so the AF2 gear?

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07-13-2015, 01:53 PM
raymon

so the AF2 gear?

anybody know when were are gonna get them? been looking forward to it sense they first showed them off.
07-13-2015, 01:57 PM
ElHeggunte

Probably next week when we also get the new tomes and Alexander Savage.
07-13-2015, 02:20 PM
Zumi

Most likely battle classes AF2 will be bought with esoteric tomes. While you buy the crafter af2 with with red scripts.
07-13-2015, 02:28 PM
AckersFury

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Originally Posted by ElHeggunte

Probably next week when we also get the new tomes and Alexander Savage.

tomb gear next week o.O ...i thought it was in a few months..SE need to slow down on all this new gear, the games been out..what 3 weeks...and so far we've already gone from 170>180>190 and tomb/savage gear in another 1/2 week...i mean i love getting new gear as much as the next person, but its starting to get abit silly now
07-13-2015, 02:29 PM
NocX7

Any guesses as to how the new tomes will be acquired?
07-13-2015, 02:30 PM
saber_alter

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Originally Posted by NocX7

Any guesses as to how the new tomes will be acquired?

Sane way as they were before. Roulette, raids, and expert dungeons.
07-13-2015, 02:33 PM
Greven

Probably from Hismena or Sabina, in Idyllshire by exchanging Tomestone of Esoterics that will have a weekly cap.
07-13-2015, 02:36 PM
Kogasan

If it does come out next week that makes me happy. So can't wait for my smn to look like an smn again.
07-13-2015, 02:37 PM
Martin_Arcainess

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Originally Posted by AckersFury

tomb gear next week o.O ...i thought it was in a few months..SE need to slow down on all this new gear, the games been out..what 3 weeks...and so far we've already gone from 170>180>190 and tomb/savage gear in another 1/2 week...i mean i love getting new gear as much as the next person, but its starting to get abit silly now

Yeah pretty much how it was in ARR when the 2 orignal Tomes come out, your AF gear was just 50 and the max at the time was 90 so that was like a 40 iLV gap jump and this starting gear from dungeons is 160 and I'd imagine savage is 200 so same 40.
07-13-2015, 02:39 PM
Airget

They are trying something odd with il this time, by making the levels jump super high. Though to be fair it might just feel like that.

2.0 had 50-90 90=Artifact armor and coil so that was 40+ IL.

3.0 has 160 (dungeon), 170-180 tomes+hunts and now 190=alexander

lv 58=IL145 so lv 60 would've been 150 I think so techincally if we think

50=50 and 60=150 then the jump from 150-190 is the same as the jump from 50-90 it only looks bigger cause of the triple digits.
07-13-2015, 02:42 PM
Kogasan

Btw anyone know when the new relics are coming out?
07-13-2015, 02:44 PM
Exodus-E

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Originally Posted by Kogasan

Btw anyone know when the new relics are coming out?

Most likely for Patch 3.1
07-13-2015, 02:46 PM
Kogasan

When is 3.1 is kinda what I guess I'm really asking wish se would just come out with it and tell us when to expect it.
07-13-2015, 03:10 PM
ruskie

3.1 for relics a ton of other awsome stuff(and the 24 man) will most likely be within 3-4 months time judging by the previous patches - they've also said in the live letter they hope to get the EU datacenter up and running by then as well(otherwise end of the year is their plan for that).
07-13-2015, 03:46 PM
Spawnie

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Originally Posted by Kogasan

If it does come out next week that makes me happy. So can't wait for my smn to look like an smn again.

just dont loose an eye puttin that helmet on O.O
07-13-2015, 03:53 PM
Dualblade

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Originally Posted by Martin_Arcainess

Yeah pretty much how it was in ARR when the 2 orignal Tomes come out, your AF gear was just 50 and the max at the time was 90 so that was like a 40 iLV gap jump and this starting gear from dungeons is 160 and I'd imagine savage is 200 so same 40.

Pretty much this. You had AF gear at 50, dungeon gear at...I think it was 60, I honestly forget now what the intial endgame dungeon gear was. Anyways Darklight was 70, CT had 80, and BCoB/Myth was 90 (Atleast I think Myth was 90, I jumped from 2.1 to 2.45 due to things so I don't completely remember between Darklight and Soldiery.) Either way basically the ilvl jump is very similar to what it was like in 2.0
07-13-2015, 04:12 PM
Daralii

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Originally Posted by Kogasan

If it does come out next week that makes me happy. So can't wait for my smn to look like an smn again.

I can't wait for the dragoon cinematic armor. Square pls.
07-13-2015, 04:37 PM
Ditto

We Dark Knights aren't dark enough without our dark armor. I would also like to be able to get my dark sword, but I guess I can wait for dark 3.1 for that. I need a dark snack, and it's a damn good thing my dark retainer knows just how I like it.

http://i.imgur.com/rGjswJ6.png

But yes I would really like to know when I can have my af. I was hoping it wouldn't be locked behind weekly tomes, because waiting week after week after week just to get your iconic set isn't exactly something I see as fun.

