Law Farming

Just FYI from my perspective...

If you have hit 60 and are ready to farm law tomes out of interest in i170/i180, you might start with the hunts first. You need a considerable amount of Centario Seals and you will gain Law Tomes from HW hunts.

Oh, do your daily hunts as well! :cool:

Too bad hunts are an awful system and only doable during the server down time when most people are asleep. I can't bring myself to bother diving into that cesspool.

I can't do hunts, since load screens = I'll never make it in time.

I'm thinking I'll just take it easy with the daily hunt board, that's 870 seals a week doing that. You'll be able to upgrade several pieces a week just doing the dailies, the whole right side can be upgraded in a single week.

If you do all 4 of your roullettes is several hundred tomes a day on its own, more than enough for a piece of gear or two... I don't really see why hunts would be a "good" option to farm law tomes, even if you rode the "a rank" train and hit all of them you are getting 40 tomes per over the course of several hours.... Meanwhile I can spend 40 minutes doing expert roulletes and get 160 plus. Trial roullette takes 10-20 min and will net you 80.

If we are talking just farming law tomes I don't think hunts are a very efficient way of doing that.

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Originally Posted by R-Kine

Too bad hunts are an awful system and only doable during the server down time when most people are asleep. I can't bring myself to bother diving into that cesspool.

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What's wrong with them, besides so many people showing up 2 minutes after the call that the mob and half the players vanish, and they get blown up in 10-20 seconds?

Wonder what SE says during meetings about hunts, someone has had to say "it makes a negative play environment that not all machines can experience due to loading times, it is not challenging and the most interaction is teleporting - frustration if you don't have the ability to generate a lot of hate" "Sold! Lets keep using this content exactly as is".

I mean I know its not, because that'd be insane, but personally wish seals could be obtainable elsewhere because I nearly loathe the content (leve like hunts?!).

I'm actually surprised that the devs STILL lean on the hunt system to serve such an important function. Given how easy hunts are, why not just make seals available from doing all levels of roulette?

You can't complain TOO much about hunts anymore. They REALLY improved the daily reward for centurios as opposed to the old hunt seals. A hundred a day or so is a good number for not actually hunting A and S ranks. Can hunts be improved? Of course they can, but they still have done a good job making on easing up a little bit for non hunters.

The first lv 60 dungeon is doable just fine with the gear you gain up to that point (assuming you pick the HQ items as rewards). Its what I farmed for awhile alongside hunts, though I also am a healer and got lucky with several "First time bonus" tomes. However the next two dungeons, that is open for debate as at ilv152 I still felt a bit unprepared for the final bosses.

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Originally Posted by MetaRed

If you do all 4 of your roullettes is several hundred tomes a day on its own, more than enough for a piece of gear or two... I don't really see why hunts would be a "good" option to farm law tomes, even if you rode the "a rank" train and hit all of them you are getting 40 tomes per over the course of several hours.... Meanwhile I can spend 40 minutes doing expert roulletes and get 160 plus. Trial roullette takes 10-20 min and will net you 80.

If we are talking just farming law tomes I don't think hunts are a very efficient way of doing that.

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Once you burn through the law tomes, you find yourself needing the seals with no option other than doing your daily hunts and A/S hunting/waiting for A/S calls. You can get tomes from hunts, but you cannot get seals from expert dungeons.

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Originally Posted by Darus

You can't complain TOO much about hunts anymore.

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why not?

it's not even hard to improve it substantially from what we have now.

make the B Ranks a daily and the A Ranks the weekly.

it shouldn't be hard to do the math and figure out how to pay out on those so that it's comparable to the average of what they are paying out now.

or you just ignore hunts, dont die of an heart attack and have the 10 more ilvl a week or two later.


Its not like you are required to have ilvl 180 anyways.

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Originally Posted by Thayos

I'm actually surprised that the devs STILL lean on the hunt system to serve such an important function. Given how easy hunts are, why not just make seals available from doing all levels of roulette?

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Maybe it's working as intended in Japan?

But yeah, would be nice if seals were rewarded in dungeons.

Still, atleast daily hunt seals this time are a viable, albeit slower method of getting gear upgrades.

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Originally Posted by Nague

or you just ignore hunts, dont die of an heart attack and have the 10 more ilvl a week or two later.


Its not like you are required to have ilvl 180 anyways.

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No, but probably gonna need i180 for the raids later.. otherwise, SE wouldn't have made i180 so readily available so soon.

It is such a lazy design to tie it to the Hunts IMO.

That said, this time around, at least on my server, it is manifesting quite oddly. Instead of the zerg drama, there is almost complete silence on almost all LS and /shout chat. It seems groups have taken to doing 8 man ninja kills of the marks, to give them the raiding edge over others.

God how I hate hunts..

