Why are Coerthan Tea Leaves on a timer for gathering?

Coerthan Tea Leaves are used to start crafting at 51 for Leatherworkers.
None of the other "starter" materials are gated for the other DoHs.

This means Leatherworkers must needs spend more time or gil than other classes just to start the level grind.

i'm wondering the same, not enough to make us kill monster for get skin randomly, we need now to wait every hours for get around 15-18 leaves.... it's idiot especially when you notice that no other craft of equipement have this sort of thing.

Unspoiled nodes now spawn every 12 ET hours, so that's 35 minutes Earth time. Ungeared players will have trouble gathering it efficiently, but veteran players with melded Lv 50 gear will have no trouble gathering the leaves.

As to other crafts, the second tier of all of CRP, BSM, ARM, and WVR need Holy Water, which is an ALC recipe that uses materials gathered from unspoiled nodes. CUL also depends on unspoiled node stuff. GSM is probably the only profession getting the easy way out.

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Coerthan Tea Leaves are used to start crafting at 51 for Leatherworkers.
None of the other "starter" materials are gated for the other DoHs.

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Yes and no?
The moment you hit anything needing Holy Water - which is everything 52 - you'll be gated behind a recipe for Alchemist that's gated behind them.

There's some really weird gating in general though for new crafts. I can think of some recipies that require the services of vastly higher levelled fishers than the crafters that will use them (Mogpoms)

Which is why I'm leveling my gatherer's first, as well as having a pair of gathering retainers. i got almost 300 of the initial hides for Ltw just while leveling my retainer to 53.

All hail the mogpoms!
But yea the crafts in 3.0 all seem to be gated by alch or time nodes after 52.
Holy anything = qq
Also why is cedar wand repaired by carp if its made by alch......

true, but alchemists also have glue, you don't HAVE to do holy water. there's void, wing, and scale glue all nice spaced out in level and cheap to make.

leather pretty much gets shafted until you can do the dragon/amphithere.

oh man nvm. theres a vender in foundation that sells coerthan tea leaves super cheap.
wish I knew this sooner >_<

Can retainers get them? My bot retainer isn't there yet so I'm not sure. But the leather will be available in bulk when people start getting their retainers there.

@cearka They added that along with a couple of the other botanist gatherables during one of the hotfixes.

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Originally Posted by AkirethRae

@cearka They added that along with a couple of the other botanist gatherables during one of the hotfixes.

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ah ic. probably cause they realized how unbalanced it was to gate leather and alchemy like that.

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Originally Posted by lordoftheapes79

Can retainers get them? My bot retainer isn't there yet so I'm not sure. But the leather will be available in bulk when people start getting their retainers there.

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Retainers can't get any unspoiled node items. But even though, my WHM retainer has been extremely useful providing me with skins and that jelly drop thingy (don't know what it's called in EN).

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Originally Posted by Zfz

Retainers can't get any unspoiled node items. But even though, my WHM retainer has been extremely useful providing me with skins and that jelly drop thingy (don't know what it's called in EN).

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Gelato jelly/flesh?

well the trouble of the leather work is not over, it's me or the drop of the skin is extremely low? not enough to ask 3 for one leather, you get them at 1-2 max every 4-5 monster, it's dumb!
when you level up other craft you simply need to go to a nods, mining for a bit and enjoy... here we are stuck at kill tons of monster for get the hope to get 1 leather. i did spend 10 minutes at kill elder wyvern for wyvern skin.... i did get 3 skin!

Seriously SE, you had to change the drop of the skin in ARR for the same damn reason!

I don't understand why we need 3/1 skin/leather ratio anyways. Up till now so far as I know it's always been 1 skin + 1 other material = 1 leather, now all of a sudden I need 3 skins of a lower drop rate and an item that if I want HQs of, I need to wait for a time gate.

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Originally Posted by Demonjustin

I don't understand why we need 3/1 skin/leather ratio anyways. Up till now so far as I know it's always been 1 skin + 1 other material = 1 leather, now all of a sudden I need 3 skins of a lower drop rate and an item that if I want HQs of, I need to wait for a time gate.

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All of the crafts are like this at the moment, with 5 logs for a lumber and ~5 ore for a nugget, where ya only needed 3 before.

They're just tryna make ya sweat a bit for the goods.

Yeah my retainers are pretty much leveled now. Leather is a non-issue. But anything hidden or on an unspoiled node and ephemeral nodes are in available. Guess you gotta do something yourself. I'm finding this system fine so far. It's frustrating at first but now that the initial grind is done I think it will work well.

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Originally Posted by D_C

All of the crafts are like this at the moment, with 5 logs for a lumber and ~5 ore for a nugget, where ya only needed 3 before.

They're just tryna make ya sweat a bit for the goods.

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To some degree, I understand that, but it's not quite the same. Were it 2 skins, it's be a 100% increase. As it is, we're seeing a 200% increase. Compared to ores and logs which have a roughly 66%(one ore with only a 25%) increase, it's just not the same. At best they took each of the items and added a flat +2 materials to the craft, but that disproportionately added necessary work.

Don't get me wrong, I can live with this and it's not a terribly important complaint in my book. This just feels kinda unbalanced, as Leatherworking does feel like it got the short end of the stick with how much extra work was added for it. Also, so far as I know none of the dungeons drop Wyvern Skin doesn't help take away the sting of being a mob drop, like we see with every other kinda skin.