Thank You For Bringing Back Weekly Caps

Seriously. The people who can play the game while they're at work or are unemployed or don't sleep were going insanely elitist and it was becoming an issue. The weekly cap is such a necessity and I hadn't realized how big of one it was until 3.0.

I finally got my ilvl up for Alexander 1 Normal and said "first time here" and I got a "Hello undergeared person whose weapon should be 5 ilvls up." For A1. Come on.

I'm sure 3 months from now we'll be hearing people irritated at the caps and wanting to progress further, but it doesn't help the overall scheme of things. It creates an unfair atmosphere of people who are privileged enough to spend a lot more time in the game, and those who can't.

Agreed. Although I think 450 is a bit low. I work pretty much a 9 to 5 job and I was able to cap pretty quick still, and was bored this weekend. All I had left to do was join failing ravana ex parties all weekend. I'd love to join a static but most of the statics are geared out in Alex gear with hive weapons already and only looking for people that are geared like them. Not to mention seeing most advertise 9pm to midnight. I got work in the morning screw that. If there was no cap then the majority would have ilvl 200+ already, complaining they got nothing to do at all, so yes thank you SE indeed.

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Originally Posted by Veritas-Ancora

I finally got my ilvl up for Alexander 1 Normal and said "first time here" and I got a "Hello undergeared person whose weapon should be 5 ilvls up." For A1. Come on.

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Don't feel upset for yourself when you come into contact with these people. These things matter to those kinds of players and they suffer from being unable to see how their priorities reflect on them as a person. Some suffer from the dunning-kruger effect where they have subconsciously chosen their time investment and gear as a measure of intellect. Usually accompanied with a smaller than average perspective in regard to others. They repeatedly fail to assess the root cause of their lack of enjoyment, which is the main obstacle that prevents them from approaching the game with a more relaxed temperament.

At the end of the day you already had to pass an iLvl requirement to enter, which means it was designed to be doable with what you were carrying. That player is acting out in a similar vain to people who refuse to play alongside certain classes, regardless of the players quality or other reasons why their experiences might have been consistently poor in the past (themselves).

The best you can respond to that with is something like: "Don't worry it's on the way :)"
If he continues his passive-aggressive approach, it's really up to your party to judge who is in the wrong. Just stay all-smiles, avoid showing that you feel the need to attack or defend (that's not to say you can't but focus on complimenting yourself rather than insulting others). People tend to take the side of the one that hides an undertone of positivity in everything they say.

Weekly caps hurt people with limited playtimes too. I don't know why people pretend it's a "punishment" for people who can play more.

Your gear is more than sufficient for that encounter.

yes unlimited points= vastly overgeared people refusing to play with others. Yay weekly cap!

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Originally Posted by SeraviEdalborez

Weekly caps hurt people with limited playtimes too. I don't know why people pretend it's a "punishment" for people who can play more.

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After playing Heavensward for those days before Esoterics were added, I can tell you exactly why the cap was added...before it was, and Law was being used for everything, Expert roulette was a ghost town. I waited 20 minutes as a tank for an instance. 20 MINUTES for a brand spanking new endgame dungeon...AS A TANK. Nobody was running them because they already got their gear for their main and didn't need the Law anymore.

That's why they have the cap, because if we could easily get everything we needed without a cap on Esoterics, people would already be fully geared out and the endgame would be completely dead, with nobody running anything because they already have the gear. The weekly cap limit is a blessing in disguise (though feels like a curse most of the time).

I like weekly caps because I have limited playtime, and it's nice to be able to hit my cap and say "Ok, I am good for now." rather than worrying about being perpetually left behind.

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Originally Posted by Veritas-Ancora

Thank You For Bringing Back Weekly Caps...

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Maybe you did get SE wrong? ^^;
At 2.0, there were 2 kinds of tomestones, Philo (i70) and Myth (i90), and Philo had no cap.
Obviously, in 3.0, Law is new Philo and Eso is new Myth.

With that being said, everything is working as intended, Law has no cap doesn't mean they removed the cap, it has no cap bcoz it is the new Philo which had no cap initially.
IMO "removing weekly caps" was never happend, it was just adding Eso(= Myth i90 AF) with Alex-gear (= old i90 Coil gear) one month later than Law.

should be capped at 500 not 450 that's just stupid...

Once upon a time, it was capped at 300

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Originally Posted by Chihaya

Once upon a time, it was capped at 300

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Yup, people always want just slightly more than whatever they're given. It's always just slightly more so it seems reasonable but it never ends.

Cap gets raised to 450 = people want it to be 500

cap gets raised to 500 = people want it to be 650

People don't want any specific number, they just want X+150 (give or take).

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Originally Posted by Malevicton

Yup, people always want just slightly more than whatever they're given. It's always just slightly more so it seems reasonable but it never ends.

Cap gets raised to 450 = people want it to be 500

cap gets raised to 500 = people want it to be 650

People don't want any specific number, they just want X+150 (give or take).

