SE rise in subscription numbers since a whole shot in the foot Blizzard did with WoW over the course of the last few months.
WoW down to 5.4M subscribers. Loss of 4.4M since their last expansion Warlords of Draenor released.
Blizzard to announce new expansion at Gamescom
Blizzard forum posters pretty much up in arms at how blizzard is handling the situation.
SE Going to gamescom...i see someone at SE was paying close attention to the subscription levels at Blizzard.
This is your chance SE, you welcomed with open arms multitudes of players from WoW, here is your chance to claim even more! MAKE IT COUNT!
SE going to gamescom...
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08-05-2015, 01:59 PMAsteriaStarfallSE going to gamescom...
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08-05-2015, 02:00 PMStrejdaTom
More $$ more content. SE go for it please. :D
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08-05-2015, 02:13 PMMilesSaintboroguh
Since when was Square in dire need of more subscribers? I rather see what Square has in store for 3.1 and beyond.
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08-05-2015, 02:15 PMChrolo
Last year they didnt reveal much about upcomming content.
There were only battle stations to fight vs primals and win a "I beat ..." shirt and a station where you could watch people play PvP. -
08-05-2015, 02:16 PMAsteriaStarfallMore subscribers = More moneyQuote:
Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh
Money that can be invested in additional staff, development team, ect. More content, more of everything players ask for. That's what can come from it. -
08-05-2015, 02:31 PMReinfeldIf they were giving us what we asked for, 3.0 would have had some new form of content (*cough*anything open world*cough*) instead of rehashing the same Hunts everyone complained about throughout 2.xx and the same predictable 2 tome grinds, primal and one raid. Who knows, if they had a massive new influx of subs maybe they would get on that but I doubt it.Quote:
Originally Posted by AsteriaStarfall
Don't get me wrong, I can appreciate the frequency with which they have content updates but getting the exact same thing every 3 months is really boring. -
08-05-2015, 02:41 PMStrejdaTomEvery MMO is in dire need of more subscribers all the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh
Unlike singleplayer games the amount and quality of content is equal to the amount of subscribers I believe (or it atleast should be). -
08-05-2015, 02:42 PMAsteriaStarfallBut why not at least try. If i was a executive or ceo i would be jumping at this chance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reinfeld
As far as "new" content. Look at a lot of the MMO's out there. Quests can only be so unique. You design one and now you want to try and create 500+ quests that are all completely different from one another? No, not going to happen.
For the "anything open world" This is not meant to sound sarcastic or belittling, it is a genuine question. What would you design for an outdoor adventure or quest. Start to finish what would it entail?
Those details and when i say details not the, well i would do something with X, no a completely thought out with NPC dialogue and everything type details would you include in that quest to make it stand out from all the others?
Those are the types of posts that will stand out and possibly get attention. I honestly would love to have pages upon pages of this thread be about all kinds of unique quests. The community of all types of MMO's can have a wonderful mind when it comes to that sort of thing. Please anyone feel free to share your quest or adventure your would design here.
Follow lore, follow the rules of the game. -
08-05-2015, 02:52 PMDreadRabbitHonestly this is why I'm so sad there's still no real concrete news about a Korean MMO called Peria Chronicles. Literally one of the biggest features of the game is not only can players build their own towns, but they can also design their own quests that actually give rewards if players complete said quests. At least that's the developers' goal.Quote:
Originally Posted by AsteriaStarfall
I am thoroughly enjoying FF14, but if that game ever comes to light and proves to be a success, I hope it makes other developers be more willing to let players have some control.
That said, I agree. I hope that Square announces something that will help draw more people in. But seeing as their focus seems to be FF15...I'm not too entirely confident on that. -
08-05-2015, 03:01 PMNeophyte
Hm, I'm about 2km away from fairground, but I have to work those days... damn.
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08-05-2015, 03:07 PMEdwinLi
I'm hoping they may release some new 3.1 content info but as of now it may be too early since it has yet to pass the 2 month mark.
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08-05-2015, 03:09 PMReinfeldMany MMOs have zones with "elite" monsters. Open world areas with monsters that require a party to kill. When they announced Heavensward would have a "Sky" theme and showed videos of multiple players attacking dragons I could hardly be blamed for expecting they had something in mind like the Ru'Aun Gardens from FFXI (aka Sky). If you never played FFXI, it was *the* endgame zone for the expansion. Endgame linkshells had to camp Notorious Monsters or farm items off the trash there to get the spawn items for the bosses that dropped some of the best gear in the game. And reaching the final fight of the main story was actually dangerous and difficult even when relatively geared. I realize that unlike FFXI, gear in FFXIV is a commodity so such a thing may not have the same impact.Quote:
Originally Posted by AsteriaStarfall
They could have made Elite monsters an alternate way to level (since some people do enjoy that method of leveling, at least occasionally) or a way to add the large party content that raiding FCs have been clamoring for. Something like various members would need to camp FATE's (or some kind of hunt on a short-ish timer?) in the zone for items to pop bosses that only they could attack and that required 24 semi-coordinated people (or maybe 8-man and 24-man versions with better/more loot in the 24). And as a bonus, such a thing would have quelled the complaints that "There's no danger in the world" by providing an area with REAL danger instead of the watered down version they gave us where mobs have slightly more HP/damage. -
08-05-2015, 03:20 PMFelisThat will still not increase the number of unique quests. Most players will just create quests they already knew from somewhere else.Quote:
Originally Posted by DreadRabbit
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08-05-2015, 03:24 PMlorelI am sure there will be a lot of quests asking you to find Mankriks wife...Quote:
Originally Posted by Felis
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08-05-2015, 03:33 PMDreadRabbitAnd there will still be the few who design something truly unique. And those will be the ones that are remembered.Quote:
Originally Posted by Felis
But that does bring up a good point. "I want more unique quests!" Well if we as players can't give a concrete example of what would be unique, how can we expect the devs to pull a rabbit out of their hat? We arguably play more games than they do since their time's spent making games, so we may very well have more examples of what we don't want to see. And yet very rarely can we come up with anything truly new. -
08-05-2015, 10:32 PMTuathaaAnnouncing the xpac at Gamescon instead of Blizzcon kind of screams desperation on Blizz's part but realistically the players that SE wants to attract from WoW would get pretty bored with FF and go back. There's not alot of endgame to keep them going, crafting is a mess and the pvp scene is all but dead.Quote:
Originally Posted by AsteriaStarfall
There isn't much in the way of replay ability and story content either to keep alt junkies going -
08-06-2015, 12:05 AMFelisi think it is more because it is the gamescom.Quote:
Originally Posted by AsteriaStarfall
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08-06-2015, 12:07 AMAssirraOr it turns into wow where it lost all reason and starts doing stupid shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by AsteriaStarfall
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08-06-2015, 12:17 AMGilthasIf there's something this game doesn't need it's camping. No one liked camping FATEs for quests and you want more of that? Crap like that needs to stay in the past.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reinfeld
I also don't understand this obsession with wanting overworld areas that require a party to get through. People that ask for this always have the romantic view of players teaming up to kill these monsters when in reality everyone would just MGS past them just like we did in FFXI. Reaching the final fight area of the RotZ expansion was only "dangerous and difficult even when relatively geared" if your party had morons that didn't bring along sneak/invisible pots. -
08-06-2015, 02:52 AMNekodar
Open world content...
Free for all and worthwhile -> see hunt zerglings
Free for all and just something for vanity -> noone will do it after the first days
Claiming party only -> claim bots galore
Tiered pop item party/alliance superbosses -> would be fun, but then everyone turns into pop item grinding zerglings
What would you do for something open world that doesn't end up causing more grief instead?