Time to Rethink Duration of Weekly Cap, and Here's Why

I have come to terms with the weekly tome cap, sort of. With 3.0 we were given Law tomes with no cap, so that's endgame baseline, akin to Darklight gear as it was reintroduced in 2.0. While I don't exactly agree with hijacking other players' game time and that time's potential to mitigate the discrepancy between 'casuals' and 'hardcore', I can also read the writing on the wall: the weekly cap isn't going anywhere soon.

The cap lasts too long considering Legacy and 2.0 players are in the same boat for the first time, a few max jobs, wanting some of that Artifact gear we've been drooling over for the better part of a year. Cap tomes for a month. If you aren't capping tomes weekly, it's obviously not high on your priority list, and so what is the argument for forcing players who are eager to advance more quickly to play at the pace of players who frankly aren't as interested as them? You're a helicopter parent, SE. Time to let your ducklings sink or swim.

The purpose is to stagger gear acquisition... SE doesn't want their raids finished in a week (not going to name anything particular here).

EDIT: Or are you suggesting they make all the gear ugly so no one wants them for glamour? Not sure what side of the fence you are on.

It's been like that for 2 years and won't change anything soon.

I don't get the whining.

They could make it like a rollover period so latecomers arent left behind..
Each week you are given an allowance, if you use it or not good for you..

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I get to 60 now so i can get 1350 tomes and be on par with everyone else instead of needing to wait 4 weeks to get the caps.

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Originally Posted by Haru

They could make it like a rollover period so latecomers arent left behind..
Each week you are given an allowance, if you use it or not good for you..

+450
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I get to 60 now so i can get 1350 tomes and be on par with everyone else instead of needing to wait 4 weeks to get the caps.

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So you want SE to implement welfare?

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Originally Posted by BHGlobbd

So you want SE to implement welfare?

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If I am not mistaken aren't the tomes you earn currently not carried over week to week? What I would like is them to actually make them stay. I sometimes can't get enough tomes to get what I want in 1 week and like to take my time. But I also don't want to be left behind just because of that. I am not saying give me my tomes or anything like that other person is. Just saying let me keep what I earned.

Just doing EX Roulette once a day for 7 days will cap you. If you can't spare 4~ Hours a week to doing EX Roulettes, maybe MMOs just aren't a genre that gels with your life.
Hell, even just running an Alex Floor Farm (generally 4 runs) will net you 40 Esoterics, and if you manage a 4x Farm on all 4 floors, that's one third of your weekly cap right there.

The cap exists to limit the speed at which we obtain the better ilvl gear outside of raids. Tome gear is quite literally the definition of welfare for those who dont/cant Raid.
For those that do Raid, Tome gear is a great filler piece while waiting for your Drops, or in some cases providing alternative stat options at the same ilvl.

TL;DR, nothing wrong with the weekly cap.

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Originally Posted by Rydia

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No, they carry over. You can only get 450 Esoteric tomes a week, with a total of 2000, once you cap 2000 you wont earn anymore, you just have to spend them to start getting tomes again. The Law tomes are uncapped, you can farm 2000 a week if you wanted to.

Or as others have suggested make the Tome Cap per job and only allow said job to buy gear for that job.

I think it's timed perfectly.
Doing Expert and Trial roulettes even people like me, who CAN'T play every day (you know, work, friends, just general things one could call having a LIFE), are able cap.
Having a higher cap, or a shorter reset period (technically both boil down to the same) would make people gear up too fast - content would get overgeared and thus easy and close to worthless too fast, and people with a life would be left behind in the dust.

Stop being elitists and find some other things to do outside of playing this game.

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Originally Posted by sirDarts

Stop being elitists and find some other things to do outside of playing this game.

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This word has really lost all its meaning, huh?

Dosen't take much to cap for a week. Log on and do one Expert. Don't even need to do it every day of the week. And then after the expert, go around and find some other fun inside the game to do. Hunts, Treasure Hunts, Work on an Airship or other group construction with friends.

