Do you think the old zones should be given aether currents?

Just curious on your thoughts. What if they added aether currents in the old zones?

I'm not sure since it's not really a simple matter. I'm not opposed to flying in older zones simply as a means of moving faster or seeing the area from a new perspective, but you have to consider that such perspectives weren't planned for and as such the zone may be unusually ugly and feel broken or incomplete without a lot of work.

Typically when flight isn't possible many things that are forever out of sight simply don't exist as in game assets. Take CCH for example. There are rock walls in many places that prevent direct travel across the zone. More likely than not those walls are only walls and when you get to the top there's nothing to cap them off -- just emptiness in the middle of the area that you currently can't possibly see. There would be many instances of this sort of thing in every old zone, so the amount of work to 'fix' it could probably not be justified without using the old zones for new content that required flight.

If they can think of a compelling reason to implement flight in the old zones then sure, have at it. If no better reason than 'it would be fun/ nice to fly everywhere' can be found then I don't think it could be justified.

they'd need to connect and widen them up. I'd really like it, but at current flying speed we'd traverse old zones (except south thanalan) in seconds

Only if the expand the areas. Some of the areas are too small to justify air mounts.

If it's a lot of work, a priority basis would be nice. Coerthas Central Highlands is the one zone that could really benefit.

As others said, some of the zones would be too small or not programmed with flying in mind. That being said, for new comers trying to trudge through the MSQ, it could be a good way to alleviate all the non-sensical fetch quests that are in the game.

I really want them to, but I'm sure it would probably break a few zones and require a lot of reworking. I'm not sure the content in those zones grant Aether Currents. Also, what would happen to people that don't have HW? They would see people fly at 1.5x the speed their ground mount travels at. Fate farming would be much faster than ever before (good or bad), but if you don't have HW good luck trying to keep up with a flying mount.

not really no
they should keep them as they are, they'd all need serious reworking for flight and personally i think flight should stay in ishgard + distant future new zones
but yeah ground mounts are a thing and they need love too

As someone who has actually made 3d models, 3d environments, etc, I can understand 100% when they said the old zones weren't made for flying.

Unless you've worked with 3d software, just accept that you have no idea what you're talking about and simply accept that those who actually DID make the game do.

I don't agree they are too small. There are plenty of ARR zones that would benefit:

-Lower and Western La Noscea
-Most of the Thanalans (especially Southern)
-South Shroud
-Mor Dhona
-Coerthas Central

Those are all pretty big zones and could benefit from flight.

I think Yoshi have mention about the flying in old area, they will make it available in future but don't know when.

No, personally I've seen what implementing flying EVERYWHERE does to an MMO, it's not pretty, and I like FFXIV, I wouldn't wish that on this game.

If they did it, I would like to see it done one zone at a time. Retrofitting CCH first since it is a part of Ishgard's Territory. From there maybe see. Right now though I don't see where its necessary and on that, It would be at least level 51 before you could even find the currents, by then you've had CCH done and cleared a while ago. Only use would be fate grinding and a few odd Ixali dailies.

It would be nice, not a priority by any means but along with merging some of the smaller zones would be cool to see by 4.0

If they did, they are going to need to redo alot of the old zones, alot of the landscape doesnt extend that far, and would look odd when you view from above
Mountains on the edges are incomplete with only the side facing us and empty on the otherside

Too much work, rather they work on new content

would love to see flight in all the zones but they would have alot of work to do to achieve this but having currents in the old zones might be a way to get it more lively in the old zones i think they should have certain fates reward currents aswell as having to hunt them down

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...67#post2919167

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It will not be possible to fly in A Realm Reborn areas, as the maps were not originally designed to allow for flying. We might address this one day, but for now we would like to focus our efforts on adding new areas.

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Might happen, might not. Either option works for me.

But, I think most of us would be happy to see new areas.

Traversing the old zones was perfectly fine without flying before the expansion, and they're still perfectly fine now.

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Originally Posted by nuyu11

I think Yoshi have mention about the flying in old area, they will make it available in future but don't know when.

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Yeah he said that if the demand was there they would devote some resources to retro-fitting the old zones for flight and that they would do it little by little throughout updates.

I dont care how small the old zones are, flight is to fun not to have. They got my vote.

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Originally Posted by HulveinBlitz

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...67#post2919167



Might happen, might not. Either option works for me.

But, I think most of us would be happy to see new areas.

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Ah there.. nice one mate

While I might not mind it, I'm also fine without for ARR areas. Gives a good reason for the ground mounts still since some of them will probably never be made flyable. Though I do wonder what changes to the zones would be made to accomadate it...