You do hunts because
a. It's easier than instance (requires no skill or gear what so ever).
b. You get seals AND tomes, by the time you can afford your first ilv170 you can make it 180 immediately.
Once you got enough seals to upgrade all your gear slots you switch over to instance/roulette and already with a bunch of ilv180 to boot.


No time wasted.

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Originally Posted by Marveth

No time wasted.

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Except they are so boring (imo) and dungeons are fun, so Id actually say that hunts are time wasters.

Id rather have fun and be 10ilvls below everyone else tbh but Id say the majority of the playerbase dont agree since shout is filled with INVITE ME PLEASE IM HEALER (doesnt sound desperate at all..)

Hunts aren't even that good as a farming method imo. Except the A and S Ranks in the new 3.0 areas, they drop a lot of Centurio Seals.

Currently you can net 110 Centurio Seals a day, and 870 in a week, that's almost enough to upgrade 3 items.

Law farming is easy with 420 tomes a day through roulettes, 460 if somebody is new to the Expert dungeon.

Whereas you're looking at 10 Law per Hunt kill. Good luck killing 46 A Rank mobs in a day ^^

What ever happened to them just keeping vanity items in there for glamour? why force hunts down people's throat for end game content? It pisses off the raiders to be forced to hunt and pisses of the regular hunters to now be forced to show up at a zone in 30 seconds after announcement to even get credit. What I believe they should do is allow us to use GC seals to buy these instead using just hunt seals. Now don't get me wrong.. If I was SE I would not make it too easy for them to farm seals. It would be like 1 upgrade for 30k seals. This wont solve the problem of face pull hunts, but it will atleast give us the option to choose.

Just do the daily/weekly hunts solo..

If you have been doing them every day you would be done before any real content is out, and wouldn't have to do a single A or S hunt.

I've been just doing my roulette and the level 60+ dungeons that yield 80, given people are still leveling there are constantly new people in every dungeon netting me 120 tomes per run.

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Originally Posted by One_Time

Once you burn through the law tomes, you find yourself needing the seals with no option other than doing your daily hunts and A/S hunting/waiting for A/S calls. You can get tomes from hunts, but you cannot get seals from expert dungeons.

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Look at the stat boost on 170 vs 180 though. The difference is minor, especially on the accessories. After weapon, ring, body and pants, you're looking at 10 main stat from those last 7 pieces.

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Originally Posted by Jon_00

Hunts aren't even that good as a farming method imo. Except the A and S Ranks in the new 3.0 areas, they drop a lot of Centurio Seals.

Currently you can net 110 Centurio Seals a day, and 870 in a week, that's almost enough to upgrade 3 items.

Law farming is easy with 420 tomes a day through roulettes, 460 if somebody is new to the Expert dungeon.

Whereas you're looking at 10 Law per Hunt kill. Good luck killing 46 A Rank mobs in a day ^^

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OP wasn't stating you should farm your law with hunts, though. He was pointing out that without the Centurio Seals that are only available from hunts, all the Law tomes in the world won't get you any higher than i170. The fact that hunts also give you law (albeit a smaller amount) is a nice bonus. Honestly, I'm glad we have 110 seals a day guaranteed. I tend to try to use the hunts to earn exp on a secondary class too, since you still get the same seal reward.

The two expert dungeons give 160 gear and 80 tomes. They are fairly easy, but not mind-numbingly easy. The required 145 is doable, but may be too low if everyone is 145 unless they are good. Getting the 160 gear while farming tomes is quite nice.

Seals are easily gained from your daily mark bills. Hunts are good for gaining upgrades quickly, but getting the 170 gear faster is my preference.

Meh - cap centurio seals gained per week to X amount and call it a day. Hunts will be viable then and not a zerg fest all day long every day. After X amount of weeks remove the cap.

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Originally Posted by Twilite

No, but probably gonna need i180 for the raids later.. otherwise, SE wouldn't have made i180 so readily available so soon.

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there is no way they force alexander normal players to farm ilvl 180 gear trough hunts.
alexander will replace hunts for progressing.

Daily hunt marks earns around 110 seals a day, also the weekly B rank hunt mark adds another 100. There is no reason to force self to do A or S ranks unless your very impatient. Take also into account you can start farming seals way before hit 60, like 54 I think which can use and stock up on components need for later so by time hit 60 should already have some components. Accessory components from seals only cost 150 each, armour only costs 300 each and weapon costs 395 I think so it's not very expensive. Do not leave it till hit 60 before start gaining seals, you can start at 54 unlocking tier 1 marks, tier 2 I think at 56 and tier 3 at 58, 60 unlocks the B rank tier.

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Originally Posted by Dinadan

I'm thinking I'll just take it easy with the daily hunt board, that's 870 seals a week doing that. You'll be able to upgrade several pieces a week just doing the dailies, the whole right side can be upgraded in a single week.

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thats all i do :3 daily board hunts.. the drama surrounding S/A hunts just annoys me not a fan of the hunt system only due to all the drama n fighting it causes on shout