i'm not sure where i read that Yoshi mentioned they are gonna try out something brand new in 3.0. The game looks amazing and all, flying is really nice but....
the meal is missing spicing a lot and its missing the "something new"
I'm already in the daily grind/hunt + seal farm mode on one character.
Usually i like to lvl other jobs but it's exactly the same as 2.0, there is absolutely no difference at all. Progression is the same. Mechanics are the same, the "new jobs" are not as unique as i thought they would be.
The new dungeons : go through a narrow path, have exactly zero choices and kill boss.
Also like 2.0. The story really was good but the rest of the game doesn't offer anything but boring repitition. (and the fact that 2.0 fates let you lvl faster then the one in new areas also is totally idiotic).
i thought heavensward was about to try out something new?
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07-04-2015, 03:32 AMAntyi thought heavensward was about to try out something new?
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07-04-2015, 03:34 AModie
give it time. the new raids aren't here yet. plenty of time to learn and master the new skills and jobs.
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07-04-2015, 03:36 AMTinyMonster
Wait we already had a gun class, an healer using cards, and one handed sword tank in 2.0?
Sorry I had to say something like this.. Not everything is even out yet, give it time.. -
07-04-2015, 03:42 AMAntywell i am gonna give it time ofc. Still im baffled aboutQuote:
Originally Posted by TinyMonster
1) how hunts are yet again one of the main ways to get/upgrade gear - ppl always did them but hardly anyone really liked them
2) that all the amazing new open world isnt used for anything else but fates and hunts.
3) there is still no big incentive to do anything with friends (unless you want a smooth dungeon run lol) but basicly everything is duable solo or with PUGS.
i was hoping for more things to bond the community or ARR. Not come and go "please inv" Hunts content. -
07-04-2015, 03:50 AModie
Before hunts came out, I thought it was going to be like Gorgimera able to roam about the map destroying anyone without enough friends to help them.....that would have been awesome.
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07-04-2015, 03:50 AMOtoha
I completely agree with everything op said except that 2.0 had a good story.
I'm having fun right now because everything is new, but it's only new, not different. Alexander sounds like it'll be bahamut coils with a different name, chances are good the new 24 man will be a CT clone, and that the new relic weapon quest line will follow the same formula as Zodiac. I do have a little hope though because the expansion just released that something different will be released in the near future. -
07-04-2015, 03:53 AMlololink
Remember that they are planning another content that might be an alternative to dungeons, they want dungeons to remain the same for casual players but want to add something where you will feel lost. No words on what it is though.
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07-04-2015, 03:54 AMAntyops lol , i actualyl didnt wanna say that the story in 2.0 was good, my bad, it wasnt, 3.0 was far better. The formating was bad. the also like 2.0 refered to the dungeons.Quote:
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07-04-2015, 03:56 AMAntywell that sounds interesting, i didnt read that yet. Let's hope :)Quote:
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07-04-2015, 04:02 AMKelg
Hunts are terrible and shouldn't even be a thing, aside for vanity gear or something.
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07-04-2015, 04:03 AMraelaNot really incentive, but quests now work better in a party - one person spawns the mobs and they now count for both. Duoing quests used to feel silly, but now it syncs a bit better.Quote:
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(though this is me doing it with my bonding partner, so I can also hop on his chocobo to run off to the next location..) -
07-04-2015, 04:10 AMHexWeaver
I know what you mean, story was great, flying is fun, but right now I'm levelling up the new jobs on the side every now and then, and playing Elder Scrolls Online.
Don't really want to grind for equipment right now. -
07-04-2015, 05:24 AMAsakuraVN
The new 50+ dungeons give a lot more exp along with new gears, there's no point zerging FATES in the new zones, unless if the map is crowded enough then you can tag some mobs & rush to the next fate. I do prefer this method, making FATEs into something you would only join if they appear on the way, while exploring/doing quests in the open world, not just a zerg fest. And if you do dungeons more often on your main job, along with main story quests, you can leave a bunch of sidequests for leveling sub-jobs later.
The only thing I'm disappointed with is A/S hunting. There're a lot of ways to make world bosses fun, just take a look at Korean MMOs, their world bosses are a lot harder, but they aren't just big meat bags. They summon adds, do 1-hit instant kill AoE (with shapes & patterns, not just a round circle), some bosses come in pairs, & have real mechanics like actual instanced raids. That will require people to communicate with each others, joining guilds on teamspeak, & become part of guild's daily activities, keeping the community together.
