Top DPS Jobs in 3.0?

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06-25-2015, 11:28 PM
SonTensei

Top DPS Jobs in 3.0?

Guys, I am about to get my bard to 60 and will change to another job (just finishing it out since im close and its easier/faster to level the 2nd job)

For those who have been 60 a couple days already and have had a chance to look at DPS output how do the DPS jobs lineup now?
06-25-2015, 11:32 PM
Allyrion

SMN seems super strong right now. DRG is pretty well off as well, I think.
That's as much as I can judge so far.
06-25-2015, 11:37 PM
Sleigh

On a dummy, it SHOULD go something like this (haven't seen parses yet of every single job though):

MNK > NIN > DRG/BLM (have seen both around 1200) > SMN > BRD > MCH

In real fights, depending on the amount of dummying you can do and disconnects, it should go roughly something like this:

NIN/SMN > DRG > MNK > BLM > BRD > MCH

I feel like DRG's more strict on having uptime on enemies than before (like BLM), but they still benefit from phase shifts and downtime to a decent extent.
06-26-2015, 12:22 AM
Shamirah

Keep in mind that as a DRG you'll have an easy time to find a spot since you have a broken buff (15% crit party buff)
06-26-2015, 12:26 AM
Shhikasan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sleigh

On a dummy, it SHOULD go something like this (haven't seen parses yet of every single job though):

MNK > NIN > DRG/BLM (have seen both around 1200) > SMN > BRD > MCH

In real fights, depending on the amount of dummying you can do and disconnects, it should go roughly something like this:

NIN/SMN > DRG > MNK > BLM > BRD > MCH

I feel like DRG's more strict on having uptime on enemies than before (like BLM), but they still benefit from phase shifts and downtime to a decent extent.

nin/smn > drg > mnk > BLM > Darkknight > brd=> mch
06-26-2015, 12:30 AM
Snowaeth

So far from a couple i180ish people reporting their numbers on dummy

NIN/DRG>MNK>SMN/BLM>WAR>MCH>WHM/BRD
06-26-2015, 12:31 AM
Minorinz

according to parsers of good players:

mnk>nin/drg>smn>blm>brd>mch

each is situational though so depending on the fight and downtime
06-26-2015, 12:35 AM
SonTensei

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snowaeth

So far from a couple i180ish people reporting their numbers on dummy

NIN/DRG>MNK>SMN/BLM>WAR>MCH>WHM/BRD

lol at whm and brd same dps. wtf!
06-26-2015, 12:36 AM
SonTensei

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minorinz

according to parsers of good players:

mnk>nin/drg>smn>blm>brd>mch

each is situational though so depending on the fight and downtime

yeah i know its always situational has been since t1 or EX primals hmmm drg is sounding intriguing
06-26-2015, 12:40 AM
Snowaeth

Quote:

Originally Posted by SonTensei

lol at whm and brd same dps. wtf!

WHM reporting 900ish dps which is where the current BRD parses seem to be at.

Where the MCH is actually reporting around 980 and WAR over 1k

All 3 melee seem to be managing to pull close to each other so not entirely sure about them but the NIN's seem to be more consistent pulling high numbers for now
06-26-2015, 12:44 AM
Krissey

I main Ninja, but I used to love Dragoon so much so that I left the game for a year because my Static wouldn't let me play the Dragoon. I love melee but also love pet classes. Very torn between Summoner or Dragoon for a backup class. Then again maybe I'll not need one because maybe there is never a case where nobody wants a ninja!?
06-26-2015, 12:45 AM
SonTensei

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snowaeth

WHM reporting 900ish dps which is where the current BRD parses seem to be at.

Where the MCH is actually reporting around 980 and WAR over 1k

All 3 melee seem to be managing to pull close to each other so not entirely sure about them but the NIN's seem to be more consistent pulling high numbers for now

-.- ; ; ; hmmm yeah i have to decide to gear bard or go with another job now... and its looking like another job may be the answer... knowing SE they will make adjustments. but remember the issues with DRG. they didnt get addressed for MONTHS!
06-26-2015, 12:47 AM
Sleigh

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snowaeth

WHM reporting 900ish dps which is where the current BRD parses seem to be at.

Where the MCH is actually reporting around 980 and WAR over 1k

All 3 melee seem to be managing to pull close to each other so not entirely sure about them but the NIN's seem to be more consistent pulling high numbers for now

I'm seeing SCH is around 750 with i190 weapon + full i180 on a dummy. I guess WHM beats SCH now ... interesting.
06-26-2015, 12:49 AM
SpookyGhost

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shhikasan

Darkknight

sorry what
06-26-2015, 12:51 AM
SonTensei

Hi my name is Yoshi P,

I just wanted to let everyone know that we feel that a DPS class with as much utility as bard or machinist should be capable of doing less damage than Warriors, Dark Knights, and Healers because we want to preserve the balance of the game play. We feel that the mana song/turret has much more value than any one can do with damage numbers.

Just wanted to let you know our logic.

Thanks and please look forward!
06-26-2015, 12:58 AM
Shhikasan

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpookyGhost

sorry what

dark full dps pull about 900 range
06-26-2015, 12:59 AM
Sleigh

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shhikasan

dark full dps pull about 900 range

I believe all tanks do around 900-1,000 DPS in OT stance.
06-26-2015, 01:05 AM
Shhikasan

Quote:

Originally Posted by SonTensei

Hi my name is Yoshi P,

I just wanted to let everyone know that we feel that a DPS class with as much utility as bard or machinist should be capable of doing less damage than Warriors, Dark Knights, and Healers because we want to preserve the balance of the game play. We feel that the mana song/turret has much more value than any one can do with damage numbers.

