Moogles repetitive quests!

Seriously SE team, what made you think it was fun to make 2 full levels (so far) about Moogles and their hide and seek repetitive quests. This is getting very boring..

I don't mind many quests. You could always save them for your other jobs.

But there are some quests which require you to find objectives hidden away in the z-axis dimension which make it really annoying...especially the one that you have to find 5 wildfowl nests...I want to break something because of this quest T-T

I like how people before were like "All these Go there then there then there" and "All these Kill x creatures". Now we got something slighty different and people complain about that aswell.

I do however see your point, it gets rather repetitive after the first like 3 times or something. I just tried to think "this is how Moogles are, life is but a game for them" and tried to seek justice in that.

My biggest complaint is that I wasn't able to join the Mogsguard.

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Originally Posted by Evergrey

I like how people before were like "All these Go there then there then there" and "All these Kill x creatures". Now we got something slighty different and people complain about that aswell.

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Something slightly different?
"Slay wamourae."
"Slay wamouracampa."
"Slay wyverns."
...yeah, the monsters are different, the quests? Nope.
"Find the moogles."
"Find the moogles."
"Look for the moogles."
"Look for the moogles."
"Find tools."
"Find baskets."
"Collect nests."
...minimal amount of difference only in wording.

And the way some of those things are hidden, like seriously....there isn't even any effort to hide that we are doing the same quests over and over. Best part is when they're chained, so you can't even pick them up and do them at once.

It's just like when we complained about FATEs, how awful and boring and repetitive they were... and SE's answer was giving us more FATE grinding when they introduced Atma. And then, maybe on a smaller scale but still, with Alexs.

Shouldn't even be surprised, I guess.

I hate moogles with a passion now. Not purely because of these repeated fetch quests, but the fact that they, the moogles, are so freaking lazy. Sadly, it hasn't gotten any better after I progressed.

moogles are love, moogles are life

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Originally Posted by Evergrey

I like how people before were like "All these Go there then there then there" and "All these Kill x creatures". Now we got something slighty different and people complain about that aswell.

I do however see your point, it gets rather repetitive after the first like 3 times or something. I just tried to think "this is how Moogles are, life is but a game for them" and tried to seek justice in that.

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Slightly different? They have all been the same, find and look for. Slay 0/3. Over and over, not much effort added except for the story maybe, the quests objectives are just the same and takes times. I wouldn't mind objectives more challenging and fun, like defending someone with a health bar, something like tower defense. I'm sure they can always come up with new ideas.

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Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh

I hate moogles with a passion now. Not purely because of these repeated fetch quests, but the fact that they, the moogles, are so freaking lazy. Sadly, it hasn't gotten any better after I progressed.

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Agreed, they can only fight when their king is under attack like in the trial, but can't defend themselves xD

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Originally Posted by LordHadi

Slightly different? They have all been the same, find and look for. Slay 0/3. Over and over, not much effort added except for the story maybe, the quests objectives are just the same and takes times. I wouldn't mind objectives more challenging and fun, like defending someone with a health bar, something like tower defense. I'm sure they can always come up with new ideas.

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Lets be honest here, people are only complaining because its moogles. How is doing a lot of fetch quests etc any different from previous quests? :P
Personally I dont find them troublesome. Ofcourse I made sure to get flying in that zone when it became available, before doing the sidequests. ;)

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Originally Posted by Aeyis

Lets be honest here, people are only complaining because its moogles. How is doing a lot of fetch quests etc any different from previous quests? :P
Personally I dont find them troublesome. Ofcourse I made sure to get flying in that zone when it became available, before doing the sidequests. ;)

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Yes I have to agree maybe it's the 2 levels quests about Mogs makes it boring. Made me really hate them haha.. You are required to fly anyway to get these quests done. If it wasn't for my Griffin I would have just switched off my PS4 and got back to my real life lol

It can be annoying if you are one of those people who absolutely MUST clear every flag on the map or be aggravated by that flag sitting there on your screen and it needs to go away now and then more keep popping up...

but otherwise it is a source of exp that is always there and takes minimal development time.

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Originally Posted by lynn_

moogles are love, moogles are life

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Moogles can die!! break their wings and abandon then in a floating island

Is it worse than doing all 25 postmaster quests?

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Originally Posted by MasamuneBranford

Is it worse than doing all 25 postmaster quests?

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yes... some of those quest are fun...

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Originally Posted by Leep

My biggest complaint is that I wasn't able to join the Mogsguard.

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I was sort of expecting a "Mogsguard" or "of the Mogsguard" title as a reward for that slew of quests.

I wanted some Kupo Nuts...

The only difference between my hatred for the Churning Mists, and my hatred for King Moogle Mog EX is I can actually kill King Moogle Mog EX.

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Originally Posted by BreathlessTao

Something slightly different?
"Find the moogles."
"Find the moogles."
"Look for the moogles."
"Look for the moogles."
"Find tools."
"Find baskets."
"Collect nests."

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^ QFT

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Oh look, people complaining about optional content again. I hardly did any of the moogle quests. If you don't like them, don't do them!

