So is it safe to say that we won't get PvP for a long time? At least till 2012?

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10-05-2011, 12:47 AM
KamikazeMan

So is it safe to say that we won't get PvP for a long time? At least till 2012?

They mentioned PvP taking place within a Colosseum. Do you think we won't get a Colosseum till after the world re-design? I hope it's not located via teleport at one of the cities like most things are >_>

I know they mentioned area conquest, but I get the feeling we won't see that till after the Colosseum battles (or within the same patch).
10-05-2011, 12:51 AM
Sephrick

There's one in the gladiator's guild. It's where most of that class' story takes place.

Just look down next time you run by the guild, you can see it from there.
10-05-2011, 12:52 AM
yukikaze_yanagi

there's already a colosseum, in gladiator's guild.
10-05-2011, 12:53 AM
Jennestia

Which is good, PvP should be the last thing done if they're adamant on incorporating it.
10-05-2011, 12:53 AM
Holland

There's no mention of PvP up until 1.21. So I would believe there is none for a while, yeah. I'm not a fan at all for PvP but would like to try it out =D
10-05-2011, 12:55 AM
Sojiro

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Originally Posted by Jennestia

Which is good, PvP should be the last thing done if they're adamant on incorporating it.

Agreed, especially considering the current classes need reworking, and they haven't even put out jobs yet. I never assumed we would see PvP until well into 2012.
10-05-2011, 12:59 AM
Oscillate_Wildly

I was kinda hoping the PvP would resemble conquest or fun red vs blue server wide things and not just 1 on 1 ring fighting.
10-05-2011, 01:00 AM
Coombah

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Q: PvP has often been touched on, but exactly what kind of elements are you thinking to add?

A: First off, we are designing it so that players that do not wish to take part in PvP are not forced to. We are planning 2 things for PvP. The first are battles in the Coliseum. The second is an PvP area where you can fight for control of various influences.

I think it will be not be anytime soon, I'm sure they still have alot of work still do and i'd bet they are still brain storming the 2nd one.
10-05-2011, 01:02 AM
Oscillate_Wildly

yay. D:< Conquest. /hulksup
10-05-2011, 01:05 AM
syntaxlies

i think we may see pvp in 1.21 or 1.22
10-05-2011, 01:06 AM
Coombah

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Originally Posted by Oscillate_Wildly

yay. D:< Conquest. /hulksup

LOL Your prolly right :D
10-05-2011, 02:03 AM
Oscillate_Wildly

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Originally Posted by Coombah

LOL Your prolly right :D

I hope so. I do hope it's available to watch from the sidelines. Part of the fun of XI's was riding through and watching some poor fella shot down as he runs away. I always wanted to participate myself but never leveled up fast enough while it was still popular.

XIV's challenge will be to find a way to make it accessible to a variety of people while offering enough rewards down the line to make it relevant in future expansions. D:
10-05-2011, 02:08 AM
Murugan

I was relieved to get confirmation that PvP will not be thrust on players who do not want to do it (meaning a PvP grind won't be required for obtaining useful PvE gear etc. I assume). Also that the Colosseum will be opened as one form is very welcome news.

I don't really care when it is introduced, but I was happy about this news.
10-05-2011, 02:12 AM
Krin

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Originally Posted by Oscillate_Wildly

yay. D:< Conquest. /hulksup

You sig....wow....can't stop laughing at work........omg.....
10-05-2011, 02:14 AM
Oscillate_Wildly

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Originally Posted by Krin

You sig....wow....can't stop laughing at work........omg.....

Voldemort is pleased.
And yeeees. Thank God. I don't want to be forced into PVP as a requirement to something. They already discussed this before but they even said themselves XIV will be focused more on PVE. If they did put more focus on PVP all the classes would require a complete turn around and adjustments.
10-05-2011, 02:21 AM
Echo

I wasn't too thrilled about this. I don't think PvP suits FFXIV very well, especially in its current state of class balance. It'd be archers everywhere, first shot wins.
10-05-2011, 02:25 AM
Oscillate_Wildly

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Originally Posted by Echo

I wasn't too thrilled about this. I don't think PvP suits FFXIV very well, especially in its current state of class balance. It'd be archers everywhere, first shot wins.

Not if you can stun your opponent. :I

Not that it matters much, I'm sure it'll just be more fluff content for fun. PVP, in this game at least, should never be taken so seriously. It takes an archer a while to set up that 'one shot' and in the time it takes for that to happen a Conj or Thau could easily cast a debuff and start a chainspell.

PVP is quite different from PVE. It will of course be off balance but perhaps not in that way. :U XI had a problem with BLU and SAM during PVP. It was quite horrible for a mage period.
10-05-2011, 03:40 AM
Geesus

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Originally Posted by Jennestia

Which is good, PvP should be the last thing done if they're adamant on incorporating it.

