Have you ever noticed that...

Once you get into higher level dungeons, Tanks stop getting commendations outside of trials? Happened in ARR and it's happening in HW too. What's with that? Trying to get a parade chocobo here.

Do a expert Duty Finder and speed run without taxing your healers through careful cooldown management and watch the commendations come in.

It's quite possible to dual pull most stuff in Fractals and Neverreap.

possible? I didn't know there was any other way.

I thought the only way to do any dungeon is to pull everything on your way until your road is blocked by a wall/gate.

Well I personally queue dungeons with a healer I know most of the time, we do fat speed runs and DPS seem to not give commendations to either of us. I think they give commendations to eachother which is I think cool because DPS need commendations too.

getting commendations is a tricky thing these day due to people give commendations for different reason

just doing your job gives you a 50/50 likely hood of getting a commendation

getting noticed by your party give you a better likely hood of commendations

I can't say I've noticed such a trend. I Tank pretty much everything and I find I get commendations even if I royally screw up once or twice.

Have noticed this too, when speedrunning the 60 dungeons people (usually the dps) seem really on edge and impatient, probably from running the dungeon so many times. Even if you make no mistakes rarely get 1, sometimes 2.

Funnily enough I get much more frequently commendations in Neverreap as MNK, even with only mediocre contribution to trash clear speed. No rhyme or reason. :|

Honestly don't like the 1 commendation only system at all, it does not reflect how good someone did, if everyone did great then most in the group will still walk away without a commendation.

...no? I get multiple comms every single day. It's rare enough to not get one that I usually raise a brow, then shrug and say "hey, the healer did a good job too" and move on.

This is gonna sound crazy.

Talk to your party... engage them... make them laugh. Then play well and i guarantee you get some commendations.

Yeah, I get commendations for being entertaining way more than just doing the job. I do the job really well, I explain anything that needs explaining, I talk about stuff. Because otherwise you're just mindlessly going from Point A to Point B.

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getting commendations is a tricky thing these day due to people give commendations for different reason

just doing your job gives you a 50/50 likely hood of getting a commendation

getting noticed by your party give you a better likely hood of commendations

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Bingo.
But I'd add:
-The first part would be if you're a healer or tank
-The second part being; getting yourself noticed e.g., compliment others, show appreciation for random shit, Congratulate party members, etc.

Btw I have almost a hundred of these are they worth anything more than the gold Magiteck Armor Mount?

Well, as a healer, I very rarely give my commendations to tanks who initiate speed-runs without asking the rest of the party. Not because I can't handle it, but you're playing with 3 other people, and everyone might not wish to rush things. It's just inconsiderate imo. Did Neverreap once with a tank who actually asked if we wanted big or small pulls, he had my commendation secured from that very moment. Other than that, a nice, funny tank (or every other class really) will often get more commendations than a silent one from what I've seen.

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Originally Posted by Freyyy

Well I personally queue dungeons with a healer I know most of the time, we do fat speed runs and DPS seem to not give commendations to either of us. I think they give commendations to eachother which is I think cool because DPS need commendations too.

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I always give them to BLMs for obvious reasons.

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Originally Posted by Kumori_Kumo

Yeah, I get commendations for being entertaining way more than just doing the job. I do the job really well, I explain anything that needs explaining, I talk about stuff. Because otherwise you're just mindlessly going from Point A to Point B.

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The problem with this... and I'm very talkative when I think it's ok to talk, is when the other 3 do not say anything at all. Which discourages me from saying anything else for the rest of the run. I'm lucky if anyone says hello.

Let's be mindful that we are with each other for up to 30 minutes. That's a long time to not be saying anything.

I don't know, I usually get commendations as any class. I do my job, use CD at the right time, maintain aggro and the dps just aoe. Always enjoy talking with people! Sometimes I listen to trance music, which may distract me from paying attention to what people write in chat.

I have my DRK,War, DRG at lvl60 and now im leveling up my SMN. I always test tanks out in df: if they are undergeared in dungeons or mainscenario, I use titan egi. If they lose aggro, they are not doing their job right or may feel ashamed of not gearing up properly before entering a dungeon.

If you want to do a dungeon, be geared for it. If you don't want to gear up, go do fates -> stop wasting people's time.

Have a nice day.

I did notice a decrease after I got into HW, but I still certainly get enough that it must be more than the average of players in other roles. And extremely rare to not get 1/3. The reasons why seem quite clear to me:

1) People are in a race. Either to finish HW or to get better 60 gear. Too much of a race to give ANYONE a commendation (worst kind of people on the planet)

2) There is a correlation of a rise in alert players as you get further through the game and some will think more thoroughly about who gets their comm, rather than dumping them on tank. One might think the tank already gets plenty, while another might think the DPS or healer was better than what they are accustomed to seeing.

3) Once you've reached 60, a tanks ability to generate enmity doesn't rise as quickly as a DPSes ability to raise their damage potential (and therefore gaining the DPS more enmity). Even in late game, many DPS will still only sync their target with the other DPS by coincidence rather than intent (or worse they will be stalemated in the mindset that the other should be following their lead). Out-threating the full wrath of a DPS on two targets at once is much harder at the end-game than in previous stages (which explains why many DPS never felt the need to understand this at such a late point), especially when you're fresh around the i150 range. This can make it very hard to entirely avoid awkward chases which reflect poorly on you, but it eases as you gear up better.

It's nothing to get too upset over. Other than being friendly and playing your best, little else can be done to help. More so for point 3, which is when you practically have to jump into the fray with much better geared teammates out of necessity for Law. You'll never get comfortable in your role if you take every pretentious post to heart, like the one above me.