Relic weapon.

I'm gonna start leveling my sch and whm. Would it be advisable to get the relic weapon done and just burn through it or just say screw it? I do not mind the grind but if I can save some time and my party some hardship with my heals Im willing to do it. ;D
Thanks for the advice!

The relic weapon (after going through hell and 10 mil gill in materia) finishes at lvl 135. This was great before heavensward and even beats the raid weapon at the time. Now that the expansion is out, it carried me nearly to 60. On a lvl 135 weapon. Its very powerful, however no longer is relevant, at this moment. Until we see what happens with the relic weapon, the current ones are not worth the trouble.

You could do it for the achievement though, just get the first stage i think?

At this point, I would only do the ARR relic questline all the way through if you want the title (Z) or the weapon for glamour. You can generally replace the weapons around level 55 or 56 (though weapons at that level are not yet significantly better), and if you really want a solid weapon that will last you until that point, you're better off getting some people together to get an Encrypted Tomestone and a Carbontwine (or just do the weekly quest for two weeks for that) or putting together a group to farm T13 for a bit.

Check your server prices for materia first if you want usable stats on it. It costs around less then 500k to make a fresh relic weapon on my server now as materia prices have dropped more than 90% of what they used to be.

It's a nice glamour to have for the future though. In addition, there has been some talk of getting a head start in the next relic line if you complete the full Zodiac Zeta upgrade for your specific weapon/class. :0 I wouldn't recommend getting the weapon at the moment if you're using it for actual use since the new level cap is 60, and that staff will only really last you until level 55.

I really hope I get some kind of reward on the new relic though, I worked so hard. Please, let me transfer over the melds or something! Or no grinding for first phase of new relic? Even that small of a reward I would be happy with.

I did like the first basic steps where you get the basic weapon and then use 3 of something to make it glow. It's good for glamour.

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Originally Posted by keyburz

The relic weapon (after going through hell and 10 mil gill in materia) finishes at lvl 135. This was great before heavensward and even beats the raid weapon at the time. Now that the expansion is out, it carried me nearly to 60. On a lvl 135 weapon. Its very powerful, however no longer is relevant, at this moment. Until we see what happens with the relic weapon, the current ones are not worth the trouble.

You could do it for the achievement though, just get the first stage i think?

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A relic costs no where near 10 mil gil at this point. The only barrier to it is now time (significantly less than previously). I've been working on mine casually for Sch because it's pretty and I'll use it as a glamour and I should have plenty of time to do it by the time 3.1 and the new one comes for whatever tiny bonus it gives.

Glamour is always worth it ^_~

i grinded a second nexus for my whm before 3.0, just for glamour xD (not that bad, was able to skip the novus ^^)

Would it be worth getting a relic weapon for your main class for the "advantage" on the 3.1 relic???

The scholar relic is good even at lvl 59 since scholar weapons from new dungeons are useless if you meld the relic with crit.

Only get the Relic for the achievement or if you want it and don't complete the quest unless you want to waste time or just need more to do. YOu can easily just get the Poetic Weapon and that will tide you over until you get Dungeon drop weapons and then your Law weapon then going into your Bismark or Ravana Weapon...completing the whole relic quest would still take you a really long time even with the changes they have made and you would also spend a ton of money on it potential if you get the best stats.

Relic is an easy grind now but its not very relevant anymore. Do it if you have some time to kill...or if you really want it as glamour

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Originally Posted by Khyan

The scholar relic is good even at lvl 59 since scholar weapons from new dungeons are useless if you meld the relic with crit.

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They nerfed the hell out of secondary stats, crit included. 50 crit reportedly boosts your crit rate by an astounding... 1.165%
Meanwhile, the level 59 codex has 14 more Mind than the Last Resort Zeta. That's not useless.

At any rate, once you hit 60 you can just toss your old book out, and hitting 60 is faster and cheaper than getting a Relic together.

Wait, does the relic weapon look different or glow more after the initial state? I got the finished one and use 3 of some item I forgot to make it glow for glamour. Does it glow more afterwards?

The nexus version is fairly easy to obtain, yes?

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Originally Posted by Dyegov

Wait, does the relic weapon look different or glow more after the initial state? I got the finished one and use 3 of some item I forgot to make it glow for glamour. Does it glow more afterwards?

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the stage immediately after that, atma does not glow at all but is a different color. the stages after continue to add more glows till zodiac when it changes appearance entirely, then the zeta glows and is dyeable.

I started working on a relic for an alt class recently, since it seemed like leveling an alt would be much slower without all the quests. I got a level and a half so far JUST doing the fates and dungeons and whatever I needed for the relic. I feel like it may be more worth for an alt since the levels will go slower and you won't be replacing it quite so quickly.

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Originally Posted by Dyegov

Wait, does the relic weapon look different or glow more after the initial state? I got the finished one and use 3 of some item I forgot to make it glow for glamour. Does it glow more afterwards?

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The relic has varying degrees of glowiness depending on the stage. The only stage where it doesn't glow at all is the Atma stage because, lore wise, it's no longer the original relic but the starting point of the Zodiac quest (which involves shoving all kinds of aether into your relic and spiritbonding it so you can convert it into a super materia). The Nexus stage has the most glowiness and still retains the original form. The forged Zodiac weapon starts off dull (like the relic), but gets a unique effect once it hits the Zeta stage.

So far in the chain we have
Original Relic -> Zenith (max power reached for normal Relic)
Atma -> Animus -> Novus -> Nexus (max power reached for advanced Relic)
Zodiac -> Zeta (max power reached for Zodiac)

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Originally Posted by Kietsu

They nerfed the hell out of secondary stats, crit included. 50 crit reportedly boosts your crit rate by an astounding... 1.165%
Meanwhile, the level 59 codex has 14 more Mind than the Last Resort Zeta. That's not useless.

At any rate, once you hit 60 you can just toss your old book out, and hitting 60 is faster and cheaper than getting a Relic together.

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Still prefer more crit and less mind than no crit. But I see your point though.

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Originally Posted by Gist

Would it be worth getting a relic weapon for your main class for the "advantage" on the 3.1 relic???

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bumping this

The whm relic is pretty. The rest of them I threw away to prevent any more wasted time.

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Originally Posted by Khyan

Still prefer more crit and less mind than no crit. But I see your point though.

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Why would you ever take crit over mind?

Crit is useless on a healer.

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Originally Posted by BushWookie

Why would you ever take crit over mind?

Crit is useless on a healer.

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You're right. Totally useless on a scholar. lol.

http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Adloquium

Of course mind is better since it's a major stat, but as a optional stat, crit is still the best option for scholar. Even more in HW with the new skills.

The scholar weapons from new dungeon aren't worth it (51 - 59 dungeons) if you have last resort zeta with full crit/det.
I changed my weapon only at level 60 even if I had all scholar books from new dungeon (51-59, not 60). My zeta was melded with accuracy/crit and det.

The crit nerf is essential, it's just an overall change for new stuff.