When are more housing plots coming?

Sooo, my girlfriend and I got married ingame now and we were thinking about buying us a house. When I took a look around in the three housing area's, I came to the conclusion that there isn't even one plot open anymore...

Anyone knows if Square is planning to add more plots? Heck, a flat would be nice too :p

When SE finds a promotion for servers at 50% of their price or something.

Maybe when we get the EU servers in or around 3.1 they will bring more housing then. That is the only time in the near future i can see them added.

I'd be happy with a very small "garden/stable" plot option without a house. It really bums me out that I can't do any gardening or chocobo coloring or racing without access to property. :-(

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Originally Posted by Velisra

I'd be happy with a very small "garden/stable" plot option without a house. It really bums me out that I can't do any gardening or chocobo coloring or racing without access to property. :-(

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Well if your part of a FC and they give you access to gardening and stuff, thers always that way at least, but ye I never bought a house either and got a ton of seeds I got stockpiled on my retainers taking up so much inventory :(

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Originally Posted by Dimitrias

Well if your part of a FC and they give you access to gardening and stuff, thers always that way at least, but ye I never bought a house either and got a ton of seeds I got stockpiled on my retainers taking up so much inventory :(

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Oh I know, but we just have a family FC, and are hoping to buy property for it when it becomes available. I'm very much a solo player, and don't really want to deal with the stuff that goes along with being in an FC that's not just family only. :-)

Our small FC has about 10 million gil in our bank that we are saving for a house. But it sucks that there is not one single plot available for us to purchase on Diablos

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Originally Posted by Veilqa

Our small FC has about 10 million gil in our bank that we are saving for a house. But it sucks that there is not one single plot available for us to purchase on Diablos

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And that's my biggest concern: Our "family FC" consists of three people, one who still plays WoW more than FF, another who will be too busy to play much of anything when her semester starts in August, and me. We have more Gil between us than I thought we would already, but it's not THAT much. I worry that even if/when more plots are made available, we still won't be able to get one. :-(

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Originally Posted by Velisra

And that's my biggest concern: Our "family FC" consists of three people, one who still plays WoW more than FF, another who will be too busy to play much of anything when her semester starts in August, and me. We have more Gil between us than I thought we would already, but it's not THAT much. I worry that even if/when more plots are made available, we still won't be able to get one. :-(

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Cheapest smalls go for around 4 million, not much between 2-3 players.

It sucks, I had a small FC house and decided to sell it. Thought SE was going to add new housing to Ishgard in 3.0, wish I would have kept my house. So I'm hoping when they add new wards I can get a S/M.

So it's since been removed, but I accidentally stumbled across {Allegan Manors} and {Allegan Markets} in the auto translator.

We joked in my FC that SE was going to turn Coil into apartments. Now I'm thinking the Habisphere in Azys Lla is also a good candidate for an apartment building in the future.

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Originally Posted by Catwho

So it's since been removed, but I accidentally stumbled across {Allegan Manors} and {Allegan Markets} in the auto translator.

We joked in my FC that SE was going to turn Coil into apartments. Now I'm thinking the Habisphere in Azys Lla is also a good candidate for an apartment building in the future.

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You mean the places in the frontlines ?

Whenever SE can put up more servers or decides to experiment with/impliment instance housing

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Originally Posted by lololink

You mean the places in the frontlines ?

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Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

I totally forgot about those! Thanks for clearing that up.

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Originally Posted by Colorful

Cheapest smalls go for around 4 million, not much between 2-3 players.

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If they're not gone within 10 minutes.

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Originally Posted by Nadirah

If they're not gone within 10 minutes.

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Yep, I saw what the prices were when housing was first released, so that's what I've been aiming at, but that's my OTHER concern--even if we have the gil, getting a plot will be sketchy at best.

Yoshi-P has stated a few times before that they were working to expand upon the current houses that are already bought rather than add in more housing. Considering that they have never added anymore spaces inside the houses but flooded us with furniture, it's definitely an update I look forward to.

They did mention something about Ishgard housing but they also noted that it wouldn't be out before they found a way for people who had a house to basically be able to move to Ishgard without selling/abandoning their houses (and having to buy them again).

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Originally Posted by Ophie-Mio

Yoshi-P has stated a few times before that they were working to expand upon the current houses that are already bought rather than add in more housing. Considering that they have never added anymore spaces inside the houses but flooded us with furniture, it's definitely an update I look forward to.

They did mention something about Ishgard housing but they also noted that it wouldn't be out before they found a way for people who had a house to basically be able to move to Ishgard without selling/abandoning their houses (and having to buy them again).

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With respect, that does nothing but piss off those without a house even more. Less than 1% of all players in the game can own a house because there are so few plots available. So expanding those houses already purchased is just insulting to everyone else waiting for more plots.

Some housing system this is. It EXCLUDES the vast majority of players from it. I know that probably no one intends this, but every time this is discussed, those with personal houses generally come across as smug, as in talking about expansions of the home they already have while 99% of the population can't even buy one because there are no plots available.

