I'm a gladiator

I'm pigeon-holed into joning the Desert Drudges aren't I?

lol what arnt you pigeon-holed into these day in FFXIV..

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Originally Posted by Bled

lol what arnt you pigeon-holed into these day in FFXIV..

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A pigeon's hole?

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Originally Posted by EmeraldHill

A pigeon's hole?

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Pigeonhole: a hole or small recess for pigeons to nest.

Pigeonholed: Assign to a particular category or class, esp. in a manner that is too rigid or exclusive.

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Originally Posted by Bled

lol what arnt you pigeon-holed into these day in FFXIV..

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Well, you have to admit, there was a very vocal "pigeon-hole me" crowd who are getting what they wanted. It's the whole reason these jobs are even being created. Just hope it works out~

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Originally Posted by AmyRae

Well, you have to admit, there was a very vocal "pigeon-hole me" crowd who are getting what they wanted. It's the whole reason these jobs are even being created. Just hope it works out~

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Iv yet to decide how i feel about the armory plus job system, i am reserving my judgment till its completely released.

Wait whats going on now? You mean forced into the Ul'dah Grand Company?

If anything it should be great. Mix and match all you want with the armory, or go straight into a profession with a job...if everything works nicely.

Well it's not like the rewards are all that great anyway. Besides, you might as well say you're "pigeon-holed" into wearing armor for Disciples of War.

Then again, what else exclusive is there to the Companies besides the class specific rewards?

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Originally Posted by Gramul

Well it's not like the rewards are all that great anyway. Besides, you might as well say you're "pigeon-holed" into wearing armor for Disciples of War.

Then again, what else exclusive is there to the Companies besides the class specific rewards?

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Its whats to come that worries me not what we have offered now.

I'd say you're just going to have to wait for the patch to come out. As of now it looks like gladiator gear is concentrated at the Immortal Flames, but we don't know if they are going to keep with that exclusion into the new patch. Just do what I'm going to do: wait a day or two after the update for people to post all the info, then make an educated decision off of that information.

But yes, you *might* be pidgeonheld into the Immortal Flames if you want all the best Glad Grand Company gear.

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Originally Posted by Bled

Its whats to come that worries me not what we have offered now.

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What do you expect to come?

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Originally Posted by Gramul

What do you expect to come?

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Best gear for classes and jobs being exclusively in a single company.

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Originally Posted by Bled

Iv yet to decide how i feel about the armory plus job system, i am reserving my judgment till its completely released.

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Yeah, I personally think it's a mistake. The armory system was one of the most well-received components of FFXIV when it launched. However, without knowing all the details of how the armory system with work with the job system, and how they will co-exist, I can't be too judgmental just yet. Not only that, but I'll be happy to be proven wrong if this job system turns out to be a worthy addition.

Life pigeonholed me into breathing

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Originally Posted by Bled

Best gear for classes and jobs being exclusively in a single company.

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How did you come to that expectation?

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Originally Posted by Gramul

How did you come to that expectation?

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Based on how the companies are set up now? I want to choose my company based on what i want, not based on my class.

All companies should offer the same equipment for all classes, the only difference in weapons armor should be how they look.

Example LNC weapon:

The Maelstrom (Limsa Lominsa): weapon style nautical maybe a trident

The Order of the Twin Adder (Gridania): weapon style natural overtones

The Immortal Flames (Ul'dah): weapon style gritty and bulky

Something of that nature at least.

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Originally Posted by Bled

Based on how the companies are set up now? I want to choose my company based on what i want, not based on my class.

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Add in the fact that you can be say PUG and GLD as your main jobs. Do you follow Cobra Commander and work on your punch arts or do you stay in Ul'Dah to do that stabby thing or do you just say screw the classes I could get gear for I'm going to Limsa Lominsa to be a pirate? If you want to be a pirate(Maelstrom is totally pirates) you don't get gear but even if you wanted gear you can only get it for one of your classes in this hypothetical. Even if they don't release good company gear, you shouldn't have to worry about it when you sign your character's soul away.

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Originally Posted by EmeraldHill

I'm pigeon-holed into joning the Desert Drudges aren't I?

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Originally Posted by Bled

lol what arnt you pigeon-holed into these day in FFXIV..

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You are playing a video game... thats as limited and structured as it gets...
You want absolute freedom... Its called real life

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Originally Posted by Rydin

You are playing a video game... thats as limited and structured as it gets...
You want absolute freedom... Its called real life

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no one asked for absolute freedom let alone implied it... nor do i think you even know what absolute freedom is, seeing as you back it up with "real life".