No, I'd rather they use their time coming up with new zones instead of rehashing old stuff. :)

It would be nice if they could (so I could avoid all those heavy spammers), but it shouldn't be a priority.

The older zones are quite small compared to the new ones, so I dont think its really necessary, BUT I love fying in any game that offers it, soooo I would never say "no"
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I'd like to, but only if they don't have to invest a lot of resources they could otherwise invest in potentially more interesting stuff.

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Originally Posted by Ramath

As someone who has actually made 3d models, 3d environments, etc, I can understand 100% when they said the old zones weren't made for flying.

Unless you've worked with 3d software, just accept that you have no idea what you're talking about and simply accept that those who actually DID make the game do.

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I believe the OP just asked for people's thoughts about it. No one said they know how to do this stuff (except you), and I don't recall anyone demanding it be done. So troll elsewhere...

At the speed flying goes, even the biggest 2.x areas are too small, you'd blast through them in no time at all. I was stunned at how fast I went through Western Highlands when I unlocked flying there, let alone how fast it'd be in the old areas.

My heart says "hell yes" but my brain says "hell no."

I absolutely love the convenience that flying offers us in the new zones, being able to bypass so much pointless garbage to get to our objective and not having to worry about enemies slowing us down is fantastic.

However, if we allow flying in the old zones then it will potentially go down the same path WoW does where being able to fly becomes the expectation rather than the exception and that lead to WoW's incredibly stupid mistake of removing flying early on in their latest xpac which pissed off a lot of people and forced them to to put it back in eventually while arrogantly claiming "we'll put in flying again even though our decision not to put it in was right," which is laughable at best. Players get too used to the convenience and then we want it to stay as is, soon we'll start demanding no aether currents and being able to fly straight out, then it will just go downhill.

I'd rather they keep flying in the HW zones alone and for whatever the next xpac is, make sure the zones are designed in such a way where navigation isn't as annoying as it is in heavensward without a flying mount. The heavensward zones have some really bad layouts and confusing ramps which can be completely bypassed by flying. Going forward I'd rather see more zones with an aetheryte in EVERY quest hub, more porters, and less confusing topography so we aren't wasting time circling around to get on top of a rock. Opening the can of worms for flying mounts might not have been such a good idea in the longterm tbh.

I don't see any real reason not to. It could be done in increments as some groups find time, but there's no real reason to exclude it from the possibilities entirely. The reason flying took so long was because of the very vocal minority who were convinced that even jumping in the game would cause the universe to implode.

Still, there's other seriously broken things (like housing and hunts) that REALLY need to be addressed first.

All this flying has made the youth of Eorzea weak! Flying here, flying there! Why, in my day, we were glad to have a Chocobo to take us where we wanted to go!

And get off my lawn!

If they were gonna redo the old zones I'd rather them work on seamless transitions between zones (aka less loading screens) and less invisible walls. Those two things are basically the only things I think other games do better than ffxiv

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Originally Posted by Amelia_Pond_Behemoth

Just curious on your thoughts. What if they added aether currents in the old zones?

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They'd have to merge them back into their V1.0 sizes to give a reason for it.

On the other hand, I'd love to run around Ul'dah on a flying mount. Limsa likewise would benefit.

The reason they can't, is that the maps are essentially cut in half or a third from where they were in V1.0, and Gridania was originally a bit more of a maze to get to.

I was just curious on everyone's thoughts. I asked this in the FC yesterday. One member commented that he wouldn't want flying in the old zones because it would render the old grounded mounts useless.

Personally, I wouldn't mind even if it's limited. I can't tell you the number of times I've had to figure out how to traverse the terrain. Especially in the Black Shroud.

I wanna be able to glide the least if not fly in old areas D:

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Originally Posted by Waeksyn

All this flying has made the youth of Eorzea weak! Flying here, flying there! Why, in my day, we were glad to have a Chocobo to take us where we wanted to go!

And get off my lawn!

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Yeah
In my old days, back in 1.0, I was happy if a foot-high rock didn't stop my character. Jump changed everything. And now jump is not good enough anymore and everyone want to fly. And before we see it coming everyone want to fly to the moon.

To Op's question: No.

Yes i would like to see flying in old zones

As cool as it would be to be able to fly in the old zones, it would be a ton of work to make them viable for flight. I've glitched out of the map on more than one occasion and discovered things like one-sided mountains, two-dimensional trees and other scenery, and lots of objects that have huge gaps in them where you wouldn't normally see. I honestly don't really think it's worth the amount of effort that would go into retooling zones meant only for walking through.