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Geez, really? Isn't the entire purpose of colouring items supposed to be a purely aesthetic option? Adding restrictions (either direct or indirect) based on colour seems to defeat the entire purpose of having different coloured versions of the same item to begin with.

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Originally Posted by Jinko

I really dont' like this dying system anyway, you shouldn't have a chance of loss on something as basic as dying an item. (at least not when the item is already 100%)

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It would be funny if a failed result was just an ugly dye job.

I really don't like the new dying system much at all. One of the few positives is that it takes up less inventory clutter by not having to have stacks of every color of the rainbow in numerous material types. I do like the idea of all purpose dye colors very much! That needed a change, but this current process for coloring gear is not helpful.

I don't like that gear that used to have a lot more variety in color is now limited to fewer colors. I also don't like that pink seems to have vanished.

I don't like that uncolored gear is of poorer quality (based on stats). What if someone prefers the undyed look? Color should provide an aesthetic appeal, not stats. The stats should be on the base item itself.

I don't like that once you make a dyed version of an item, that item is suddenly only useful to certain classes. One example: Suddenly my red velveteen sash no longer provides any stats beyond defense - and this is an item crafted out of cloth by a weaver. Why oh why can a weaver not get any benefit from this item? (But other crafts can).

I also don't like that dye just drops out of the rocks now. The previous process was too complicated, the new process just doesn't make sense.

In my ideal set up, dying would be as follows:

1) Dye material is gathered from gathering classes
2) Dye is created from that raw material into dye by an alchemist
3) A crafter synths a piece of gear suitable for dying
4) A crafter uses a bottle of dye to cosmetically color the gear OR a player can purchase a bottle of dye and bring the dye + gear to an NPC who can perform a colorization of the gear.
5) Dying would be much like the current repair process - a player puts a piece of gear up in the bazaar, along with either the dye or an offer for payment, and an alchemist can dye the gear using the same type of menu. No potential loss of gear, but the attempt could fail, resulting in the loss of dye.
6) Once gear has been dyed, it is permanent. Items that have had dye added can be sold/traded/bazaared in the current colored form.

I think dyes should have remained a player crafted item, not something available only as a drop.