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Originally Posted by Kosmos992k

With respect, that does nothing but piss off those without a house even more. Less than 1% of all players in the game can own a house because there are so few plots available. So expanding those houses already purchased is just insulting to everyone else waiting for more plots.

Some housing system this is. It EXCLUDES the vast majority of players from it. I know that probably no one intends this, but every time this is discussed, those with personal houses generally come across as smug, as in talking about expansions of the home they already have while 99% of the population can't even buy one because there are no plots available.

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This x100! The players that already own a house will be the one's benefitting it seems....

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Originally Posted by Kosmos992k

With respect, that does nothing but piss off those without a house even more.

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With respect to me? To who? All I said was that SE was going to focus on enhancing the current houses rather than adding new ones. Because my FC has a house (got it when there were only FC housing), I mentioned that I was happy about that since SE hasn't done anything with regards to our issues with housing for ages. So I'm sorry that my statement pissed off people without houses.

But here's the thing, housing comes down to two sides. One without houses and those with. Both sides have their issues. One side doesn't have a house and SE has been recently more catered to that side in terms of adding houses. On the other side, there's the ones who DO have houses. People were complaining for ages now about how little decorating space the houses provided for sometimes 50 mil a house...but SE has been busy with adding houses instead. Leaving the other side to rot or giving us things like retainers on the lawn that just take away more space.

I'm sorry that I came off as smug for getting to enjoy an update for housing that actually is catered towards my side of the situation. I'm sorry that anyone with a house can't come into a thread like this and lay down a fact without people going into an uproar.

Housing in general in this game is whack. Inventory space is also whack. It's all sharing the same issues in that there's not enough space for what they want to do. Both sides of this issue have a say on it though. Having a house doesn't make housing in general more awesome. Having a house comes with a different set of complaints compared to your issues. But even in threads where people complain about how limited the houses are, there's always some homeless person coming into it and saying that we have no right to complain because we at least have one.

So if we come into these threads and somehow come off smug, naturally it has to be said that you come off as whiny. I didn't come in here smug. I came in here with facts and some optimism that when they got done with what our side wanted, they would go back to the expansion/addition of wards.

Like it or not, the same issue that's affecting me is affecting you in another way. They can't easily expand my house. They can't easily expand the ward to make yours.

Ps. I still approve of the fact that SE should have made it so that a month of not signing in should relinquish the plots. There are at least four houses near mine that are sitting practically empty since when I bought mine a year ago.

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Originally Posted by Jacosta

This x100! The players that already own a house will be the one's benefitting it seems....

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You are ignoring what I said about what comes after that update. That after they expand upon the current space for the current housing, they are looking into the Ishgard ward. That's more housing. So even though people will uproot their houses and move them to Ishgard (as SE has said they want to implement), that means that whoever didn't want to move that's a space in Ishgard. And whoever did move, that's a plot in an old ward.

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Originally Posted by Ophie-Mio

They did mention something about Ishgard housing but they also noted that it wouldn't be out before they found a way for people who had a house to basically be able to move to Ishgard without selling/abandoning their houses (and having to buy them again).

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Why should this even be a consideration? Players with houses already have houses; they don't need to be catered to and coddled any more than they already are. If SE releases Ishgard housing (which they've said they have no plans to) the only method that should be made available for "transferring" is abandoning your old house and buying the new one. Present housing owners get far enough preferential treatment as is; they don't need any more.

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Originally Posted by Velisra

I'd be happy with a very small "garden/stable" plot option without a house. It really bums me out that I can't do any gardening or chocobo coloring or racing without access to property. :-(

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What does racing have to do with owning a house???? The racing choco's are limited only to the golden saucer.

I really would like more housing plots. My FC had a medium house on Mateus but I had to server switch. We created a new FC and are currently saving for a new house, or was, until we found there were no plots left on Cerberus.

I wouldn't mind if housing was purely aesthetic but it's not and we are missing out on things just because there's not enough plots. Not to mention some of the plots most likely belong to inactives. We wouldn't mind saving for months and paying a LOT of gil if it meant we could have one. Nobody is selling them either.

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Originally Posted by Intaki

If SE releases Ishgard housing (which they've said they have no plans to) the only method that should be made available for "transferring" is abandoning your old house and buying the new one. Present housing owners get far enough preferential treatment as is; they don't need any more.

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Lemme just...drop this here...http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post3128944

#64 clearly has your answer.

It's a consideration because they realize that people who drop 50 mil on a house and would like to move to a brand-new area should probably need to be considered. Or no option can be implemented? They can just buy another house and then someone can have 2 houses. Pick which you prefer.

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Originally Posted by WinterLuna

I wouldn't mind if housing was purely aesthetic but it's not and we are missing out on things just because there's not enough plots. Not to mention some of the plots most likely belong to inactives. We wouldn't mind saving for months and paying a LOT of gil if it meant we could have one. Nobody is selling them either.

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This I agree with completely. I imagine a lot of people wouldn't mind houses not being available if they could build an airship at their local airship port in the cities. Choco dyeing could be available at the actual choco stables in the cities as well. Gardening done in instances at the Botanist guild. If they tied in housing things to actual other areas, housing would be less of a thing.

