Something interesting I noticed in the Aery

What's this doing here?

http://i.imgur.com/BdqN1cx.jpg

I never heard it mentioned in the story that there was Allagan tech in there.

Either it fell from Dalamud, or Nidhogg....acquired it in a previous encounter.

Please look forward to it!™

It's likely just a stray fragment of Dalamud that happened to land there. A neat reference to the Calamity, in other words.

One of the things the Guidance Node says is that another dragon broke out of Azys Lla something like 3000 years ago, so maybe that dragon was Nidhogg and he took it with him?

... or it's just an errant chunk of Dalamud. Or something. /shrug.

Yes but we need to relise this, Besides the Aery, did we see anything allaga related someonewhere? west coerthas, hinterlands, forelands. Those areas were somehow luckily, and are still unharmed ( exept of the snow of ofcourse ), there no pieces of dalalmud anyway. So the aery was so unlucky? or there is something else going behind? Or could be a glitch >-< who knows hahahahahaha

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Originally Posted by Cilia

One of the things the Guidance Node says is that another dragon broke out of Azys Lla something like 3000 years ago, so maybe that dragon was Nidhogg and he took it with him?

... or it's just an errant chunk of Dalamud. Or something. /shrug.

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It is mentioned that Nidhogg never trusted man during the peaceful period. Being captured and held captive for ~2000 years would be enough to make one feel that way. However, I'm hoping that it is one of the two we have yet to meet.

There isn't just a single fragment of some Allagan tech in the Aery, it's actually a complete neurolink broken into several pieces. You can see more of it on the other side of the map around that section. It's fairly safe to assume it has nothing to do with Dalamud (since Dalamud didn't have rings, it had blades and chunks) which certainly lends credence to the theories that Nidhogg was also a captive of Allag at some point in the past.

If Nidhogg had been an Allagan captive then there is no way I could believe, given his personality, that he would still peacefully coincide with man until Ratatoskr was slain. He'd have gone on a man-hating rampage the moment he was free. I mean, let's be honest, if his rage for an event that likely took less than a day is still burning after a thousand years, why would his rage for an imprisonment for an unknown length of time abate any quicker? Not because the Allagans were gone by the time he broke free. Thordan and his ilk were long gone in present day, too, and he still hated Ishgard. He'd have sniffed out every descendant of Allag, no matter how faint, and made them suffer. That is what the Nidhogg we've seen would do.

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Originally Posted by LaurelinKementari

If Nidhogg had been an Allagan captive then there is no way I could believe, given his personality, that he would still peacefully coincide with man until Ratatoskr was slain. He'd have gone on a man-hating rampage the moment he was free. I mean, let's be honest, if his rage for an event that likely took less than a day is still burning after a thousand years, why would his rage for an imprisonment for an unknown length of time abate any quicker? Not because the Allagans were gone by the time he broke free. Thordan and his ilk were long gone in present day, too, and he still hated Ishgard. He'd have sniffed out every descendant of Allag, no matter how faint, and made them suffer. That is what the Nidhogg we've seen would do.

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Hraesvelgr convinced Nidhogg to give the mortals a chance. I think this is why Hraesvelgr so willingly gave up an eye to his brother, since he felt he was partly to blame for the fate that befell his siblings.

If Nidhogg was a prisoner of Allag he would have lived to see their empire collapse and so his rage may have been sated by that. That may be why he became so callous towards Ishgard though; if he were betrayed twice by mortal races millenia apart he may develop the notion that every generation is just as bad... leading him to punish every generation for as long as the city still stands.

Are we positive it belonged to Nidhogg and not Ratatoskr?

I doubt Nidhogg would be as mad at the Allag as he is at the Ishgardians were he captured by them. The main reason he even has such a vendetta against Ishgard is because all the people of Ishgard carry the blood of his sister; He isn't even trying to wipe them out, he is eroding their hope until more and more turn to "heresy" and end up drinking dragon blood, thus becoming dragons.

It's also entirely possible he did lash out against the proto-Ishgardians due to his treatment in Azys Lla (if that even happened). There was a man/dragon war before the Dragonsong War, one which Hraesvelgr and Shiva ended, though if that were the case I'd wonder why the pieces of Allagan tech are still there... They seem recent, and not Dalamud recent, I really can't see a piece of Dalamud hitting the Aery and it still being as it is... OK it has some crazy crystal/stone formations, but that seems more like a dragon nesting thing (and the Aery is Nidhoggs nest), you can see similar formations in a number of places with no sign of Allagan tech...

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Originally Posted by Fenral

Are we positive it belonged to Nidhogg and not Ratatoskr?

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Well... Zenith seems to be Hraesvelgrs domain, the Aery Nidhoggs domain, and based on some side quests, Tharl Oom Khash was Ratatoskrs (and potentially where she was slain), so I'd be 99% certain its related to Nidhogg.

The Aery is clearly described as Nidhogg's lair.