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I'm in full agreement that there's a cap. But I don't think it would be breaking the system if people were just about able to get their i200 weapon in two weeks. Doesn't bother me much just pointing out that key change it would make. Getting 450 a week and getting 500 is only the difference between getting a full set (6000 esos) in a minimum of 14 weeks or a minimum of 12 in the long run.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie-Amber

should be capped at 500 not 450 that's just stupid...

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Sorry, but this is pretty smart on their side. SE doesn't want people to gear up to quickly, so the way the math plays out, 450 is a fine number.

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Originally Posted by BlurtedNonsense

Agreed. Although I think 450 is a bit low. I work pretty much a 9 to 5 job and I was able to cap pretty quick still, and was bored this weekend. All I had left to do was join failing ravana ex parties all weekend. I'd love to join a static but most of the statics are geared out in Alex gear with hive weapons already and only looking for people that are geared like them. Not to mention seeing most advertise 9pm to midnight. I got work in the morning screw that. If there was no cap then the majority would have ilvl 200+ already, complaining they got nothing to do at all, so yes thank you SE indeed.

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Be thankful. The cap for mythology at the launch of ARR was 300.

Didn't weapon's only cost 900 Tokens then? The increased cap to 450 is really just an illusion. Regardless it took 3 weeks then and it takes 3 weeks now. They increased the cap to make players happy because they felt like they were doing more. I have very limited play time per week. Honestly I would be happier if I could cap my tokens with 2 or 3 dungeons for the whole week but we all know that won't happen.

Sometimes I wish the cap was higher yeah... but I also feel fine for doing my Ex roulettes once a day and in the end of the week basically having it capped. (Not to say that Alex and new primals give a little bit too)

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Originally Posted by Cooperal

I'm in full agreement that there's a cap. But I don't think it would be breaking the system if people were just about able to get their i200 weapon in two weeks. Doesn't bother me much just pointing out that key change it would make. Getting 450 a week and getting 500 is only the difference between getting a full set (6000 esos) in a minimum of 14 weeks or a minimum of 12 in the long run.

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And thats why it is 450. Sure they could do 500, but then they would rasie the price by the same amount. Because its not about the price, it's about the pace that they want.

Also, you realize it only takes 15 days to get the weapon. Not 21. It it was capped at 500, you could have the weapon in 8 days. In two runs today, I alrwady ran into one person with an eso chest.

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Originally Posted by Veritas-Ancora

Seriously. The people who can play the game while they're at work or are unemployed or don't sleep were going insanely elitist and it was becoming an issue. The weekly cap is such a necessity and I hadn't realized how big of one it was until 3.0.


I'm sure 3 months from now we'll be hearing people irritated at the caps and wanting to progress further, but it doesn't help the overall scheme of things. It creates an unfair atmosphere of people who are privileged enough to spend a lot more time in the game, and those who can't.

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Did you literally just say, that it's unfair people got rewarded for putting in more time and effort than you? Because I'm pretty sure, no one ever, woke up and was like "LOL I DON'T HAVE TO WORK TODAY!" And Square Enix was like "LOL here have a THOUSAND FREE TOMES to get you ahead of that Veritas guy while he's busy working, what a loser hahaha"

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Originally Posted by Cooperal

I'm in full agreement that there's a cap. But I don't think it would be breaking the system if people were just about able to get their i200 weapon in two weeks. Doesn't bother me much just pointing out that key change it would make. Getting 450 a week and getting 500 is only the difference between getting a full set (6000 esos) in a minimum of 14 weeks or a minimum of 12 in the long run.

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It probably wouldn't break the system, but it would make progression groups kinda funky, since they've balanced content on the assumption that no one will have weapons for three weeks.

It also doesn't break the game to keep it at 3 weeks.

So it wouldn't break the game to give it to you in 2, but it also doesn't accomplish anything by giving it to to you in 2. Even though it wouldn't break the game, I don't see the point in going out of their way to redesign it if there isn't a problem to be fixed.

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Originally Posted by Cuddlepaws

Did you literally just say, that it's unfair people got rewarded for putting in more time and effort than you? Because I'm pretty sure, no one ever, woke up and was like "LOL I DON'T HAVE TO WORK TODAY!" And Square Enix was like "LOL here have a THOUSAND FREE TOMES to get you ahead of that Veritas guy while he's busy working, what a loser hahaha"

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yea, while I agree caps are needed to stem fully gearing in raid level gear. OP sounds like a complainer "Why does HE get better gear than me just because he has more free time and was able to put in more effort!? That's not fair~"

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Originally Posted by Medieval

yea, while I agree caps are needed to stem fully gearing in raid level gear. OP sounds like a complainer "Why does HE get better gear than me just because he has more free time and was able to put in more effort!? That's not fair~"

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Read the OP's post again. He wasn't complaining about other people being better geared, he was complaining about better-geared people chewing him out for not being as geared as they were despite the fact that the gear has been available for a relatively short period of time, even though he was adequately geared for the content he was running.

If people want to no-life a game to get further than you so be it? Why does it bother you so much?