If you want to move your ass to Ishgard, you should *have* to buy it. None of this crap of moving it for free. You want to relocate, you pay for it.

I think what they're looking for is more like how EQ2 handles moving to new residences. When you click on the door from the inside, you have an option to pack your crap in a moving crate and move it to a new residence. This was done automatically when you moved, because purchasing a new place originally had you relinquish your first home.

Now you can have I think 5? Or it was when I last played. I have so many houses....

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Originally Posted by Ophie-Mio

people who drop 50 mil on a house and would like to move to a brand-new area should probably need to be considered.

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Why? They knew exactly what they were buying when they spent that money; if they are not satisfied with the value of their purchase, why did they make the purchase in the first place?

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Originally Posted by IceWing

What does racing have to do with owning a house???? The racing choco's are limited only to the golden saucer.

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Weeellll... I'm kinda still new at the game, and I thought there was a quest you had to do before you could race chocobos, and that you couldn't get that quest unless you had a house... or a stable... or... something like that?

Color me clueless still I guess! :-) What I said about the rest of it is, afaik, accurate though. Can't garden or dye the chocobos without property, right?

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Originally Posted by Velisra

Can't garden or dye the chocobos without property, right?

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Correct.. unless your FC has a house, then you can use that one.

I put up a PF tonight looking to buy a house, I got some crazy /t prices for a small house. Had 4 people tell me 20 mil LMAO! I can wait until new wards.

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Originally Posted by Intaki

Why? They knew exactly what they were buying when they spent that money; if they are not satisfied with the value of their purchase, why did they make the purchase in the first place?

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What are you talking about? It's not anything even close to not being satisfied with the value of the purchase. Are you being daft on purpose?

When a new area is created, it's only good business to think that people with houses want to get a piece of that too WITHOUT buying ANOTHER house. Or worst yet, just buying another house on top of the one they own just because it's Ishgard. It's SE precisely recognizing that people value their houses but also want to enjoy newly created areas. To help alleviate the burden (because SE knows the houses are expensive) they would rather create a system to make it so that people can move rather than just kill the plots.

I myself thought about Ishgard housing back when it wasn't a thing and knew that buying a whole new house for the FC after abandoning the one we currently have was not going to happen. I'm not like some people who literally have 3-4 houses all by themselves.

Once again, it's not a matter of me knowing the value of my purchase, it's about SE realizing that old house owners would want to go to Ishgard too and they aren't limiting us. They know that houses are not disposable to a majority of those who purchase them.

Speculation abound, we have no idea if this treats the plot like normal or resets the value of it to its highest price either. So if someone left, you now have to pay the highest price for a house. If they moved and the plot remained the same, it benefits all.

While this may not be an update that YOU in particular see any merit to, SE is taking a step to improve housing in a different way. As I said before, it sucks that they aren't adding in new wards/plots every five seconds for the droves of people that will just quit in a week, but stop being obtuse to the benefits of this in general.

Should you ever get a house and some new expansion came out with a new ward and you wanted to move, you would love to take advantage of the Moving feature rather than pay 5-50 mil all over again. Don't lie and say you wouldn't.

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Originally Posted by Ophie-Mio

But here's the thing, housing comes down to two sides. One without houses and those with. Both sides have their issues. One side doesn't have a house and SE has been recently more catered to that side in terms of adding houses.

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Oh yes, two groups. Haves and have nots. I'm not even going to give the rest of your reply the dignity of a response. The entitlement of theHaves is of no interest to the have nots. It's a good illustration of the 1% vs everyone else though.

I hope we get some new FC plots in 3.05.

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Originally Posted by Arkista

I hope we get some new FC plots in 3.05.

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That's like kicking the can down the road.

When those plots get take we will be back at square one.

The upper bound of the number of players that want a house is the entire server population.

Uhm, ophie... You'll still have to buy the place.

The moving bit is for furnishings that can't be picked up and moved, for example the aetherytes.

I said it in the other thread and I'll say it here, the entire limited housing plot thing is a mess in the first place. It's not like people are asking for houses for free, plenty of us have the money, there just isn't enough plots to go around.

My own opinion on it: If you the player or your FC have the gil, you should be able to get a house, period. I'd love to see them add a one house per account limit and while they're at it, release the properties belonging to inactive players.

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Originally Posted by Bishop81

That's like kicking the can down the road.

When those plots get take we will be back at square one.

The upper bound of the number of players that want a house is the entire server population.

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Indeed.

I'm quite surprised that SE has failed to do something as common sense as make personal housing instanced. It's fine to keep FC housing the way it is, but there should be an option for personal housing that you pay X amount of gil for and then you essentially get your own small instance. Wildstar has a great personal housing system. You get a fairly big area to build your house and you can choose who to invite or give general permissions. It's quite perfect, actually.

SE should take a hint and do the same.

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Originally Posted by Bishop81

That's like kicking the can down the road.

When those plots get take we will be back at square one.

The upper bound of the number of players that want a house is the entire server population.

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Well I wish I could go back in time, sold my FC house like 4 months ago. Thought we would have had Ishgard housing at 3.0 launch.