Unless maybe they fix our Darkside animation.

pls SE black flames pls
07-13-2015, 04:48 PM
NoahArks

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Originally Posted by AckersFury

tomb gear next week o.O ...i thought it was in a few months..SE need to slow down on all this new gear, the games been out..what 3 weeks...and so far we've already gone from 170>180>190 and tomb/savage gear in another 1/2 week...i mean i love getting new gear as much as the next person, but its starting to get abit silly now

basicly this. A lot of people aren't even i170 (me included), and now they're already releasing the next set? I'm not expecting it to be above i190, but still...
07-13-2015, 04:49 PM
Dualblade

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Originally Posted by NoahArks

basicly this. A lot of people aren't even i170 (me included), and now they're already releasing the next set? I'm not expecting it to be above i190, but still...

Said gear will have a cap to how fast you can get it, both the bought gear and the Alexander gear. People won't be getting it nearly as fast as Law gear.
07-13-2015, 05:10 PM
NoahArks

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Originally Posted by Dualblade

Said gear will have a cap to how fast you can get it, both the bought gear and the Alexander gear. People won't be getting it nearly as fast as Law gear.

Oh a shocker. A weekly cap. Where have I seen this before? Oh yeah.... everytime new tomes and gear releases. Even with a weekly cap, they're releasing new item levels too fast, and you'll get people screaming higher requirements with each PF. Yesterday I already saw someone screaming for i170 for the second coil, THE SECOND COIL. Even with i142 normal gear you'll have more than enough....
07-13-2015, 05:24 PM
Dualblade

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Originally Posted by NoahArks

Oh a shocker. A weekly cap. Where have I seen this before? Oh yeah.... everytime new tomes and gear releases. Even with a weekly cap, they're releasing new item levels too fast, and you'll get people screaming higher requirements with each PF. Yesterday I already saw someone screaming for i170 for the second coil, THE SECOND COIL. Even with i142 normal gear you'll have more than enough....

If you mean Alexander floor 2, the min ilvl is 170 as set be SE. So not really the players there. Now if you mean Second Coil of Bahamut...that just seems like a wierd person then? Haven't seen something like that on Gilgamesh. That said, again, this is something they already have done when the game first came out. The ONLY content that will need higher then 170 will be Alexander Savage, of which you could have a group in BiS and still not beat it if they aren't up to par skill wise. Some people put too much faith in their gear. Like people who put up much higher ilvl caps in PF then is needed for example.

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Originally Posted by Neri

Maybe he asked i170 as in he wants to get in as undersized party? No point getting i170 in normal pt in second coil there since your lv will be reduced down to 50, and your armor item level will be as well.

Oh right, thats possible didn't even think of that.
07-13-2015, 05:28 PM
Musashidon

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Originally Posted by AckersFury

tomb gear next week o.O ...i thought it was in a few months..SE need to slow down on all this new gear, the games been out..what 3 weeks...and so far we've already gone from 170>180>190 and tomb/savage gear in another 1/2 week...i mean i love getting new gear as much as the next person, but its starting to get abit silly now

just to clear this up, the content was staggered. it is all part of the original update. once estorics comes out and alex hard mode, we won't get new stronger gear till 3.2 (which 3.1 isn't for at least a month or two)

(3.1 will have the 24 man raid but it is normally 10 ilvls below the best gear)

the gear isn't going up fast than normal it just feels that way because of how they are doing it.
07-13-2015, 05:30 PM
Neri

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Originally Posted by NoahArks

Oh a shocker. A weekly cap. Where have I seen this before? Oh yeah.... everytime new tomes and gear releases. Even with a weekly cap, they're releasing new item levels too fast, and you'll get people screaming higher requirements with each PF. Yesterday I already saw someone screaming for i170 for the second coil, THE SECOND COIL. Even with i142 normal gear you'll have more than enough....

Maybe he asked i170 as in he wants to get in as undersized party? No point getting i170 in normal pt in second coil there since your lv will be reduced down to 50, and your armor item level will be as well.
07-13-2015, 05:35 PM
NoahArks

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Originally Posted by Dualblade

If you mean Alexander floor 2, the min ilvl is 170 as set be SE. So not really the players there. Now if you mean Second Coil of Bahamut...that just seems like a wierd person then? Haven't seen something like that on Gilgamesh. That said, again, this is something they already have done when the game first came out. The ONLY content that will need higher then 170 will be Alexander Savage, of which you could have a group in BiS and still not beat it if they aren't up to par skill wise. Some people put too much faith in their gear. Like people who put up much higher ilvl caps in PF then is needed for example.

