My idea for an alternative hunt system

Level 60 leves.

Ok, this is my basic idea of how it would work.

level 60 leves, cost 10 or more leve allowance with a hefty cooldown on them. Anything upto 12 hours.

You can do them solo to get a lesser target, with a lesser reward. But, the more people in the party with the leve to link. upto an alliance, the stronger the Leve hunt mark becomes, upto equivalent of an S rank. The reward scales accordingly of course.

No big green circle on the map to show you where it is. Random, multiple spawn points with a clue in the Leve description aiding you to the location.

So upto 4 people link a Leve, you get from a present B rank equivalent, to a 4 person dungeon boss difficuly. 5-8 People will be equivalent of an A rank 9-24 will be an S rank. All must have the Leve in the party to boost the difficulty, and thus the reward from completing the leve.

Thoughts?

Or just make the item on the amber trader... No complex system, just makes useless items useful.

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Originally Posted by Sapphic

Thoughts?

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Hmmm slight adjustemnt...

1-3 B rank, 4-8 A rank, 9-16 AA(yup want a double AA rank) rank, 17-24 S rank(thougm maybe AAA might be better instead of S - leave S as special world ones). But I'd say no to all having the pop item(or as you say level) just the leader needs to have it and it's shared with all. This mixed with something someone else posted to the effect of get to the zone - which is the only clue - pop an item - find some clues about the location from it's prey, following tracks, etc... then you get to the spot where it spawns... trigger it... get a nice cutscene as well... then start blasting it...

No thanks.

Treasure Maps.

I feel the current Hunt system is great.

What we need is more HP on the targets. Have the base amount of health and for every additional player past a pre-specified amount that attacks the NM, 10k-40k health is actively added to the target.

Give monsters their own version of Thrill of Battle that stacks and lasts until they are slain.




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I've been saying this for a long time. Give all A ranks Odin stats, so it takes quarter of the realm to show up and kill the thing. multiply the rewards and respawn count down accordingly. S ranks even more.

The problem most people have with the Hunt is the toxicity of the playerbase- and SE can't solve that, no matter how much anyone wants it. You can't patch human nature.

The solution, is good intel and a good linkshell. Get those two things going and get there first. If you're getting there right when the mark is dying, either you're too slow or your intel isn't good enough.

Hunts are fine, the real problem is another: the only way (except daily mobs) to upgrade the current equip is to zerg hunts, and ranks A are NOT designed for 8+ players.
They should stop putting upgrades item into hunts, imho.

Done some A ranks, when randomly encountered, in the last month of 2.5 with 3 friends of mine and that was fun because there was ZERO zerg and some fight's mechanics were enjoyables.

Hm, I dunno, how about this?

-Monster Mark's HP increased
-When Hunt Monster spawns in the world there is a 5-10 min shield up on the monster that it receives no dmg until timer is up. (That way people have plenty of time to teleport in location and get to the monster without some impatient player just wanting to get the marks and get to the next location.)
-When Hunt Monster spawns, an NPC would shout something along the lines, "HELP!!! THE TERRIBLE "NAME" IS DESTROYING THE AREA @ <pos>." (So people don't use 3rd party sites to see if a mark is up.)

Hunted all day Saturday and got enough Centurio Seals for 1 full set - it is only real bad during peak hours and very good during odd hours (except that instance crap).
I think it is fine the way it is now, hopefully wouldn't need them for Esoteric gear and the people doing them will die down a bit.

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Originally Posted by Elisewin

Hunts are fine, the real problem is another: the only way (except daily mobs) to upgrade the current equip is to zerg hunts, and ranks A are NOT designed for 8+ players.
They should stop putting upgrades item into hunts, imho.

Done some A ranks, when randomly encountered, in the last month of 2.5 with 3 friends of mine and that was fun because there was ZERO zerg and some fight's mechanics were enjoyables.

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This is really the only way I do hunts. If I encounter them or am in a zone and feel like doing when the zergfest arrives. But they can be so fun with a small team. Especially love the QQ after of some crazy arse pulled it with only 4 people and it's dead now shouts.

My idea for an alternative Hunt system is taken right out of Final Fantasy XI, so I guess it'll never happen;

https://i.imgur.com/FkMjjBj.jpg

Remove A and S Ranks as they currently are. Have a system where you buy pop items for Allied Seals which will spawn the mobs instead. So for an example; You do your Mark Bills for a base set of Seals, buy a pop item for Nahn, kill Nahn and get some more Seals and a trophy item. Take that trophy to a Hunt NPC and you can trade it in, along with some more Seals, to get a pop item for Bonnacon.

I'm all for open world content, but Hunts are currently just glorified FATEs. When they're "required" they become a mindless zerg, which is simply the worst kind of content. When they're not and become unpopular, they're better since nobody cares if you lowman them, but they're still lacking. Force pops retains the open world element, but it means SE can balance them with specific numbers in mind. B Ranks for Mark Bills could be (and are) soloable. A Ranks like Nahn could be balanced around a Light Party. S Ranks like Bonnacon could be balanced around a Full Party. They could even add a couple extra tiers beyond that balanced around Alliances. Rewards could be better balanced out. Overall it just makes for a better system, IMO of course.

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Originally Posted by Chihaya

Zeni stuff... man... that stuff...

Go around beat up mobs to a sliver of HP, then sleep them, TAKE PICTURES

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Only part of ZNMs I hated. Mark Bills make for a better replacement IMO.

Zeni stuff... man... that stuff...

Go around beat up mobs to a sliver of HP, then sleep them, TAKE PICTURES

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Originally Posted by Nalien

My idea for an alternative Hunt system is taken right out of Final Fantasy XI, so I guess it'll never happen;

Remove A and S Ranks as they currently are. Have a system where you buy pop items for Allied Seals which will spawn the mobs instead. So for an example; You do your Mark Bills for a base set of Seals, buy a pop item for Nahn, kill Nahn and get some more Seals and a trophy item. Take that trophy to a Hunt NPC and you can trade it in, along with some more Seals, to get a pop item for Bonnacon.

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So levequests... I said that in the first reply. All they have to do is add the items to the amber trader list.

What I'm suggestin in a more direct way is difficult max level leves that can be used as party to alliance content as an alternative method of obtaining hunt rewards. Something you can do with friends and the FC. Reason for everyone needing the leve to link to push more difficult encounters is to put a cap on how much it can be used. Thus not making it another unlimited source, but another alternative. Plus giving a use for those Leve allowances which, for many aafter levelling sit at 99 for a long time with no real reason to use them.