So, I'm REALLY liking the new PvP mode. Dynamic, and engaging, as well as an interesting map. (Now if only people could master the phrase "Fall back, stop feeding them kills, lol")
I REALLY hope we see more love for PvP in the future. Perhaps more maps, varied objectives, and modes without GC restrictions. Even if they argue "lore" for battles in the flats, its 10 lines of dialog to say "The (Blah) is hosting a contest of arms! Magic will ensure no one dies. Sign up here!"
There are so many things they could do. Free for all in an instanced Ul'Dah or Gold Saucer. Capture the flag with two "Castrums" set up opposing sides. A mode in which A and S ranks spawn on a map, and teams get points for killing each other, or damaging the monsters, but the monsters also fight back. Duels in the gladiatorial arena!
Those are just off the top of my head. I know PvP isn't a "focus" for ARR, but that doesn't mean it can't be made even better then it is now. I might even argue that since it isn't a focus, the developers could take greater risks without damaging the core game.
(Maybe if we all like and post in this thread, and convince them we like PvP, we'll get more PvP)
Discuss!
Really enjoying new PvP
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07-24-2015, 09:09 AMMatthiasSReally enjoying new PvP
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07-24-2015, 09:12 AMGalaticus
I'm enjoying the new PvP as well. I've already capped esoterics for the week on Seal Rock alone. I like the idea of earning currency for PvP not that I need any incentive to play it, its just an added bonus for me.
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07-24-2015, 09:19 AMTonkra
posted this in an other thread .. but hoping for a new pvp mode (or even pvp openworld area) just like the PVP concept art they once drew when ARR was in development:
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07-24-2015, 09:27 AMEul
I tried it last time and it's pretty nice, semi secure and semi savage. But what surprised me is the cometeor takes 3/4 of my HP o_o (I'm healer) usually at savage it only take 1/3 damage.
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07-24-2015, 10:39 AMLucki
I enjoy it myself as well. Can finally PvP aggressively as my MNK. And the gear rewards from the achievements that we get on a amount of wins we earn looks bad ass (IMO). Been in nearly 900 matches of frontlines. Another few hundreds for the rewards won't be that big of a deal xD
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07-24-2015, 10:51 AMulti_19
Capping a center fort and all 3 groups trying to capture it and hold it would be the funnest. Hope for this one day:D
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07-24-2015, 11:22 AMKukajoo
im wondering how long it will take to hit rank 45-47
im rank 14 now it's been about a day and a half so hopefully within the week/month
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07-24-2015, 11:25 AMKiara1I dont know if they boosted exp, but it took me 3 months, 10 games a day to go from 15 to 40Quote:
Originally Posted by Kukajoo
but that was before they added silly personal lb, I haven't touched pvp since :c -
07-24-2015, 11:39 AMKukajoodo you happen to remember how much exp you were making on average per game?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiara1
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07-24-2015, 11:41 AMNalien
I think Seal Rock is perhaps my favorite addition to PvP, certainly makes up for 48-Secure being removed and makes up for Slaughter being... Slaughter... (OK, 24-Slaughter has grown on me)
Nothing particularly accurate, but I've gone from Rank 44 to Rank 46 off 34 matches since Seal Rock hit (~20 of those were on Tuesday), to give you an idea of how long the higher Ranks take to level.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kukajoo
Roughly speaking, Rank 1 to 50 can either take you 2/3s of a year doing only the Duty Roulette, or it can take you 5~10 weeks if you do 10~20 matches a day. That's if you do the Roulette ever day, with a 300 EXP average, but completely omitting the Challenge Log bonuses. Given you're already Rank 14 already, I'd say a month or two at the most. -
07-24-2015, 11:46 AMKiara1No sorry,Quote:
Originally Posted by Kukajoo
There is challenge log exp now, and there is roulette exp too, so it should be faster now I reckon. -
07-24-2015, 11:46 AMWellFooled
Just wanted to drop by and say that I've really been enjoying it too. So long as the queue stay strong i won't so much as touch a dungeon roulette for tomestones.
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07-24-2015, 11:56 AMDittoIt's something like this basically. Going from Rank 1 - 50.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kukajoo
1st Place- 556 matches
2nd Place- 741 matches
3rd Place - 1,111 matches
This doesn't include the roulette bonus, nor does it include the bonus exp you get from from consecutive losses, or challenge log exp. Also, your match amount may be all over the place depending on your 1st/2nd/3rd place ratio. The roulette Exp helps, but in the grand scheme, 400 exp is not a lot at all. Not when you need a total of 222k Exp for rank 50. And as far as the challenge log goes for frontlines, that's an extra 435 exp a week. Again, not a lot at all.
In other words, it's going to take a looooong time. Or, it's going to take a slightly shorter time if you decide to live inside of the Frontlines for hours on end, all day every day until you're rank 50.
I do enjoy the PvP, and I'm aiming for the rank 50 gear as well, but just thinking of the amount of matches I need to do just to get there, it's demotivating. -
07-24-2015, 12:06 PMKukajooi must say, this is going to be the most work ive ever done just for glamour hahaQuote:
Originally Posted by Ditto
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07-24-2015, 12:12 PMStrejdaTom
Yea, it is fun. PvP needs a lot of work but atleast they made one good step.
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07-24-2015, 01:00 PMSynestraIts ALOT faster to go from 45 to 50 than it is from 40 to 45, 45-46 was like 11.8k or so and 46-47 is only 12k so the exp jump is pretty much non-existant on new ranks. Also thanks to less than 5min ques peoples are generally making more pvp exp than before as ques could take hours in 2.XX era.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ditto
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07-24-2015, 01:16 PMPotatoes
it's alright
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07-24-2015, 02:32 PMAlphaFox
Personally I am just grinding it out till I can get the PvP gear to glamour. Then im dropping it like a bad habit, bored me to no end. =/
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07-24-2015, 11:01 PMMatthiasSDo you think there is any PvP content you would enjoy, or are you more of a PvE fan?Quote:
Originally Posted by AlphaFox
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07-24-2015, 11:04 PMTonkrawell maybe because she is a healer.Quote:
Originally Posted by MatthiasS
But i myself do prefer openworld pvp (in seperate PVP regions with keep sieges etc.) over instanced playround fights. -
07-24-2015, 11:17 PMHyristSE is opposed to the Gank/Prey mechanic in open world PvP, in MMORPGs. You most likely won't see open world PvP here. I do agree with their view in this regard. Being hounded by someone on the opposing faction strips away desire to play the game. The idea of PvP as sort of a team sport has much greater appeal to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tonkra
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07-24-2015, 11:29 PMAlphaFoxI prefer PvE more, I always stuck to PvE servers cus I have zero interest in really fighting against other people. Honestly can't say there is any PvP stuff I would enjoy, I get angry to much, least on the upside when I have 23 other people the effect of losing isn't as enraging.Quote:
Originally Posted by MatthiasS
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07-25-2015, 12:14 AMMatthiasSWhy are Lalafel always the angriest?Quote:
Originally Posted by AlphaFox
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07-25-2015, 12:20 AMAlphaFoxSmall body, small temper :PQuote:
Originally Posted by MatthiasS