Story Mode Players

With all the negativity floating around, I want to hear from the people who called for a story mode raid and how they feel this has been implemented.

Because with all the complaining, SE might think people didn't just ask for a Coil Mode Easy (and they might just go back to making only hard stuff, which will spawn more threads here in turn).

Story Mode request with over a hundred upvotes, if you will.

Havent made it to Alexander yet but I'm really happy there is a story mode for it. I didnt even care if there was no gear (glad there is though), I just want to experience the story contained within. Then, when I want a challenge, I will get a static together to challenge the Savage mode for better loot. I wish they did this with Coil but its kinda too late now. I'm from 1.0 and really wanted to see the story in Coil but have never been able to get a group together for it. Once I'm endgame 3.0 with good gear, I will once again attempt to do Coil.

I only hope that the Savage mode Alexander will be the difficult challenge that other players are looking for. Unfortunately there will still be those who complain, No matter what someone does there will be someone else who isnt happy with it. You cant please everyone all the time.

I feel like they made this raid a little too hard for casuals.
Should have kept it dungeon-level difficulty
Especially level 4

I enjoyed it, perfect difficulty for me. Can't say I have much complaints, although the story was incredibly boring. The Illuminati just don't compare to the Allagans and Bahamut.

Thanks for your input!

I haven't gotten there yet, so I can't really say.

I believe the the current difficulty is perfect people are clearing it and seeing the story and as a raider they have listened to the community. Honestly, its better they listen to the people who don't play often and want to see the story because they pay most of the bills compared to hardcore players (perfect example of hardcore cant pay the bill is Wildstar).

Odds are that the people who really wanted a story mode for raids are not ilvl 170 yet and can't even enter yet.

i tried it with df two times but duty got vote abandond two times before i even was able to take a swing at the boss ;p but other then that, PF is already full with entrys like "kill group only join if xp in las phase" and a whole bunch of farmgroups.. i have the feeling its faceroll content because of that, but in three days i can login and play again so then i'll try to enter alexander again and see for myself

It is first day so complaints are expected. People seem to be mad at the fact that the story raid loot system does not cater to them, they need to understand square did not have to make a raid for casual players like myself and others for the story. Coils never had a normal mode and we were still happy for the time. This is for our benefit and something square did extra for us. We also asked for this.

Finished it via duty finder, was absolutely fine. :)
Floor 4 took a few wipes but it is perfectly DFable and chill. Perfect story mode for casuals I think.

...Maybe people should have to earn that story?

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Originally Posted by StrejdaTom

Finished it via duty finder, was absolutely fine. :)
Floor 4 took a few wipes but it is perfectly DFable and chill. Perfect story mode for casuals I think.

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I have to agree. It's a rather easy place...very easy in fact, especially for seasoned raiders. We downed the first 3 parts in under 2 hours. Currently helping a friend finish off his main story so I haven't seen a clear of part 4 yet, but the mechanics behind that one were definitely easier than what we've seen so far from the end of the various Coils.

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Originally Posted by Core1019

...Maybe people should have to earn that story?

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Why should it be gated behind incredibly difficult content (for players without a static anyway)? The content is challenging enough (note: I mean for the average player, not for everyone who's done coil pre-nerf).

GAME NEEDS THREE DIFFICULTIES STILL, THEY'RE ALWAYS CUTTING OUT SOMEBODY WHETHER CASUAL/MIDCORE/HARDCORE!!!

These seemed pretty good and as most people stated it did seem like a good run for casuals and also introducing people who were maybe not into doing raiding content before. The content is quite good took a few tries to finish floor 3 but haven't finished 4 yet since my FC mates wanted to take a break.

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Originally Posted by Ulathskullsplitter

Odds are that the people who really wanted a story mode for raids are not ilvl 170 yet and can't even enter yet.

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Yeah, I'm happy with the option but I'm not even 60 yet :)

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Originally Posted by Core1019

...Maybe people should have to earn that story?

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... what?

Rewards, you earn. Achievements, you earn. But -story-, in a Final Fantasy MMORPG with paid subscription?

On topic, I think the "Normal" mode was decent. I was surprised that it actually dropped items, I thought it would just be something to clear for the story but I'm not complaining. Looking forward to Savage mode.

There wouldn't be any complaints if SE released both Story Mode and Extreme Mode at the same time.

Hopefully the next "level" of Alexander will make it so that both difficulty levels are released at the same time

I personally never asked for an easier raid for casual players, but I do find the difficulty of Alexander normal to be perfect.

