question about bismarck

I got a question about bismarck.

What exactly is he doing while you are on his back that hurts the player? Says something to the effect of "aetherial disruption" but what is that in layman's terms, is he slow cooking our innards or something?

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Originally Posted by Kallera

I got a question about bismarck.

What exactly is he doing while you are on his back that hurts the player? Says something to the effect of "aetherial disruption" but what is that in layman's terms, is he slow cooking our innards or something?

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Either the wind around him is being effected or he's literally trying to suck our aether (Aka lifeforce/souls) out of out bodies while we're in physical contact with him.

I would argue that, as a massive concentration of wind, water, and lightning aether, being in contact with Bismarck throws our internal aetherial balance out of whack.

But that's just me...

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Originally Posted by Cilia

I would argue that, as a massive concentration of wind, water, and lightning aether, being in contact with Bismarck throws our internal aetherial balance out of whack.

But that's just me...

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I always forget Bismark is made of three diffrent types of aether. Thats probably the case there concidering the name of the debuff.

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Originally Posted by Kaiser-Ace

I always forget Bismark is made of three two diffrent types of aether.

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Just wind and water.

As for the debuff, you can reason it away with just about anything, as nothing is confirmed, but I find the aether-sucking rationale posed by Kaiser preferable.

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Originally Posted by treuhavik

Just wind and water.

As for the debuff, you can reason it away with just about anything, as nothing is confirmed, but I find the aether-sucking rationale posed by Kaiser preferable.

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So thunder is just here because why not?

That said I also prefer kaiser's hypothesis as well

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Originally Posted by Phyllo

So thunder is just here because why not?

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Well, the game specifically states that both Bismark and Ravana are of two elements. However, as it was pointed out earlier today, there is a connection to a third element.

The only clue I've picked up so far, seeing as Bismark precedes Ravana, is that they follow the elemental creation wheel;

Water + Wind = Bismark + Lightning, Fire + Earth = Ravana + Ice

https://ffxivinfo.files.wordpress.co...wheel-key1.png


Further significance of their bonus elements, though, remains illusive.

EDIT: Of course, the developers could have just picked two sets of elements at random, made the primals of them and then tacked the remaining elements on to use them all up, making way for the shift in focus toward Eikons.

Seems fair enough

I was just basing my guess on the fact Bismarck uses some lightning attacks during the fight. Either way, the debuff is called "Aetherial Disruption" and while he does draw aether from his surroundings Bismarck literally eats the islands to regain his strength...

... anything explicitly stating Ravana and Bismarck are "only" dual-element primals? I don't recall any such information being in-game...

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Originally Posted by Cilia

I was just basing my guess on the fact Bismarck uses some lightning attacks during the fight. Either way, the debuff is called "Aetherial Disruption" and while he does draw aether from his surroundings Bismarck literally eats the islands to regain his strength

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Thus my theory on the DoT dammage. Up till now we've only fought primals a few times bigger than us. The fact that Bismark was not only flying, but the largest primal we've faced yet ment we had to actually RIDE the primal. Which could have indeed made us vulnerable to the Aether Osmosis that primals use on their surroundings.

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Originally Posted by Kaiser-Ace

Thus my theory on the DoT dammage. Up till now we've only fought primals a few times bigger than us. The fact that Bismark was not only flying, but the largest primal we've faced yet ment we had to actually RIDE the primal. Which could have indeed made us vulnerable to the Aether Osmosis that primals use on their surroundings.

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That's kind of what I was getting at. Direct, sustained contact with Bismarck drains us of wind and water (and maybe lightning) aether, so staying in contact with him too long throws our internal balance out of whack and starts physically harming us.

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Originally Posted by Cilia

anything explicitly stating Ravana and Bismarck are "only" dual-element primals?

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True, there's nothing saying that they're only those elements, but there aren't any other elements found in their bodies...

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Originally Posted by The Burning Eye of Ravana Anakna

The round gemstone heavily aspected to both earth and fire is believed by the Gnath to be an eye Ravana lost thousands of years ago at the hands of a rival tribe's hero.

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Originally Posted by Bismarck's Baleen

Pulled from the Lord of the Expanse's massive maw, this thick piece of keratinized tissue appears aspected to both wind and water.

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I'm also 99.9% positive Unukalhai confirms these aspects again, though I can't pull his post-Ravana dialogue at current and I'm away from game.

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Originally Posted by treuhavik

True, there's nothing saying that they're only those elements, but there aren't any other elements found in their bodies...

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I'm also 99.9% positive Unukalhai confirms these aspects again, though I can't pull his post-Ravana dialogue at current and I'm away from game.

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Point conceded.

Them using three elements vs. two in their respective fights' mechanics definitely makes the inference that they're composed of all those elements an easy one.
But despite that not being the case, there's still the connection to a third element. And I'm still a little conflicted on whether or not there's a deeper meaning to it other than "Let's dump all the elements into these two so we can move s[kupo!]t along."