Weekly limit is to stagger raid progression. Makes sense given the powerful DPS checks out now in Savage Alexander.

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Originally Posted by Elazu

This word has really lost all its meaning, huh?

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Its on par with troll now.

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Originally Posted by Elazu

This word has really lost all its meaning, huh?

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Pretty much. I see all these kids throwing around the word "Elitist" whenever they see something they don't agree with.

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Originally Posted by MysteryNotes

Pretty much. I see all these kids throwing around the word "Elitist" whenever they see something they don't agree with.

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i restrict it as an insult to people being complete an utter dick to someone trying to learn something.


on topic the only thing that should change is that your eso cap should have a spill-over from previous weeks...with a limit. for instance you would only get a chance at the tomes you couldn't get last week, so if you weren't able to get any last week your cap would temporarily be 900 tomes. if you hit 450+ that week no spillover to the next.
so it would be like:

capped first week
wasn't able to play for half of second week, only got 250 tomes
third week gets an extra 200 tomes you can acquire from what you missed. hit 500 tomes this week.
normal cap fourth week because you got 450+ last week.

Tome gear is not the definition of welfare gear in this game, as you might have noticed, although that might be the case in other games. FFXIV treats tome gear differently. It can often be BIS. Heck, there were pieces of WOD gear that were BIS. Placing large tome prices on items is a sufficient enough stagger system. The player base doesn't need a three-month cooling off period to make SE feel warm and fuzzy about how long content stays relevant or the discrepancy between frequent and infrequent players. Oh, and maybe some perceive this as whining, but at least I'm making a point rather than typing a one-sentence response that adds no value except to be spiteful. I'd bet you could keep your mouth shut the rest of your life and the world wouldn't suffer for it.

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Originally Posted by Psycofang

Its on par with troll now.

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Ooh, or Socialism. Now I wanna start an FC called Elite Socialist Trolls. Who's in?

SE would have to increase the tome prizes on the gear high enough that not even hardcore players can get more than 2 gears in a week.

I don't like the weekly cap either, however if the caps go away it will only widen the elite / casual player base even more.

I actually like the weekly cap. Maybe the amount I can get per week could be increased a bit. But for a player who avidly plays AND has to go to work, it means I don't have to play 24/7 just to keep up with players with more free time on their hands.

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Originally Posted by SethCypher

I actually like the weekly cap. Maybe the amount I can get per week could be increased a bit. But for a player who avidly plays AND has to go to work, it means I don't have to play 24/7 just to keep up with players with more free time on their hands.

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I hate this attitue of "Since i couldnt do it, noone should be able to".

That being said the problem lies in the armoury system. Countless threads have been made on the fact that this game allows players to play any class at any time, then caps their ability to do so by making weekly locks.

As I said many times, it's as if in any other game with weekly caps reaching that cap in one character locked the entire account.

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Originally Posted by Ashgarth

I hate this attitue of "Since i couldnt do it, noone should be able to".

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I know right?! Hate that too.

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Originally Posted by BHGlobbd

So you want SE to implement welfare?

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I don't think you understand what welfare is...

Also, it interferes with letting people approach the game the way they want. A cap makes people want to fill up on a currency so they don't miss out, but it takes a lot of time to do that. It actually punishes people who have less time rather than helping them.

Remember when the weekly cap was 300?

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Originally Posted by Neyka

Remember when the weekly cap was 300?

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Remember in patch 2.5 in when they removed the weekly one per week gear cap from WoD and where they gave us a quest to earn upgrade items for doing all 3 raids as well? I like options.....It would not bug me if they made the cap 300 per week again if they removed the limit of gear a person could get from Normal Alex in a week. At least then I could gear all my jobs evenly and have a reason to play more than one job then having to wait weeks for one job to be completely geared to finally go into another one.