Alexander (Savage) predictions

Accuracy requirements significally upped for all turns.
A1: Both bosses show up at start, have more HP and hit harder, there are more adds, and more rockets drop at the same time in different locations. Possibly some new mechanics.
A2: Overwhelming 8th and 9th enemy waves added, 3 bombs drop at the same time.
A3: Two tether pairs, more often knockbacks, 2-3 twisters, slimes have much more HP.
A4: 4-5 orb chains, healer debuff lasts longer and ticks harder, possibly 4 legs instead of 2, two mobs inside quarantine.

Whats your new mechanics predictions?

Sephiroth shows up and kills your healers.

Maybe A1's Faust will be harder/ more of a DPS check? It'l be interesting because if you can barely beat him then there's no way you can beat the boss.

There were some runs I was in where Faust wasn't killed fast enough and the tank(s) died. Eitherway, it'll be a nice, gated, dps check

Don't forget that in A1 you'll have to tank swap every time they go untargetable.

More people will die to Faust and ask me why I did that to them

Lots of crying to "nerf it"

Each boss will randomly spawn between 3 and 15 "nerf plz" threads on the Official Forums.

Additional threads will spawn as these cycle off the front page.

A1: faust, and his adds will hit harder, preventing the team from ignoring adds.
Oppressor's proximity damage buff will be permanant, and they will hit harder. new mechanics added (?). spider adds will require less debuff stacks to get the effect, 3k tonze missile will wipe if it lands, and have a tighter dps check.
A2: everything hits harder. Jagd dolls buff eachother. spider tanks might have mechanics like dreads from turn 4.
A3: edge probably will guarantee your death if you land in it, human form will probably always require a tank swap. all mechanics less forgiving. vortex form adds might act like ifrit ex nails.
A4: i don't even want to think about it.

Wouldn't be surprised if perpetual ray is almost a 1-shot unstunned.

I do not envy the people that will be doing A4 savage.

I don't think A2 will have more waves. But with damage and health increases, we'll most likely need strategic vuln buffs and both gobwalkers snaring and stunning them.
In A3, I think in tornado phase the pool in the center will be larger and deadlier, making it more difficult to pick up the tether.

Possible savage mechanics:

• A1:
  1. Faust has more hp and requires that DpS split to pare down adds while still burning Faust.
  2. Oppressor and 0.5 apply a Bismark EX snake phase style debuff after landing, forcing random pairings on targets.
  3. 4 bombs launched at the same time. *Scary Possibility* Each set of missiles has 2 that will shrink as normal and 2 that will enlarge instead. Different colored lasers to mark which is which.
• A2:
  1. More waves. Several waves might control tanking locations with Snipers.
  2. More enemy Gobwalkers with some waves having 2 forcing tanks to each grab one or have the tank end up melted.
  3. More bombs forcing both Player Gobwalkers to be used at the same time. Learning how to Recharge will be very important.
• A3
  1. Bludgeoning vulnerability stacks are applied in all humanoid phases forcing more tank swaps.
  2. 3 people get magnetized and linked together during Tornado and final phase.
  3. Two orange tethers at the same time during Tornado phase
• A4:
  1. 4 Legs need to be dealt with. Any of the 4 may steam and require being stunned for Perpetual Ray.
  2. 2 Players getting targeted with 3 lasers or one Player gets targeted with 5 lasers.
  3. Discoid sends out 3 or 4 sets of 3 orbs.
  4. Orbs and dolls at the same time during one phase.

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Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur

Orbs and dolls at the same time during one phase.

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-hiss-

why would you wish that upon us

A1 Phase 1
Tethers added between you and another player, when you go further than 10 yalms apart you die
Divebombs
Tethers added between you and another player + another pair, if you go close to the other pair you die, if you go far away from your pair you die
Divebombs
Twisters show up circling the lasers that you need to lure mobs in to, if you step in twister you die
Divebombs

Phase 2..


Please look forward to it.

