(sorry in advance for my bad english)
hi, so with the early acces i started play DRK, (never played tank, never)
i lvl my job etc, and when i reach lvl 50 what a big surprise to me to see that i can buy ILVL 115 stuff (full set, accs, weapon) for less than 50K...
well, im disapointed about this "politic"
first i never played tank so having directly "high" stuff is not good (atm just having Ilvl stuff is saving me from not wiping) i couldnt learn the "proper" way to play my job, this is my first complain,
second and biggest, why doing that ???
because now who gonna do turn 1 ? T2 ???
(just an exemple)
why, just why ! making older contain USELESS, with the new content ?
why not making a >> next series ??
to make people build up properly and surely
i have a friend who joined 2 weeks ago, was hard for him to even have a "training" for T1, well now its useless to try even winning this ...
SE you failed on this part !!
just why ? ...
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06-23-2015, 09:54 PMangueljust why ? ...
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06-23-2015, 09:57 PMDestinova
I learned Drk pretty good from 30 to 50 doing dungeons and such.
and they should add a Raid Roulette for old content. ^_^ -
06-23-2015, 09:57 PMsirDarts
Nobody is forcing you to buy the items.
It's made for people who want to enter Havensward ASAP, so they can clear the i90 requirement of the last two story trials. -
06-23-2015, 09:59 PMChihaya
Umm... welcome to vertical progression? As much as I prefer horizontal progression, it is how it is.
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06-23-2015, 09:59 PManguelQuote:
Originally Posted by sirDarts
how is that related to my post ? -
06-23-2015, 10:06 PMMadsamurai
Older content would be more or less be for glamour purposes for players who have yet to grab armors from Coil. You do not need Coil to hone your skills as a tank. Any dungeons works. If SE did not include ilvl115 armors for sale for cheap, players with less than stellar ilvl would have a hard time with the mobs in HW as they will be a challenge to kill for anyone that is under ilvl100. Theres also the ilvl130 poetic gear that was available before 3.0 hits so your "unhappiness" is sorely targeted at not able to find people to do Coil with you. Kind of expected that in the new expansion everyone would be doing the new content instead of queueing for old raid dungeons don't you think?
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06-23-2015, 10:11 PMAverax
The ARR content is now old content, and is barely relevant now.
There is no more point forcing you to grind old content so you can pass the ilvl 90 requirement and get to the new content. People will return to the old content when they want to get the glamours from it.
Is this the first time you've ever had to deal with an expansion for anything? -
06-23-2015, 10:13 PMFrost_Trunks
Tis the life of an MMO. Expansion comes out, old gear is junk. It's life. I haven't seen anything better than my i130 poetic gear yet, but I am only 55. Just enjoy the game.
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06-23-2015, 10:14 PManguel
ok so from your answear new player wont be able to do all the content of the game they gonna buy
amazing !
(PS: its for a new player who want the bahamut coil storyline, not for me)
FFXI had exânsion, but still dynamis, sky sea, was all usefull (until they lifted the 75 lvl cap)Quote:
Originally Posted by Averax
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06-23-2015, 10:17 PMsciondar
Try to give it time. There are new players who will be going through that content and old ones will go back once the new stuff dies down some. Right now most people are focused on the story but they'll get done and go back to work on other classes or alts and will pick up the 2.x stuff again.
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06-23-2015, 10:18 PMCirgellonWhy can't you do it? Are you the only new player in the game? Did you ever consider making some friends?Quote:
Originally Posted by anguel
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06-23-2015, 10:19 PMSouljacker
Actually, people will be low-manning that content now. Many were able to low man it before, just were forced into having full parties. Don't be surprised to see some groups in the PF looking for specific makeups because all ARR old content has been un-gated and we can go in as we like now - solo or in smaller groups.
It's not the end of the world like you are making it out to be, and frankly, this content couldn't stay relevant forever. It's time for new raids.
oh, and this is NOT FFXI.
That game was stagnant because things were relevant for TOO FREAKING LONG (I'm looking at you, okotes).
Don't even bring such things up to give SE any bright ideas. -
06-23-2015, 10:22 PMDimitrias
it would be nice if you could just progress through the entire game naturally, but that's just the way it is now. You know like once 50 grind wondera's palace for gear, then AK, and so on. But youshi wants most peaple to be up to the current content in this game without having to go through all the other stuff to get there.