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Originally Posted by Bled

no one asked for absolute freedom let alone implied it... nor do i think you even know what absolute freedom is, seeing as you back it up with "real life".

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I know... Im not arguing against your point... and I'm not gonna argue the perception of freedom versus truly being free
I'm just saying what some people considered being pigeonholed, others would call structure. In Super Mario Brothers on NES, Mario was pigeonholed into running in one direction (right ->)
But I do understand the need for some control over our gameplay... But I just think having us making a choice (in a company) and having us be accountable for and reap the benefits of that choice doesn't have to be a bad thing...
It all just depends on your perspective

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Originally Posted by Rydin

I know... Im not arguing against your point... and I'm not gonna argue the perception of freedom versus truly being free
I'm just saying what some people considered being pigeonholed, others would call structure. In Super Mario Brothers on NES, Mario was pigeonholed into running in one direction (right ->)
But I do understand the need for some control over our gameplay... But I just think having us making a choice (in a company) and having us be accountable for and reap the benefits of that choice doesn't have to be a bad thing...
It all just depends on your perspective

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We picked a city when we started.

One year later a city I did not choose nor pledge to has my main classes weapons in their shop.

My perspective is fuck that.

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Originally Posted by EmeraldHill

We picked a city when we started.

One year later a city I did not choose nor pledge to has my main classes weapons in their shop.

My perspective is fuck that.

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Hahaha... At least we aren't bound to the company for the city we initially chose..... that would be interesting, to say the least

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Originally Posted by EmeraldHill

We picked a city when we started.

One year later a city I did not choose nor pledge to has my main classes weapons in their shop.

My perspective is fuck that.

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Because having to instantly teleport to another city and get their leves is such a hassel.

Also, if you feel pidgeonholed by GC I really don't know what to tell you since they have almost no impact on classes.

I'm a gladiator, too.
I'm picking Gridania's company because I like Gridania.
You do realise that there will be better gear available in the form of AFs or something similar which most likely won't be obtained through the GCs.

GC gear will most likely just be similar to city gears from XI, where a lot of the equipment will be weaker than those you will find through quests or dungeons.

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Originally Posted by EmeraldHill

We picked a city when we started.

One year later a city I did not choose nor pledge to has my main classes weapons in their shop.

My perspective is fuck that.

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QFT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm a Marauder and I'm residing in Ul'dah. Your choice =)
You're not pidgeonholed, since you can move wherever you want and do things wherever you want.

I was secretly hoping this was about the new "No, I am Sparticus" ability that causes massive enmity when used against imperials.

Sometimes you have to pretend like some parts of the quests never happened. Like a marauder being apirate. I don't want to be a pirate, but I want the intimidation trait. I just think of a happier place and close my eyes when I have to do those kinds of quests

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Originally Posted by Fiosha_Maureiba

I was secretly hoping this was about the new "No, I am Sparticus" ability that causes massive enmity when used against imperials.

Sometimes you have to pretend like some parts of the quests never happened. Like a marauder being apirate. I don't want to be a pirate, but I want the intimidation trait. I just think of a happier place and close my eyes when I have to do those kinds of quests

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That's not really a parrot on my shoulder... That's not really a parrot on my shoulder...

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Originally Posted by EmeraldHill

I'm pigeon-holed into joning the Desert Drudges aren't I?

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Not really. Sure so far the Gladiator gear has been released in that company but it's not like it's 100% the best gear in the game ever. I wouldn't worry yourself too much about company gear rewards. Join the company you like best, have fun with the game.

At the end of the day, I'd say choose whatever company you like based on whatever reasons fit you... if you just like a certain zone... like the lore from that city... If you think the city your guild is in would be a better choice...

Just don't be afraid of making a bad decision...

Our society is built on bad decisions... Hell.. half of us would have never been born if it wasn't for bad decisions...
Embrace the unknown... welcome the adventure....
Manifest Destiny and all that jazz

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Originally Posted by Bled

no one asked for absolute freedom let alone implied it....

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Not in this topic, but do you honestly read these forums. let alone any MMO forums?

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Originally Posted by AmyRae

That's not really a parrot on my shoulder... That's not really a parrot on my shoulder...

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It should totally be a chocobo chick! =D

So basically people don't see any siginificant issue with how it is set up? /boggle

I went with Maelstrom on Ren even though she's an Archer + Pugilist.

'Cos I like pirates.

And 'cos I'm waiting for the gunnery class to come out XD

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Originally Posted by Jennestia

Not in this topic, but do you honestly read these forums. let alone any MMO forums?

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I agree however i base my responses and statements on the debate at hand not the popular opinion; it would be nice if others did the same and did not infer so much and rather read the post carefully.