I would put money on the hand slaps in A3 not being able to be split between the team, just so SE can have a good laugh every time a group gets to that phase for the 1st time and the tanks wipe the party by facing the hands mid :)

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Originally Posted by MisterLucie

-hiss-

why would you wish that upon us

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I'm not. I'm was just thinking of possible ways they can make the fights nastier/trickier.

Last turn always have divebombs. So, divebombs for A4.

100$ says A1 is going to have the platforms tilt when the oppressors land together, just like leviathan and you have to position yourself to not get hit by the mini causing AOEs as you slide around

dont forget this :

A4 divebombs added.
A4 : touching the outer edge of the area will instakill you.
A4 : 4 players are taken into quarantine (1 tank 1 healer and 2 dps) and instead of a single doll youll face 2 dreadnaugths. other 4 players outside have to handle same amount of orbs as before but each orb places a stack on you.
more divebombs.
boss will randomly do his super aoe phase change move.
even more divebombs
a single meteor will appear over a players head and wipe the raid if it falls onto the boss or a orb or any player. just because reasons.
final set of divebombs.
boss now has 4 legs and uses ATAT sounds from star wars instead. to beat it groups needs to find the hidden snowspeeder on p5 while dodgeing divebombs and then fly around the boss 4 times to cable him to make him fall over.

A2 is one where you can clearly see how Savage can work.

- Some mobs have a "Charge" buff. Completely irrelevant in normal, probably not in Savage
- Fire resistance debuff is a joke in normal, not so in Savage
- Hardhelm and Hardmind constantly spam an AoE that buffs themselves and nearby mobs with defense buffs. Irrelevant in normal, in Savage, these two probably need to be kept away from other mobs.
- You actually need to use the recharge, the tank attacks are far more relevant

A1- after bosses fly up they do divebombs
A2- all the adds to divebombs
A3- LL morphs into twin and does divebombs
A4- divebombs 24/7 while shooting perpetual ray
It isn't a raid without 1 turn having divebombs :)

I think in A1 there will be a tank swap mechanic, or perhaps something similar to BisEXual's adds where the party is divided based on their debuff.

A2 will just be never ending adds. QwQ

A3 I can see their being 4 tethered people instead of 2. They might also all be connected, so you can get 3 + and 1 -, so the 3 + need to stack while the - runs away. 2 damage tethers during the tornado phase because... more tethers.

A4 is probably going to quarantine more people (3 or 4), perhaps have a bigger add in there as well as the little one. More AoEs, more ways to die, more adds, more tether things (there is one currently that is always a dud, so there's going to be 4, I think). While I don't think we'll have actual divebombs, I think we'll have something with the same symbol that we're going to see in every final Alexander boss, LOL.

Super Savage Mode

A1
Faust: Some kind of interaction between Faust and adds. For example Faust stacks have high potency and 5 stacks would make his melee auto-attacks hit for 20k after mitigation. To reduce one stack, players must let one add die to Faust's cleave. Each add dying puts a stack on every other add that increases their attack speed.

• Each wave of adds now consist of two types. One type as we have now, the other type will drop a potency field for DPS and healers to stand in. Standing in the potency field gives you a non-stacking buff increasing your damage done; it also gives you a stacking debuff lasting 1m that increases damage taken. Obviously, if the potency field is placed under a missile, it overwrites the shrinking field and doubles the raid-wide damage done by the missile, i.e. instant wipe.
• Sticky bomb now leaves a puddle permanently. Entering the puddle gives you a bunch of debuffs similar to that of Morbol's stinking breath.
• Tanks get a "Static Electricity" debuff that has a polarity. The two bosses also take on polarity. Boss polarity is randomized each time they take off. Tanking a boss with the same polarity will cause the boss to knock back and stun the tank for 3 seconds and reduce the tank's current enmity by 10% on every auto-attack.

A2

• Hardhelm and Hardmind now gives physical and magic damage immunity respectively.
• Snipers now has no enmity list and targets random players.
• Jagd Doll hits twice as hard, but will stop to charge for 3 seconds during which time if stunned, will remain stunned and take double damage for 30 seconds.
• Soldiers will try to repair Boomtype Gobwalkers and Magitek Gobwidow if they are nearby, each soldier will restore 1% to its target per 3 seconds.
• Bombs will now do double damage, but will also do damage to the enemies.
• Gobwalker suit now start with only half energy and must drain energy from the mechanical enemies or it will not last long enough.