^This. Totally agree! :)
10-05-2011, 06:54 AM
stoned

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Originally Posted by Murugan

I was relieved to get confirmation that PvP will not be thrust on players who do not want to do it (meaning a PvP grind won't be required for obtaining useful PvE gear etc. I assume). Also that the Colosseum will be opened as one form is very welcome news.

I don't really care when it is introduced, but I was happy about this news.

im happy about the news also. but i disagree with ur asumption. vanity items and gear that is comparable to pve gear will not give pvpers a advantage or force pvers to do pvp. pvp reward do nothing besides make this part of the game more entertaining. that is what we all play games for.

i realy hope they add duels or some sort also. we all know the pvp will be unbalanced but if they take the same aproch they took in ffxi. witch they proly will. they will seperate the damage scale in pvp so it will not effect pve @ all. so i dont see why peeps would worry about this SE in my opinion had the best system for keeping the 2 elements seperate. they just never took the time to balnce it, or give incentives for peeps to do it. it was accualy work to try to have fun doing pvp at times. i rember standing in town begging peeps for hours to come do balista. but with no real reason to do it and no rewards. it eventualy died off and i found other games where i clicked a button and i was in a group with 20 other peeps who wants to pvp. SE needs a system like this. instanced pvp where only peeps who want to join can, and dont have to wait hours for they matches to start. this is not fun waiting around for hours hoping u can pvp is not fun. if anything a simple duel system would fix this and make pvp more apeeling. and give me and my friends somthing to do when we get bored of the npc grind. i loved ffxi played it for 5 yeared untill the pvp died. then i had to move on to other games that was willing to please my style of play. i like to do both pvp and pve, and i have played all ff games. i realy hope they put effort into accualy keeping the pvp interesting instead of letting it die off like they did in ffxi. brenner was crap. diora was imposible to do after the real balistas died and u couldnt obtain anymore points to make a match. all 3 vers of pvp was to hard to participate in. the dumb long quest to be able to pvp was dumb and shoulda been removed. or least changed so u didnt have to do it for the licence. i apoligize for all this ranting but looking back @ ffxi just making olf feeling come back. im srry if this offends some of the ff fans that dont want pvp. im just trolling along forums figured ide put in my 2 cents why i pray for more pvp info to come out.
10-05-2011, 07:11 AM
Coglin

I hope it takes a very very long time for them to impliment PvP. As that will be the point in which the game will see class after class get hosed, in the name of balancing. Never fails, happens in every MMO when they add PvP some time after launch. Abilities always work differently against player characters then they do in ame mob npcs. PvPers will cry foul WHEN one class has an ability or two that is OP in PvP. They will foolishly nerf it for the sake of the PvPers who cry all over the forums. Now the OP PvP spells that were decent to good PvE spells, will be nerfed and useless PvE.

I have never seen an MMO that had PvP introduced sometime after launch that did not ruin PvE.
10-05-2011, 07:14 AM
Overkill9000

pvp is almost always unbalanced in some way, especially in pve games where there are roles such as healers, CC, and support (oddly sometimes these are the best at pvp). no matter how much work they do, i highly doubt they will be able to balance the classes for pve and pvp.

you do not play ff mmo's if you are looking for pvp
10-05-2011, 07:25 AM
stoned

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Originally Posted by Coglin

I hope it takes a very very long time for them to impliment PvP. As that will be the point in which the game will see class after class get hosed, in the name of balancing. Never fails, happens in every MMO when they add PvP some time after launch. Abilities always work differently against player characters then they do in ame mob npcs. PvPers will cry foul WHEN one class has an ability or two that is OP in PvP. They will foolishly nerf it for the sake of the PvPers who cry all over the forums. Now the OP PvP spells that were decent to good PvE spells, will be nerfed and useless PvE.

I have never seen an MMO that had PvP introduced sometime after launch that did not ruin PvE.

i respect ur opinion but i disgree. pvp never ruined mmos crybabys who cant accept change ruins the game for themself. this game will change a million times in the next 5 years with out wit out pvp, so ur assumption is invalad and biased.

and as for part u sayed it urself, they change abiltys to work different in pvp. that will not effect pve.
10-05-2011, 07:42 AM
stoned

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Originally Posted by Overkill9000

pvp is almost always unbalanced in some way, especially in pve games where there are roles such as healers, CC, and support (oddly sometimes these are the best at pvp). no matter how much work they do, i highly doubt they will be able to balance the classes for pve and pvp.

you do not play ff mmo's if you are looking for pvp

funny cuzz i played ffxi for 5 years and had a blast doin pvp. i have played every FF since the nes days. and this i can tell u this. i play all MMOs for PVP and this game will have it. im looking forawrd to it.