Rotation help - crafter in despair

Greetings fellow crafters.

I recently hit 50 all crafts (now 51 WVR & GSM), &... I'm about ready to quit crafting. :(

I'm trying to follow gearing up pathway (here), but I can't succeed on vanya silk enough to progress. I'm having no trouble at all at 51 w/ 1* recipes, & get about 90% progress on 1* on my level 50s, but that 2* stuff - wow.

My stats (for WVR), pre-food (I've used Rolanberry Lassi to hit the crafting needed for 2* last time I tried):

Craftsmanship: 331
Control: 333
CP: 315

Gear in next post...

Gear (some errors in my melding - didn't realize how vital it is for EVERY meld to be exactly the right materia & the right order. :( ) :

Clotho
Weaver's Gibus (Comp. 3 & Command 3)
Weaver's Swallowtail (Command 3)
Weaver's Gloves (Comp. 2 & Command 3)
Raptorskin Merchant Purse (Cunning 2 & Command 2)
Weaver's Trouser (Command 2 & Cunning 2)
Weaver's Thigboots (Command 3 & Command 2)
Militia Spinning Wheel (Comp. 3)
Electrum Choker (Command 3)
Red Coral Earring (Comp. 2)
Militia Wristlets (Command 4)
Aetheryte Ring (Command 3)
Electrum Ring of Crafting (Comp. 3)

(continued...)

I don't have the recipe books to make the mosshorn earring, rose gold choker, or dodore belt, & have been trying to do this without buying finished products or anything I can't already make on my own (like demimateria - which is gonna be a whole OTHER source of gil woes to level THAT up). I've already dropped 600k gil on materia, & still haven't come close to max overmeld on the pieces I have; I don't even have enough gil left (750k-ish) to do it all (especially w/ normal failures on overmelds).

With all of that - is there ANY rotation that can get me to a reasonable (say... 70+? 80ish?) percent chance of success on vanya silk? I'm just about ready to quit crafting I'm so discouraged, & it's been a major source of enjoyment in the game for me until now. :(

And I posted this in the wrong forum & now the lovely SE in their infinite wisdom have decided that I've reached my new thread limit for the day.

With one.
New.
Thread.

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I have yet to be successful in the new stuff... well successful in HQing the new stuff I have all but Culinary at 50 which is at 37 for that one useful ability.

But I have been using these for help.

Guide 1 (This one should be good for your needs)
Guide 2 (Though this one actually has rotations instead of macros)

Edit: Neither are 3.0 updated but they have been okay for me with my miserable 313 CPs... Also a forum hint. When a post is too big and is split up. Its far better to just make a short part, then edit in the rest, it saves on posting several posts in a row. ^^)

If you don't have full artisan gear with a supra or lucis weapon, you will have issues with recipes past level 50.

Just do leves and level to 52 or 53 (forget which) and buy or have someone make you the gear there, all you can really do if you didn't do any crafting gear progression in 2.x.

I just made cloth and sold it for a couple million until I hit 56, doing the gc daily which is stuff you can buy for like 5-10k hq since it's all quest rewards.

Then I stupidly bought a level 55 set cause my pld was only 51 off the mb to find out you can just get it from a vendor in the churning mists, so don't do that.

My pre-53's have been relying on the Collection system. No need to make HQ stuff. Get HQ items (Easy for me as I have much higher capable gathering Classes) and collect away. Far easier. And while its potentially lower in XP than the Leve's I find it less stressful as I don't need an HQ item to get xp. Well... its almost perfect. I need to farm for wind crystals soon. XD

With that said. I managed to 100% an HQ item on one of my 52s. Sure I had to spend a good deal of gil to get the CPs needed for it, but at least I'm getting closer to where I was from 30-50 (I was reliably making HQ things using one of the guide's Macro lists.) Sadly I was too slow in leveling and so did not get the lucis or supra things, no artisan items. Though I had HQ'd every classes (Save Cul) gearsets. (I had bought most of the right side for dirt cheap).

I crafted post 51 no problem with max melded class specific greens. The trick is building those inner quiet stacks up nice and high.

Yes Melding works. But I do not have the money for it all. And spending more than that before max level still makes me uneasy. But well I can make gill now at least.

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Originally Posted by BushWookie

I crafted post 51 no problem with max melded class specific greens. The trick is building those inner quiet stacks up nice and high.

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This.

And for all my leveling post-50, I've been using almost exclusively Hasty Touch and Rapid Synthesis...saving all my CP's for building IQ stacks and quality, Manipulation, etc.

2 60's, with the rest coming up on it soon enough (Culinary is lagging way behind tho, sigh.)

As Nanga said, Hasty and Rapid are your friends. Keep Steady Hand II up and these abilities have a reasonably high success rate to go along with their zero CP cost. This allows you to save all of your MP for Manipulation or Master's Mend, as well as what you need to finish the synth. For Vanya Silk, getting your Inner Quiet stacks up to 7 or 8 should be enough to let you 100% HQ the synth with a Great Strides -> Byregot's Blessing combo. If you use HQ ingredients, you can get by with 4 or 5 stacks, but finding enough HQ Potash might be more trouble than it's worth.

56 CP is how much you need for Great Strides -> Byergot's Blessing. Make sure you have this much at the end as well as enough durability to use it and also finish the synth. In the case of Vanya Silk, don't be afraid to use GS -> BB without Careful Synthesis up - it has a 90% success rate, which is pretty good, and even if it fails NQ Vanya Silk can still be sold for a good price or used in other recipes.

Figure out how much durability you need to finish the synth using nothing but Careful Synthesis II. For every two CSII you need beyond the first, you can consider replacing them with one Rapid Synthesis (RS is approximately equal to two CSII) if having enough durability is an issue. Never end a synth with Rapid Synthesis unless you're desperate and will fail the synth otherwise.

Use Tricks-of-the-Trade on every Good material condition. It may be wise to use them on Excellents as well - think of your Hasty Touches ONLY as a means to pump up your Inner Quiet stacks. CP is your friend - you want to get as much as possible.

Start every synth with Comfort Zone. That's basically 16 free CP. Use it again when it wears off, if you think your synth is going to last another 10 steps. CP is your friend - you want to get as much as possible.

Eat Bouillabaisse. HQ Bouilabaisse, if possible. CP is your friend - you want to get as much as possible.

Note on Comfort Zone. It doesn't give that CP+ on itself.

I have taken to renewing CZ when there is one left. Unless ToT is up of course.