PvP Lore

So, there's supposed to be a lore behind Frontlines—for some reason the grand companies can't agree on who gets. . . control over the Carteneau flats and the Allagan relics—right?

Then Seal Rock, we're downloading data from Allagan relics with our USB flash drives to bring back to our Grand companies scientists so they can do stuff with it—and it'd be a shame if another grand company got a hold of that data so, kill them with fire—right? Or is it WiFi? Is that why the S ranks give us more data faster? It's because they S ranks use fiber optics—isn't it? O

It's WiFi right?

It's AOL (Allagan Online). Which of course its beyond human reckoning.

(Best Cantonese accent I can muster) Soooo... Does anyone know anything about launch codes #americandad

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Originally Posted by Gooner_iBluAirJGR

So, there's supposed to be a lore behind Frontlines—for some reason the grand companies can't agree on who gets. . . control over the Carteneau flats and the Allagan relics—right?

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A really, really big weapon that makes Ultima Weapon look like a child's toy is hidden somewhere in those ruins.

You find that out at some point in the 2.x MSQ somewhat early on at level 50.

The GCs are fighting because none of them want any of the others to be able to get access to it.

But they can't fight for real without breaking a tentative peace, so they staged some sort of war game to...solve nothing at all, because no one ever wins.

In other words, the lore for this is a joke that is a gaping, nonsensical plot hole in and of itself.

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Originally Posted by Gooner_iBluAirJGR

Then Seal Rock, we're downloading data from Allagan relics with our USB flash drives to bring back to our Grand companies scientists so they can do stuff with it—and it'd be a shame if another grand company got a hold of that data so, kill them with fire—right?

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Yeah, pretty much. "Data! Go fetch before the others can because reasons!" That's all the lore we got for this.

Far as I could find, there's not even a smidgen of information on what that island is beyond "Look! More Allagan Ruins!". We don't even know why the data is there, or what it's about. Seriously.

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Originally Posted by Vandril

A really, really big weapon that makes Ultima Weapon look like a child's toy is hidden somewhere in those ruins.

You find that out at some point in the 2.x MSQ somewhat early on at level 50.

The GCs are fighting because none of them want any of the others to be able to get access to it.

But they can't fight for real without breaking a tentative peace, so they staged some sort of war game to...solve nothing at all, because no one ever wins.

In other words, the lore for this is a joke that is a gaping, nonsensical plot hole in and of itself.

Yeah, pretty much. "Data! Go fetch before the others can because reasons!" That's all the lore we got for this.

Far as I could find, there's not even a smidgen of information on what that island is beyond "Look! More Allagan Ruins!". We don't even know why the data is there, or what it's about. Seriously.

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It's "civilized combat" to settle which GC gets claim over the allagan ruins, nevermind we could get a repeat of whats going on and the Garleans (or anyone in league with the remaining Acsians really) where they sack the allagan data/tech, reverse engineer it and we have a repeat of the ultima weapon fiasco.

Yes, nothing is more "civilized" than (Slaughter) objectives. It's not even training to self better themselves (wolves den). We're fighting over pieces of rock which may or may not have any value like the damned tomestones that are more often than not, stronger than reforged weapons of legend.

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Originally Posted by RiceisNice

It's "civilized combat" to settle which GC gets claim over the allagan ruins, nevermind we could get a repeat of whats going on and the Garleans (or anyone in league with the remaining Acsians really) where they sack the allagan data/tech, reverse engineer it and we have a repeat of the ultima weapon fiasco.

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Yep. But civilized combat that never ends accomplishes nothing at all.

Meaning, the lore...is broken.

The Frontlines campaigns allowed the 3 GC's to decide who gets control over the Allagan ruins that Bahamut/old elf guy unearthed when they leveled the cartaneu flats.
I believe the guy who gives you access says "Don't think of it as war. Think of it as organized violence for the sake of gaining territory" (So... War then. Got it).
It's basically a big joke. There's no real logic to it, and no one ever wins; so, the PvP lore is stuck in limbo until SE says otherwise. As far as I know, Seize has no lore, but it probably follows the same logic as above.
Currently, THE ONLY PVP LORE THAT IS EVEN NOTEWORTHY is the possibility that Omega Weapon is sleeping under the ruins we're fighting over. They say it was a weapon built to take on King Bahamut himself, but, as the Coils are now over and the plot has progressed past this point (trying to avoid spoilers here), there's no word on if Omega will ever become a Raid or Trial in the future. Fingers crossed, though, cuz that would be awesome.