You still don't see that in the 3 weeks the game is out, they've released 3 types of armor to collect. One being the i170 you need to upgrade. Minimum requirements will be higher, cause people want to finish their runs faster. Compared to 2.x I'm not going to bother keeping up the ilvl up to the standards, so I'll be able to enjoy myself.

I'm going to take my sweet time in getting geared, and if people don't want me in their party, it's not my problem. Neither it's theirs, because SE just keeps releasing new stuff right after eachother, making people want the higher geared players, instead of the slightly lower geared ones.

In 2.x they would also ask for i105+ people for i80-90 content. Heck, if there was a PF up for the final CT, they would all throw it on i115, thinking they would clear it much faster, even though it's a freaking 24-man raid. In all honesty. I wouldn't mind keeping the ilvl up if there were just more things to do than spam one thing over and over being 4-man or 8-man dungeons. If they would just release more 24-man raids I could consider it fun, cause then you can mess around with a group of people. Small groups tend to be uptight, and can't even enjoy a joke or two after even one wipe IN NEW CONTENT.
07-13-2015, 05:45 PM
Dualblade

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Originally Posted by NoahArks

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Maybe its just because I do most of my content via the DF so I don't really see it as much, but for me it rarely has been a problem. Gear up on your own pace, its all good, and its not like every person making a group is going to be putting it at a higher ilvl then is reasonably needed. More so I would assume if you make your own PF groups you wouldn't be! Also for CT...I think there was only one time I saw a group do that, and it was before WoD came out. Don't remember if the ilvl was put high or not.

Anyways, nothing wrong with gearing at your own pace. Do it slow, do it fast, all good in many players book really. As was said by Mushashidon the Estoric/Alex Savage gear will be the best gear for atleast 6 months, with the only new comparable gear being the new 24-man that won't be quite as good, but easier to collect.

Also (again via DF), I've been in many groups that could have quite a good time, making jokes and all that. Yes some people will be very uptight, even in the newest content...but then, there will always be jerks, just as there will always be nice people. Just gotta roll with it.
07-13-2015, 06:44 PM
Sapphic

2.0 launch.

AF1 gear ilvl 50>>Dungeon gear ilvl 60>>Darklight ilvl 70>>Due to CT being delayed ilvl 80 wasnt here at launch, but should have been>>ilvl 90 tomestone gear/First coil.
07-13-2015, 06:47 PM
SakuraMidori

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Originally Posted by AckersFury

tomb gear next week o.O ...i thought it was in a few months..SE need to slow down on all this new gear, the games been out..what 3 weeks...and so far we've already gone from 170>180>190 and tomb/savage gear in another 1/2 week...i mean i love getting new gear as much as the next person, but its starting to get abit silly now

This 100% it's getting sicking now
07-13-2015, 07:03 PM
Rumpelstiltzkin

Oh don't worry because then 3.1 will be 24-man raid so the gear will be obsolete to begin with so you can sit on whatever you get from Alex Savage for another 3-4 months in a game made for strict vertical progression by farming tomes. It is great. Please look forward to it.
07-13-2015, 07:11 PM
WellFooled

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Originally Posted by NoahArks

You still don't see that in the 3 weeks the game is out, they've released 3 types of armor to collect...Compared to 2.x I'm not going to bother keeping up the ilvl up to the standards, so I'll be able to enjoy myself.

Just to reiterate what Musashidon said, because the expansion's initial endgame gear was staggered out its actually much easier on play styles like yours (and mine) than 2.0. Instead of having Ilvl190 gear on day one, SE has given us weeks to enjoy the leveling experience and that also means that those that rushed to end game won't have as large of a gear gap between those of us that took our time.
07-13-2015, 07:12 PM
Waliel

This rate is actually slower than ARR launch, so I don't see what the problem is.
07-13-2015, 08:12 PM
Felis

it is not like SE haven't announced since months that esoteric come with alexander (savage)

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/a...4&d=1429781206
07-13-2015, 08:29 PM
AyameKazama

Don't know why you guys are freaking out

CT was ilvl 80

2.1 had 70 80 90 (two of which were weekly lockouts)

3.0 has 170, 180, and now 190 (one which is a weekly lockout)

if savage alex has a 190 requirement I'd be shocked.

3.1 will be the catch up patch to hit alex faster on a new class/character that'll probably match 180 or 190 ilvl
07-13-2015, 08:34 PM
Adventica6

They said they wanted to give players lots of options to gear up and this is exactly what they are doing, alex normal, savage, law stuff, estoric tomestones, the 24man raid eventually, etc, there will be lots of ways to gear up instead of just repeating the same dungeon over and over again.

people asked for more ways to gear up and here they are, don't ask for something then moan when it's given.
07-13-2015, 09:11 PM
Orbiaus

With so much gear I wonder what the intention is? If AF2 is for new 60s or alts, i'd be happy. Getting the gear for alex faster would be cool. If it's the same as the alex drops or higher? I don't get it.