I have joined a guild that can gather 2-300 people on teamspeak at the same time to raid those world bosses, & it usually takes 2-3 complete wipes before we successfully did it. That's how hard world bosses should be, extremely fun to do, even if the actual reward isn't worth it (Korean MMOs tend to give 1 single item drop to world bosses).
I never played WoW before so I'm not sure what model is SE following right now, but I hope they can learn a thing or two from Korean, their MMOs just keep getting better & better gameplay-wise. -
07-04-2015, 06:07 AMNague
you dont need the ilvl 180 gear from hunts, pls stop crying about huints, you can just not do them.
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07-04-2015, 10:13 AMReissa
Apart from the new mechanics we're sure to see in Alexander and the new Frontlines mode coming soon, there's quite a few significant changes coming in the 3.x series.
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Future patches will be structured a bit differently. They'll contain only 2 dungeons each, for example:
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What is your content plan after the release of Heavensward? Once it's released, will you still be publishing patches about once every three months?
Yoshida: I'm going to try to maintain that pace as much as possible. However, each major patch will be on an even larger scale than today, so it might increase a bit. We'll continue to consider how to optimize by dividing up content into different updates to make sure we're keeping the pace up. There are many elements we're working on with development such as Gold Saucer, battle content, crafting, gathering, PvP, and main scenario, so I'd like to continue updating each of those categories evenly. However, since we'll be adding two new instanced dungeons in each patch, for example, in addition to all the other content, I think it's going to take more man-hours on the whole.
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The new Crystal Tower-equivalent seems like it will have more open maps rather than linear corridors:
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Though Crystal Tower's story is complete, we will see a new 24-player raid, and its story, begin in patch 3.1. Similar to A Realm Reborn, the plan is to alternate between adding more to the Alexander raid in certain patches, and adding more to this 24-player raid in between.
As for its difficulty, it will be on par with that of Crystal Tower's raids, as they were accessible by players of all types. And this time, alliances will utilize more of the map rather than simply running along a path.
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FC Airships are going to be semi-open world raid content that is different from anything we've seen up until now. Here are some quotes from Yoshi-P about it. He's said a lot more about it, but this should give a pretty good idea of how major FC Airship content should be:
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"With the 3.X patch series, we're trying to figure out how to bolster the community," he says. "We want to get them involved in something more public and open."
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Q8: Currently, there are a lot of content for the hardcore users and the casual users, but not many for the mid-tier users. Are there any plans to implement additional content for the mid-tier users that are able to beat Crystal Tower, but not the Coil of Bahamut?
A8: In the upcoming expansion, we will be introducing a new content for the mid-tier users which is currently referred to as “free company craft” (final name TBD).
Source - Live Letter XVIII Q8
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Yoshida: ...taking your airship to the skies and the activities there is a major theme throughout the patch 3.X series.
Yoshida: So over the course of about a year or so, this content will continue to evolve and expand.
Yoshida: So, this whole idea of Free Company and Free Company crafting as well as the airship, or building an airship is one of the major end game content that the development team is putting a lot of love and effort into.
Yoshi-P has also mentioned things like the fact that the new relic-equivalent will feature a more structured story (I can't find the quote right now).Quote:
At the start of Heavensward you’re not only able to have just one ship but you can actually build up to four ships. And those airships will be ranked. And depending on what your rank level is there will be different parts you can and cannot equip. At the start of Heavensward once you build your airship you’ll be able to send it out to scout, no passengers, just the ship goes out to try and scout. And then in a following patch you’ll then be able to board that ship and explore and find uncharted areas. And even beyond there’ll be capabilities to add combat capability so you can have sort of a battleship. So it’s going to be very major content that will become available throughout the 3.x patch series. Once you’re able to go out and explore and travel and find those different areas in the sky you may find that some of these areas may have Notorious hardcore monsters that you can’t beat and just end up defeated and having to have to come back. Or you may find that other Free Company have already visited and trashed it and made a mess of it. Or you may end up finding a land where you can find really rare gathering items, materials that you can harvest. So there will be a lot of very interesting things you can look forward to in the 3.x series.
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