I like doing the hard content with static but I also like to play the game just to relax sometimes, and this difficulty is perfect. It's not faceroll, you still have to have a little bit of coordination (especially 4), but it's forgiving enough that if someone makes a mistake, it's not gonna wipe the whole raid and start a rage-war, and they're quite short so if you do have a couple of wipes it's no big deal, just chill and go again.

I think it's also a really good way to ease people into raid content. Coil was probably...rather overwhelming for some people - the difficulty jump from dungeons/CT to coil was pretty huge.

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Originally Posted by PlumpyMcduff

GAME NEEDS THREE DIFFICULTIES STILL, THEY'RE ALWAYS CUTTING OUT SOMEBODY WHETHER CASUAL/MIDCORE/HARDCORE!!!

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I disagree. Other game do this, and what happens is players just never play the easy content unless they are farming materials, and the few that play the hard content only do so until they've got all the loot they wanted. The purpose of the Story mode is so that it's not a pointless "Extra" dungeon that remains optional.

But i think what needs to happen is that "savage" mode's need stricter behaviors that can't be facerolled over by overgearing. The Mechanics have to be played or it's a fail every time. Which is basically how Coil is to begin with.

No comment haven't go there yet, too busy with work.
But most of my friends said it's not that hard.

I just full equip ilvl180 then go there.

Here's the thing: They painted themselves into a corner with Coil. It was tough, Second was tougher, then Final eased up a bit, but still provided a challenge.

And yet some players never even bothered.

Memories of my FC completely ignoring Coil for the relic content (this was Atma/Animus era), leaving me the sole raider in the FC well until SCoB got needed still stings to this day.

I'm grateful there's a challenging-but-not-hardcore, story mode now, as I'm seeing even the most casual players I know WILLING to approach it. I love to raid, so seeing more people try it and grow accustomed to it may encourage them to improve and try the harder stuff. Maybe even Coil someday. . .

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Originally Posted by Colorful

although the story was incredibly boring. The Illuminati just don't compare to the Allagans and Bahamut.

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Yeah the story was rather meh as it has nothing to do with dragonsong war aka main theme of the expansion, where bahamut was the main villian and center of attention in ARR due almost destroying whole world in opening movie. MSQ in ARR was more like a side story and Coil was the real MSQ or atleast thats how i felt it.

I personally like it. I am currently unable to participate in a static due to my work schedule being extremely unstable. I am glad I can enjoy the content and get a little bit of extra loot as I go along. I am content with doing EX primals and "story mode" raids. I have no interest at this point in Savage Alexander. Even if I had time for a static, I believe the days of hardcore raiding are long behind me.

My only complaint really is the current implementation of the loot system. It reminds me of getting the upgrade items at the end of the crystal tower raids. That was a pretty miserable experience grinding those every week.

EDIT: Still yet, I like this new implementation. I feel that it's just hard enough to be fun but not so hard I have to have a static to clear it.

People asked SE delivered. It did upset people but i believe its more the fact that season raiders have to wait another 2 weeks before anything with any sort of difficulty is added. Coming from a player who found coils relatively easy this was just not challenging enough even if it is just a story mode to cater for people who want rewards without work. Victory to the self entitled

As someone that does have a static and tackles the harder content in the game, I actually really love the level that they've tuned these fights to. It's something relaxing that 3-4 members of my static can get together and plug away at in DF. It's fun to have farmable content that you don't necessarily have to be operating at 100% to complete. Sometimes we just wanna laugh and joke and be social, but some of our static members have a tendency to get distracted and derp mechanics when too much extra chatter is going on. This is perfect. xD

I understand the concept of story mode raid and we all want to hold hands and paint rainbows, but it could have been a little bit of a challenge so it at least felt like there was some reward to beating the fight.
At least put it on the same difficulty as the extreme mode primals and not have the content face rolled in an hour.

As someone who does not now and never will have a static (what is a sane schedule like?) I am at the mercy of Duty Finder. Here in the Land of Mortals I think Alexander Story Mode is challenging enough. I'm already running into groups that are vote abandoning on Fist.

I love it, seeing my work times never the same means can't do static so this fill in the gap allot me to lest do story mode.

I use to be in static for coil but left due to couldn't always make it due to work, never got chance to see coil though.

Even though love poke savage mode I know in truth I don't have the time due to work, so I can happy live with story mode, I do love raiding and it fill that raiding spot for me, hope they keep future raids like this.
One for us casual who work unforgiving hours don't get much time to play, one those hard core raiders.
It a nice balance for both.