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Originally Posted by seida

Oh look, people complaining about optional content again. I hardly did any of the moogle quests. If you don't like them, don't do them!

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So your answer towards annoying design is to just ignore it and not try to let the developers know that their quests were super repetitive? Covering your mouth when you sneeze is optional too, but you don't tell people to not do it because they don't like it.

Also, if they did a bad job with Coil or Alexander, you can't be dumb and tell the people who are into raiding, "Hey, don't do it, if you don't like it. You have no right to complain, because it's optional."

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Originally Posted by Boyzby

So your answer towards annoying design is to just ignore it and not try to let the developers know that their quests were super repetitive? Covering your mouth when you sneeze is optional too, but you don't tell people to not do it because they don't like it.

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...they are subquests. They're always repetitive and similar. They're just there for xp if you don't want to do dungeons. And yes, if the "annoying design" has zero impact on the actual game, I do ignore it. Please, give some ideas for more interesting subquests then.

Even as I love Heavensward I really don't want to white knight everything. I like the hide and seek quests because it adds atleast some variety, but adding 10 of them to the same location kinda kills the variety.

We need escort quests similar to ones in leves and defend NPCs quests similar to ones in FATEs etc..
Maybe some quests with minigames too.

I understand that these quests take longer time to make, but a few of them per each location would definitely kill the grind and help with variety.

if my hate for churning mists could be measured in people, i would be china

I really like side quests and their stories but the moogles quests are lawl lol...

I dont mind the odd ones in between about Mogleo joing pomguard and the eventual allusion to good king moggle mog and all that but the in-betweens of fetching nuts and playing hide and seek got a bit annoying, mostly because they are of the same nature and because the moogles are lazy.

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Originally Posted by NefarioCall

It can be annoying if you are one of those people who absolutely MUST clear every flag on the map or be aggravated by that flag sitting there on your screen and it needs to go away now and then more keep popping up...

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Of course I'm going to clear them, not for having their flags showing on my map but for gaining exp (common sense) -_-

So only me who found this moogle quest is fun and free exp.
Fly collect this and kill that, nothing much then u got exp just like that.
So far I have nothing to complaint yet I love it.

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Originally Posted by nuyu11

So only me who found this moogle quest is fun and free exp.
Fly collect this and kill that, nothing much then u got exp just like that.
So far I have nothing to complaint yet I love it.

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That's how I felt when I had just found them. Several hours later (and many moogles), not so much. :P After a while looking for moogles gets a bit tiring.

They had a couple of missed opportunities. In particular the stuff in the palace and the training drills the moogles were asking you to help them with. Would it have killed the developers to make each moogle a temporary follower during their respective quests instead of portraying them as lazy despite claiming otherwise?

The moogle quests made myself and the rest of my static refer to the Churning Mists as "Sidequest Hell".

That zone has been nicknamed "Moogle Hell"

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Originally Posted by Leep

My biggest complaint is that I wasn't able to join the Mogsguard.

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Mogsguard? you scrub...it's all about the moogle squad!.

I was actually complaining to my FC the other night about these quest.

SE Quest Designer Guy (QDG) #1 Hey Yoshi! How bout an epic quest where the player has to find some moogles that are hiding!

Yoshi: That sounds like a great idea!

(Short while later)

SE QDG #2 Yoshi! I got this great ques where the player has to find some moogles that have been lost!

Yoshi: Hmm, that does sound good although vaguely familiar..

SE QDG #3: Yo Yoshi, so I was thinking bout this quest where the player had to find these Moogles.. (continues on)

Yoshi: Um... Sure. Deja Vu..

This goes on for several hours, somehow making it into the game.

Anyone that pass the quest where you have to find the 5 Wildfowl Nests, would you like help me with something? Are all those 5 nests location are like atop of the tower area? What I mean is that none of them will be at the amphitheater(story quest) and below that, right?

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Originally Posted by Neri

Anyone that pass the quest where you have to find the 5 Wildfowl Nests, would you like help me with something? Are all those 5 nests location are like atop of the tower area? What I mean is that none of them will be at the amphitheater(story quest) and below that, right?

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1 of them is down below, at 'ground' floor. The other 4 are way up high.

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Originally Posted by Aeyis

1 of them is down below, at 'ground' floor. The other 4 are way up high.

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lol, I knew it. I flew and flew trying to find that last one and never expect to see the last one is on the ground level. Thanks! I will look into it after the maint. is done.

The problem isn't the quests it's how they bombard you with the same quest over and over in the same zone. Look at the dragons and Gnath. food, food, food, food, hunt for food, get me food. forage food, kill him for taking my food. Moogles.. Find the moogles, find the baskets, find the moogles again, find em yet again, round up all the moogles. go find my baskets again, find the meaning of life, find my flower.

If they had just taken some effort in breaking it up!

I thought the Goblins were ten times worse. Run back and forth between same two points one quest at a time for three hours.

As a white mage, I loved these quests.

Do you have any idea how hard it is to kill 3-8 mobs of over and over again as a white mage? That and being a healer I'd prefer to help moogles than murder creatures.

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