Do the GCs even have the means to unzip the .rar files found in the tomestones and tomeliths? I thought that was Garlond Ironworks' schtick, unless the GCs really like to sit on unplayable piles of Allag's equivalent of Chex Quest.

Either way, regarding a certain weapon, I can see something like Carteneau Flats - Subterranean Ruins (Suppression)...

...where three GCs duke it out to see how hard they can damage the partially reactivated monster of a mech while collecting chunks of its ever-reconstructing body (y'know, for "data"). After reaching an arbitrary number of "800 points" or whatever from scraping the poor thing after its awkward attempt at self-defense, it'll just simply rebuild itself for the next match while we pretend GCs are actually going somewhere with this.

That way, they can keep up the wacky loop of not (unfortunately) resolving anything as far as a story goes.

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Originally Posted by Gooner_iBluAirJGR

Or is it WiFi? Is that why the S ranks give us more data faster? It's because they S ranks use fiber optics—isn't it? O

It's WiFi right?

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B rank = USB 1.0, A rank = USB 2.0 and S rank = USB 3.0 :D

However the allagans were smart and included DRM protections to deter people including but not limited to:

• Live snakes;
• Code wheels;
• FBI warnings;
• Sony rootkits;
• etc.

We 3 gcs can't work together even though garleans and dragons are wrecking shit.....

My favourite comment about this stupid lore

Yeah this sweet lore (we didnt even get a quest for the new map..) sure is worth crappy queues, imbalance between teams and not been able to play with whoever i feel like..

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Originally Posted by Gooner_iBluAirJGR

So, there's supposed to be a lore behind Frontlines—for some reason the grand companies can't agree on who gets. . . control over the Carteneau flats and the Allagan relics—right?

Then Seal Rock, we're downloading data from Allagan relics with our USB flash drives to bring back to our Grand companies scientists so they can do stuff with it—and it'd be a shame if another grand company got a hold of that data so, kill them with fire—right? Or is it WiFi? Is that why the S ranks give us more data faster? It's because they S ranks use fiber optics—isn't it? O

It's WiFi right?

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Agreed. The PvP lore is lazy. :/

the faster the lore is removed in favor of getting rid of these asinine queue restrictions, the better

They originally wanted to flip a coin, but coins only had two sides. So the only logical solution was to get their Second Lieutenants (and possibly some other lower ranks) to slaughter each other instead.

The lore of PvP still has my number one favorite line of all time in FFXIV:

Guy:"Try not to think of it as "war." Think of it as organized conflict for the sake of gaining territory..."

Me: "Hold on a sec... Lemme find a dictionary..."

In all seriousness though, I don't know why they're still trying to cling to this nonsense. They abandoned the concept of lore with Seize (no cutscenes, no explanation, nothing), and it didn't make sense in the first place. The MSQ has completely moved past the Omega issue, since

Taledji Adeledji is dead and Lolorito admitted that he doesn't give a damn (not sure if we can trust him on that, but for now it's a mute point)

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and even if they had somehow worked PvP into the MSQ and Omega became a thing, THERE IS NO WAY IN HELL THAT OMEGA WOULD HAVE BEEN PVP RELATED. It most certainly would have been a raid or a trial or something.

Bottom line: this was PvE content, and PvE problems.... so... why are PvP'ers being punished for it??

Necro'd!!!!

Anyway, the eff I want any sand merchants or tree huggers on my team, please never remove GC restrictions #Maelstrong

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Originally Posted by Iagainsti

Necro'd!!!!

Anyway, the eff I want any sand merchants or tree huggers on my team, please never remove GC restrictions #Maelstrong

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Even with the GC restriction they will jump to your GC anyway if they think its the "winning" GC. Get rid of that crap restriction already. Besides I think it would be kinda fun to go up against some of the people I've been teamed up with anyway.

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Originally Posted by Iagainsti

Necro'd!!!!

Anyway, the eff I want any sand merchants or tree huggers on my team, please never remove GC restrictions #Maelstrong

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More like tree therapists really, what with the elementals' first reaction to problems being "Start killing everyone indiscriminately." I sure wouldn't want to live there.