Regular rpg's is where you go if you want the same experiance every time you play it. -
06-23-2015, 10:30 PMZfzBecause 115 is the default gear for level 50. The vast majority of new players will be progressing towards Ishgard instead of gear locking themselves and "train" at Coils.Quote:
Originally Posted by anguel
Just because you are given the gear, doesn't mean you can't wear your old gear for a challenge. You have a choice. Don't just swallow everything handed to you then complain that it doesn't taste good. You can choose what to swallow. -
06-23-2015, 10:36 PMAyrie
They made a mode just for you! Minimum item level mode! So now even uppity new players all hurt about not experiencing 2.0 Titan hard can experience one of the lowest points of ARR.
For the record... I think Titan HM is like ilvl 50-60?
Please look forward to it! -
06-23-2015, 10:50 PMLaerune
Nobody is forcing you to buy these items, if you wish to farm the i120/130 items, then you can do that. I have leveled all the battle classes of 2.0 and only two classes are geared with i120/i130, being able to buy a i115 gears is probaly one of the best things that SE have done with this expansion.
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06-23-2015, 11:06 PMStrejdaTom
I still hope they will invent some system to make coil viable doing even now.. not roulette though.
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06-23-2015, 11:23 PMCakekizyYou can't even buy the 115 stuff till you get to Ishgard, so how would that help you get past the 90 hurdle before HW?Quote:
Originally Posted by sirDarts
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06-23-2015, 11:34 PMAyrieMSQ 2.0-2.55 awards an ilvl 90 set to make sure you meet min ilvl reqs. 115 is to make jumping into Ishgard not as blatently painful. And to bridge the gap between the ilvl 120-130 vets.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cakekizy
Edit: it may actually be 110, unweathered soldiery stuff. I am not 100% what it awards. Just that it is lower than poetics. -
06-24-2015, 12:08 AMCatwhoIt's up on the market boards since it's vendor gear.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cakekizy
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06-24-2015, 12:24 AMgtasthehunterIf you don't have heals or even good heals you won't be able to take/tank that many mobs.Quote:
Originally Posted by anguel
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06-24-2015, 01:16 AMAremis
Actually, if you compare it to some of the endgame gear from before Heavensward, some of the Coil gear has better stats despite the lower ilvl when comparing the non HQ stuff. So I think you will still have people running coil and other endgame content. And, as someone else already pointed out, some people will run the old content to get the gear for glamouring over some of the new gear.
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06-24-2015, 01:29 AMSolaria_LunaI've seen i115 stuff on Marketboard...and bought some.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cakekizy
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06-24-2015, 01:33 AMstardrifterFFXI was made by a different dev team, with horizontal progression, Yoshida's team seems to be following a vertical progression where as time moves on older items and content become obsolete. Just the way it is. I for one am glad I can buy ilvl 115 gear for other jobs so I don't have to grind out a bunch of tomes to get into HW. If vertical progression is something we must have, even though I prefer horizontal, I am glad they streamline the progression path from expansion to expansion.Quote:
Originally Posted by anguel
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06-24-2015, 01:52 AMNadirahThis isn't ffxi, and this is far from the first or only expansion for a game to do this.Quote:
Originally Posted by anguel
People will do Coil at 60 for glamour.
HW was balanced around a certain gear level, you want everyone to have to gear in Coil first? -
06-24-2015, 02:02 AMAmaiHanakazeHorizontal Progression.Quote:
Originally Posted by anguel
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Originally Posted by Chihaya
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06-24-2015, 02:29 AMDarkstride
You still can't equip the i115 gear until level 50, so you still need to play and learn the job from 30-50. This gear just allows you to skip obsolete content that has you grind dated gear.
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06-24-2015, 02:50 AMLemuel81
Not to sound rude but after reading your post you have to be new to MMOs. This is normal. An expansion comes out it is normal to have upgraded gear. I do not see the problem. There is nothing to stop you from playing your class, gear has nothing to do with learning to play your job.
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06-24-2015, 02:54 AMCakekizyI assumed it was bound once bought, good to know.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solaria_Luna
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06-24-2015, 02:58 AMSouljackerI think it might be quest rewards. I noticed that I could sell the quest reward stuff that I hadn't yet used. Not sure that extends to purchased gear at vendors as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cakekizy
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06-24-2015, 03:05 AMWournsfeik_UntawhasynThings become bound when you first 'use' them after equipping them. So it's not bound until after the first time you were wearing it and then slayed a monster, or completed a craft, or gathered your first item, or fished your first fish (etc etc etc)Quote:
Originally Posted by Souljacker