We have so many classes now, its silly that we only get one piece of gear per class now. In older games they solved this issue by putting sets in patterns. This made it so everyone had an equal or close to equal chance to get their gear.
Pattern of the Strategist's (set) piece.
Bard, Scholar, Ninja, Astrologian
Right click to select your class and piece of gear.
25% drop rate.
Pattern of the Reaver (set) piece.
Black Mage, Dark Knight, Dragoon
Right click to select your class and piece of gear.
25% drop rate.
Pattern of the Holy (set) piece.
Paladin, Monk, White Mage
Right click to select your class and piece of gear.
25% drop rate.
Pattern of the Warmonger (set) piece.
Warrior, Summoner, Machinist
Right click to select your class and piece of gear.
25% drop rate.
Can pieces of armor drop in Patterns?
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07-01-2015, 10:55 AMNektulos-TuorCan pieces of armor drop in Patterns?
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07-01-2015, 11:03 AMKeydah
That's...honestly an amazing idea. Gimme.
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07-01-2015, 11:48 AMdejavutwo
I like this type of token system as it still keeps some of the randomness of RNG, but makes it so that loot tables are not bloated with tons of gear that isn't useable by anyone.
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07-01-2015, 11:56 AMRyuRoots
Anything that helps alleviate the veritable mountain of garbage loot that literally no one in a party wants that happens pretty much every single time I run any HW dungeon would be a welcome change.
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07-01-2015, 02:22 PMNektulos-TuorYeah... I agree completely. I want patterns very badly. =(Quote:
Originally Posted by RyuRoots
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07-01-2015, 02:23 PMVitalSuit
I'm getting like no healing gear and I can feel my parties screaming from the low heals I'm putting out. Meanwhile my ninja is getting gear left and right.
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07-01-2015, 02:25 PMNektulos-TuorYeah, i've done the level 60 dungeon 17 times. Still missing Tank Helmet, Boots, Gloves, Legs.Quote:
Originally Posted by VitalSuit
My last 8 runs were.
Ninja Helmet, Monk Legs, Machinist Boots.
Monk Helmet, Ninja Boots, Machinist Leggings
Monk Helmet, Ninja Gloves, Monk Boots.
Ninja Helmet, Bard Legs, Bard Helmet.
Bard Helmet, Monk leggings, Machinist gloves.
Its getting ridiculous. Developers must love these classes, its like they are filler. -
07-01-2015, 02:36 PMSylveIts funny because the HQ crafted 52/54/56/58 gear is all better the dungeon drops that are 51/53/55/57/59 for Primary Stats.Quote:
Originally Posted by VitalSuit
So if you're having trouble getting gear, just get the HQ set for your current level, and you're fine for dungeons.
If this is a comment on 60 dungeons, once again, the crafted gear is a match for the dungeon loot.
Well, they WOULD be if crafters would get it into their heads that 1 million+ gil for an i160 is ridiculous.
Edit:
On topic, I actually do not support this idea. My distaste for this stems from my years playing WoW, where they handled Tier Pieces just like that.
Its bad enough trying to get your token to drop in the first place without having to fight 4+ players for it every time it DOES.
At least here on XIV, when your piece drops, its yours. Especially in Light Parties.
Tanks and Healers in Full Parties get the short straw here, but even then, its only a 50/50 as to who gets it, and with statics, there's usually an agreement on which tank/healer gets which bits first.
As we get more and more Jobs, the number of jobs per token would increase. Further reducing your chances of actually winning it when it finally drops.
Much like the Antique token they used for our old AF i90s, everyone Need rolled it because it was for 9 Jobs all at once.
I would much they went with with a "Scraps" system.
-Open Treasure box, 2 standard loots drop along with an Armor/Weapon scrap. (Everyone present gets a scrap)
-Turn in X Scraps to a vendor or crafter to "Restore" a single Armor or Weapon drop from the associated Dungeon.
Basically working much like the EX Primal weapons do in Heavensward. You can either win the RNG for the drop itself, or beat the fight a few times and get it eventually.
Double Edit:
Expand the Request Meld/Repair system to include "Restoration". Give the crafters something to keep them relevant for the whole expansion along with the HQ stuff they get normally. -
07-01-2015, 02:40 PMNadirahBoth WoW and EQ2 do this already.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keydah
Nothing like getting a pattern for a class you don't have though. That was awesome. -
07-01-2015, 02:44 PMNektulos-TuorI'm honestly fine with that. I'm not fine for looting more monk/nin/bard/mch gear..Quote:
Originally Posted by Nadirah
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07-01-2015, 03:15 PMGunspec
Level up some desynth skills. Nothing like BREAKING the gear you find in a dungeon. Teach that monk gear who is BOSS by smashing it into scrap.
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07-01-2015, 04:10 PMFelis
Tokens like in Temple of Quarn (hard), Sastasha (hard) and Snowcloak and no gear would drop that nobody can need.
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07-01-2015, 05:43 PMNadirahConsidering I play bard too, I'll take that off your hands.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor
Game really wants me playing SMN/BLM though. -
07-01-2015, 06:28 PMAmelia_Pond_Behemoth
And I'd be happy to take that SMN/BLM gear off your hands.
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07-01-2015, 07:43 PMYukiko
Old idea, but SE never implemented it so far...
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07-01-2015, 07:53 PMsirDartsBasic capitalism. Offer and demand. If enough people are willing to pay 1 million+ for it, there is no reason for the seller to lower the price.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sylve