Can this be a thing? I don't understand why PvP is always behind is all content in introducing tomes to this gameplay mode. It would actually encourage more people to PvP rather than dungeon running all the time for these tomes (or hunts), which are already quickly saturated.
Adding Tomes of Law to PvP
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06-23-2015, 02:50 PMWishlesAdding Tomes of Law to PvP
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06-23-2015, 04:14 PMzeopower6
It probably won't be available for the level 50 maps, but will likely be a reward for the new map alongside Esoterics. Would probably have to completely phase out Poetics before Duty Roulette: FL or Carteneau Flats: Borderland Ruins gets Law.
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06-23-2015, 10:43 PMBlubbers
I am thinking this will get added in 4 weeks with the new FL map.
In the same vein, I think the i80 den and level 50 frontlines maps should give something like 3% of your EXP bar per match for frontlines and .5% for den. This would be in line with 30/40 den which gave EXP. You used to be able to go 30-50 entirely through den, so a logical extension of that would be letting us go 50-60 as well.
3% EXP would be small enough that if you had unrealistic back to back instant pops it would take roughly 8 1/2 hours to level up. Would mainly be nice for those leveling up their alts or wishing to break up the regular grind. -
06-27-2015, 11:51 PMWishles
I hope that they actually introduce the new PvP maps with new tomes right away. This content has always lagged behind the rest and it's very noticeable.
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06-29-2015, 04:30 AMzeopower6
I recall we got poetics immediately after it was introduced, so law and esoterics probably are coming with the new map, while old FL will always have the 'old' uncapped tome.
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06-29-2015, 04:48 AMDan_Strife
Been queued for 77 mintues on a Sunday afternoon for Frontlines Roulette.
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06-29-2015, 06:35 AMAstryoneusIs it a huge surprise most people aren't doing old content within a week of an expansion coming out? Calm your butts, you will get your law. Maybe. And yes, it sucks we ain't getting new PvP right away.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan_Strife
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06-29-2015, 07:22 AMnickx
I think centaurio seals would be a good reward as well, to give people an alternative to farming hunts and more incentive to PvP. Or perhaps even give the option to be rewarded either law or seals.
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07-04-2015, 10:33 AMKamyar
they just need to add a bonus exp amount for the daily roulette
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07-04-2015, 10:37 AMHypieWell thats because PvP is not a Pillar of this Game its just a "oh they have pvp...okay..." thing. And it should stay that Way. I don't want all these PvP Maniacs from other Games here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wishles
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07-04-2015, 10:39 AMVandrilWhy not? We already have a fair number of PvE elitists from other games here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hypie
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07-04-2015, 10:44 AMHypieWell because exactly of these. You see how toxic the general Tune gets. Now imagine you have all these PvP Maniacs here, that flame you like "lolol can only hit dumb Mobs and no Ppl with Brain l2p" and analyze the Classes into the smallest detail (they think they do) and then cry for nerfs or buffs of classes in PvP.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vandril
No thank you i love XIV. And if you love XIV you don't want em here too. -
07-04-2015, 01:21 PMnickx
Square has already made the game design decision to incorporate PvP into their game. There is no reason they shouldn't continue adding additional content and provide currency that can be used for PvE purchases.
Every game will always have its toxic players, whether in PvE or PvP, and you always have the choice to ignore those players if they are a problem. -
07-04-2015, 04:28 PMVandrilI was being a bit sarcastic in my last post. It wasn't meant to be taken literally. Sorry about that, I should have been more clear.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hypie
Heh, I wonder if I should start using sarcmark. Anyway...
Excuse my bluntness, but my point was how stupid a reason that would be to not keep PvP updated with the times just like PvE. Why must one piece of content suffer when the other doesn't if both cause the same problem? Because it's the "lesser content" in the game? Don't give me that bull. Both PvE and PvP are wonderful features in FFXIV, with the latter only being "lesser" due to it suffering from developer neglect.
Mark my words: if Square put half the effort into PvP that they put into their PvE, then FFXIV's PvP would be every bit as important and grand as the PvE.
I dislike elitists (not to be confused with the actual, discreet and skilled elite - elitists, in my eyes, are the loud, obnoxious people who greatly overestimate their own skills, like those "PvP Maniacs" you mentioned) as much as the next guy and think they tend to ruin MMO communities by making them toxic. I've seen it in multiple MMORPGs, and, in general, it's only getting worse. But phasing out and neglecting content of any sort is not a solution to the elitism problem. -
07-04-2015, 04:43 PMAstryoneusWhy? I'm curious, because usually people list pretty BS reasons.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hypie
EDIT: Oh, never mind. You already replied to someone with the exact BS reasons everyone always lists. No further comments needed. -
07-05-2015, 04:54 AMGooner_iBluAirJGROh my gosh thank you. Just 10 Centurio and 15 law per match and people would flock to the fronline.Quote:
Originally Posted by nickx
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07-07-2015, 04:15 PMmorerancor
All you have to do is run around on your chocobo for the duration of the match and you get the rewarded with law and centino, awesome......like we didn't have enough people exploiting pvp as it is.
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07-07-2015, 05:07 PMEvangela
It should be. PvP content shouldn't be treated like a second rate content.
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07-09-2015, 03:13 AMGuesswhatSE plays on the mentality from people who just want BiS for BiS' sake. A mentality I dont't have.Quote:
Originally Posted by morerancor
You play the hardest raids in order to achieve BiS. And once you have BiS, then what? I don't see a reason to get BiS just for the sake of BiS, when there are no content to use BiS on. Easier to help people? Bragging rights? Feeling of completion? Even in prep for new content seems like a waste to me, as it's obsolete fast. (I'm only half serious here; if we continue down this rabbithole we could ask ourselves why we even play games :P)
In my case I play the game to have fun. And PvP is the most fun (and admittingly most frustrating at times) imo (along with some raid bosses). And seeing how the PvP content is implemented, the most efficient way would be to lure BiS/PvE/vanity players in with law tomes. I don't see why, for instance, a daily 50 law tome reward should not be given in frontline as is. The other content would hardly suffer. -
07-09-2015, 04:42 PMmorerancor
I hate when people treat pvp like second rate content. Had a 4 people just running around in front lines slaughter 24 man, it looked like they just had each other on follow. I couldn't vote dismiss till for 5 minutes. By then no cared and were just running around too since we had no chance at mid. If you pvp enough and take the time to look at the parse at the end of the game you could see how many people don't care and our just here for easy rewards.