Kind of getting bored of the follow a specific path to kill x boss and mobs in every dungeon. If you are to, what are some different/new/fun dungeons ideas you have thought of!!? Maybe SE will implement some.
Dungeon Defense!
Instead of us raiding a dungeon, how about the monsters attack something we have to defend!!(lawl hamlet?)
Could work like we have to defend "Gates" or "Check Points" from waves of monsters and if we died we would get responded in the next area waiting for if they broke through(still getting xp if our party ended up killing the wave). At certain points in the wave boss mobs would come through. There would also be traps and gimmicks we could set in the dungeon or activate to hurt the enemies.
Failing to defend the dungeon would just result in not getting the end of dungeon xp or boss xp if they were still alive.
Open World Dungeons/Skirmishes (Instance)
Where we are sent to war or something and have to battle different groups of mobs around an open world map, if were able to push all the mobs back or kill the "General/Leader" we win the war.
imagine something like dynasty warriors.
Non-set path type dungeon.
Dungeon similar to how they are now, but instead of having to kill the bosses in order, we can follow different paths to kill w/e boss we want first/second/third/last. and depending on who or what we kill first they could give different bosses different buffs or debuffs.
Golden Saucer Boss Roulette!
Enter a instance that could be like the golden saucer main event stage and spin a roulette wheel or just have random bosses when you enter, and battle them. Could just use old bosses from dungeons/raids and could even award mgp. I imagine this could be fairly cheap to implement since you could just reuse a lot of resources.
What are some of your ideas? This could even be extended to raids i guess.
Dungeon Ideas!
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07-05-2015, 10:43 AMMolicDungeon Ideas!
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07-06-2015, 03:00 AMSylve
I still just wanna see randomly generated dungeons with bosses selected from a pool of every boss in the game that doesnt have terrain specific mechanics. Naturally scaled to 4/8/24. Loot can be aetherials of an ilvl appropriate to the difficulty you set it to.
Edit: By randomly generated, i mean literally randomly generated. Trash mob placements, terrain layout, boss placement and everything. Make it like a zone where you have to hunt for the boss ... -
03-01-2017, 10:56 PMShurrikhan
Followed your link from a newer related thread.
I would love to see an inverted (e.g. defense) dungeon. I'd just point out that I'd like to see a more than a single section of it, even at ideal play (e.g. holding at the first line of defense, probably because we're over-geared). Personally I imagine these as more of modified 8-man-ish content, given that that would allow you to split up to some degree, thereby allowing for flanks, back-line preparation, etc.
However, I feel that Open World Dungeons would need a fair bit of structure built up beforehand in order to function enjoyably and meaningfully. (E.g. if you wanted to storm a Garlean base, that should probably come after having already stolen a gunship, having implanted spies, having mapped out the base, etc., in the MSQ or similar open-ish activities beforehand, likely immediately proceeded by a strategy meeting and a, "well then, Warrior, how do we proceed?" or the like.)
Non-set path type dungeons, similarly, need to be more than just non-set. They need to be to at least some degree non-set-able. In a ruins dungeon, have slightly different areas clear by default, and different tools for clearing or navigating the rules hidden away in patterned but nonetheless random locations. Maybe even have one shortcut only usable if you have, say, the SW boss crash into the column at its arena's edge, thereby creating a makeshift bridge over the nearby chasm, etc. -
03-03-2017, 04:07 AMSunspawn
Rather than such radical changes to dungeon structure, I'd like dungeon trash pulls to be made more exciting via mechanics (the same way boss fights are 1/3-2/3 mechanics and not pure tank/heal/damage and dodge aoes for ten minutes straight). In fact, I'd like them to be something more than the filler between the actual meat of the dungeon, the bosses.
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03-03-2017, 04:13 AMManuelBravo
Well for Defense they are pretty much fates.
I like your Gold Saucer Idea I recall FFVII Had an arena for that for solo. Hoping they place that.
Perhaps have a PVP Arena Challenge in Gold Saucer for Currency.
Would be Nice to do a Floor based dungeon like PoD that only has one tough enemy for Faster farming. Maybe for Poetics or Lore with a daily limit. or Newer versions that give more tomes. -
03-03-2017, 04:40 AMSunspawnThe game already has enough grinding, so please no more of that.Quote:
Originally Posted by ManuelBravo
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03-03-2017, 05:29 AMManuelBravoHow is it grinding? It would cut time, most dungeons go for 15-20 minutes with decent group. My suggestion is a 5-10 min tops per session for competent/vets players. Now if you want it as a lvl 1 yeah this wouldn't work. Again a comment from a player with no loadstone profile or blocked. Would you mind making it public? Just curious on your Job stats, achievements, and Jobs your work on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sunspawn
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03-03-2017, 05:34 AMAniond
Why dont they just take POTD and expand on it. Have all end game dungeons be like mazes that have more rooms per floor and set bosses.
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03-03-2017, 07:30 AMSunspawnRe:Lodestone profile - no idea how.Quote:
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Re:Grind - as you said, it will be something people breeze through to farm things, which is a form of grinding. and depending on balance, it will be either OP or useless, imo. -
04-07-2017, 08:52 AMA-Rook
I really like the idea of a dungeon defense setup! =)
It'd even be interesting to simply have dungeons that have some things shifted around such as 3 bosses back to back and then waves of trash at the end in some kind of challenging 'fight your way out' setup. Just about anything, really! It's always interesting and memorable when encounters alter your expectations surrounding a scenario. -
04-07-2017, 02:55 PMAcidblood
Without going too crazy, some things I would like to see them do with Dungeons are:
1. Alternative paths with different encounter types. The main reason for this is that different parties are often better suited to different encounters, e.g. PLD + NIN + DRG is better for single target, where as DRK + SMN + BRD is quite good for AoE, and it's just boring that all trash is basically AoE pulls.
2. Random mini-bosses. Basically think APRG style rare spawns, where a normal mob is made stonger and given special buffs. These could drop Aetherial gear (inc. weapons like in leveling dungeons) of the same iLvl as the regular dungeon gear.
3. 'Hard-mode' rooms. These would be optional side rooms containing especially challenging encounters that you only get one try at (wipe and it's locked), and would reward bonus tomes and treasure chests if completed. -
04-07-2017, 04:37 PMEsp
I've always had a idea of a single big boss in a dungeon.
You start the dungeon by straight up fighting him. No trash, no mini-map, not even time to buff. Fight starts as soon as the gate goes down.
However, you beat it up until a set amount of health, and then it would take off, maybe breaking thru walls and such to reveal your next area to travel to. Kinda like the satasha dungeon pirate guy, only something much bigger. It would also destroy area's to impede your progress, forcing you to find another way around which would have not only adds, but a randomized puzzles to solve that will be different each time you enter.
It would be the players job to chase it down until the final showdown, which of course will take place in the normal room, with its health back to full and boss in a enraged mode from when you fought him at the start, completely changing it's mechanics and amount of damage dealt.
Would still be mobs + boss in a way, but it would shake things up a bit. xD