Just wanted to let you know our logic.

Thanks and please look forward!

sad part is songs and regen seem to be non issue since a lot of people gotten new ways to self regen tp or mp.
06-26-2015, 01:19 AM
kirk

Yaay bard got the shaft >_>
06-26-2015, 02:27 AM
SonTensei

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shhikasan

sad part is songs and regen seem to be non issue since a lot of people gotten new ways to self regen tp or mp.

Yeah unless you have friends that you been playing with a long time and they are kind enough to not force you to play a different job, good luck in party finder --- bards / mch prolly gonna get blocked out!
06-26-2015, 02:40 AM
Kaze3434

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sleigh

MNK > NIN > DRG/BLM (have seen both around 1200) > SMN > BRD > MCH

do you happen to know the times for how long they ran for? not quite fully geared, but was running 920+(nin) with crappy delays(end of month my isp slows everything i do down.)
06-26-2015, 02:44 AM
Sleigh

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaze3434

do you happen to know the times for how long they ran for? not quite fully geared, but was running 920+(nin) with crappy delays(end of month my isp slows everything i do down.)

My BLM was 3:50, pretty steady around 1100-1200 depending on where I am. The DRG ones, I've seen in videos on Reddit.
06-26-2015, 02:50 AM
Shhikasan

Quote:

Originally Posted by SonTensei

Yeah unless you have friends that you been playing with a long time and they are kind enough to not force you to play a different job, good luck in party finder --- bards / mch prolly gonna get blocked out!

I've already read some people getting kicked from duty finder as a brd/mch.

I can't get the parser to work so i don't even know my numbers as an mch. and ilvl 163 now just gonna be doing hunts today for upgrades then law farming later on
06-26-2015, 03:12 AM
SonTensei

Reading the Japanese forums on this site, they are complaining quite heavily about brd/mch as well.... im pretty sure SE will pay attention since the JP's aren't happy also
06-26-2015, 03:26 AM
Kaze3434

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sleigh

My BLM was 3:50, pretty steady around 1100-1200 depending on where I am. The DRG ones, I've seen in videos on Reddit.

enochian is op. and this is with you guys full i170+ right?
06-26-2015, 03:43 AM
ChaozK

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shhikasan

sad part is songs and regen seem to be non issue since a lot of people gotten new ways to self regen tp or mp.

Well at least DRGs chug tp like crazy now with all the speed that you need for the new rotation. We still love you
06-26-2015, 03:46 AM
Dervy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shhikasan

sad part is songs and regen seem to be non issue since a lot of people gotten new ways to self regen tp or mp.

Dragoons welcome you Bards and Machinists to our crib. We desperately need you.

Also, I've not seen anyone so far post an image of a Ninja/Monk doing above 1200. Unless I'm bad at sourcing, could someone link me to one? I'm interested.
06-26-2015, 03:47 AM
m3eansean

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChaozK

Well at least DRGs chug tp like crazy now with all the speed that you need for the new rotation. We still love you

NIN too. We only have invigorate to regen our own TP and can use goad once every 2 min or so. We still like you BRD's as well.
06-26-2015, 03:50 AM
LordMaitreya

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dervy

Dragoons welcome you Bards and Machinists to our crib. We desperately need you.

Also, I've not seen anyone so far post an image of a Ninja/Monk doing above 1200. Unless I'm bad at sourcing, could someone link me to one? I'm interested.

Well there is this here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZJr...ature=youtu.be but 45 seconds hardly qualifies though.
06-26-2015, 04:30 AM
HeavensSword

Quote:

Originally Posted by LordMaitreya

Well there is this here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZJr...ature=youtu.be but 45 seconds hardly qualifies though.

Yea, everyone's opener would parse higher than a true average.
06-26-2015, 04:55 AM
Butcherboy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dervy

Dragoons welcome you Bards and Machinists to our crib. We desperately need you.

Also, I've not seen anyone so far post an image of a Ninja/Monk doing above 1200. Unless I'm bad at sourcing, could someone link me to one? I'm interested.

There a vid made by Scx in the mnk forum parsing at 1.3k. Somewhere in page 185 to 188. It's page 188
06-26-2015, 05:03 AM
PhalanxField

Quote:

Originally Posted by Butcherboy

There a vid made by Scx in the mnk forum parsing at 1.3k. Somewhere in page 185 to 188.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post3067501
^This post.

That's just the opener, though. So not quite what Dervy's asking for.

I can't find anything for the NIN or MNK, but I did find some BRD and MCH Parse images over on redditland:

https://puu.sh/iCqZX/831774d987.png

https://i.imgur.com/eyP814t.jpg

As well as this SMN Parse:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FV-5V58Vo8

and this DRG one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7lRToC_llM

edit: And this BLM one: (No parser visible, but claimed 977dps in i159. Potentially sub-optimal opener given the comments surrounding it, so... slightly valid).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlsEEthLVGE

That's all I could find across both forums. Naturally everyone's gear isn't maxed at this point either, but that's what we have.
06-26-2015, 05:03 AM
HeavensSword

Quote:

Originally Posted by Butcherboy

There a vid made by Scx in the mnk forum parsing at 1.3k. Somewhere in page 185 to 188. It's page 188

That's still only a 43 second opener. Need something at least 4 min+.

EDIT:
Phalanx beat me to it.
06-26-2015, 05:05 AM
Butcherboy

I didn't know what was being ask so I just posted what I've seen so far. Apology

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