A3

• In Human phase, Living Liquid will start the phase with "Liquify" that turns one random player into a Living Liquid who can now only use 3 different skills to buff "individual" party members: buff HP, buff attack potency, buff heal potency. The player will start with a fixed number of charges (say 20 charges) and using each skill consumes a charge. All skills stack up to 20 (i.e. you can spend all the charges on one person). Liquify form ends at phase transition or when all charges are spent. All buffs last for the duration of the fight, but do not persist through death.
• Hand phase starts with 2 hands. One hand will do physical damage and stack a debuff to lower physical resistance. The other will do magic damage and stack a debuff to lower magic resistance. In other words, tank swap. Phase does not end until both hands are killed. When only one hand is alive, it will stack its debuff at double frequency.
• In Tornado phase, 4 players will get positive and 4 gets negative charge. After a while everyone will do a point-blank AoE around them that does damage to only people with the opposite charge. At every wave of adds, everyone is swirled around to randomize their position as well as their polarity. Any add that reaches the outer ring will turn into a mini-hand that has all the same abilities as the phase 2 hand, except that stacks now always lower magic resistance, and last for 2 minutes.
• In final phase, Living Liquid will start the phase with "Liquify" once. He will also gain abilities of the Tornado phase (4 positive/4 negative charge and PBAoE). Anyone getting hit by the PBAoE of the opposite charge will spawn one mini-hand.

A4

• Discoid now spawns two types of orbs. The yellow orb is as usual, and a new blue orb will instead give you a charge shield. The charge shield at 100% will absorb damage equal to your maximum HP. It will also buff you attack and healing potency as well as TP and MP recovery while it still has charge. The charge will slowly wear off even if you do nothing. Taking damage from a yellow orb clears all remaining charge on you.
• Carnage now leaves a stacking Heavy debuff that lasts 30 seconds and decrease yous movement speed by 35% per stack. If you have a charge shield on you when hit by Carnage, you do not get the debuff. However gaining the charge shield after getting the Heavy debuff will not remove the Heavy debuff.
• Carnage Zero gains the same Heavy debuff as Carnage. Splash damage applies a stack of the debuff as well.
• Jagd Dolls will take damage from Carnage and will also get stacks of the Heavy debuff. A Jagd Doll with any number of the Heavy stack will break down and need to repair itself for 30 seconds. If stunned during repair, repair progress is reset. There can only be maximum of 3 Jagd Dolls at any given time. Jagd Dolls under repair will also take damage from Discoid's yellow orbs (and destroy the orb). Absorbing a blue orb will repair the Jagd Doll to full health and clear any Heavy stacks.
• Judgement Nisi will do no damage if the player has a charge shield with any % of charge. However that player will deal pulsed PBAoE damage to nearby players and Jagd Dolls under repair, in a radius of 8m for the duration of the judgement.
• Quarantine will always prefer the ST plus a dps who has the charge shield. Quarantine also now has a time limit, after which time if the add is not killed, it will be returned along with the players to the main battlefield, in full health plus a "Vaccine" buff that will cause its attacks to do double damage to people with charged shields. The add will also ignore enmity and focus on the nearest player who has the charged shield.
• Perpetual Ray will always target people who have no charge shield. It will also do zero damage on people with the charged shield and will charge the shield to full instead.

I predict the casuals will whine that Alexander Savage is too hard and demand nerfs.

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Originally Posted by Yumi_umi

A1- after bosses fly up they do divebombs
A2- all the adds to divebombs
A3- LL morphs into twin and does divebombs
A4- divebombs 24/7 while shooting perpetual ray
It isn't a raid without 1 turn having divebombs :)

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It's not as I dislike divebombs, but please I want to see something new for the new raids. Divebombs are just boring and don't make something hard at all.

We need something new and refreshing.

1: Yoshi P lies about the difficulty scaling, and Alexander Savage is as hard as BCOB.