Keep the 30min auto-kick system?

What do you think?

I think they should keep it, i didnt even crash or get kicked once on early access,
and i wouldnt mind keeping it.

Information from patch notes:

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[2.0] To reduce server congestion after the release of patch 3.0, players who are inactive for thirty minutes will be logged out automatically.

* We will continue to monitor server activity and remove this feature when server congestion is determined to no longer be an issue.

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Should we keep it ?

Hit that like button below.

Dislike / Dont like?.... well like the poster-reply under this post of mine. :D

no, AFKers won't be any problem 2 months later.

If I can ever get logged in, I never want to log out. I hope this isn't a thing that sticks around. I'll just find a mechanism to nudge my controller every so often when I need to go AFK.

i think it should defiantly stick around for a few more days while the actual release takes place but shouldn't be needed a week or so after that. SE just really needs to realize the investments FFXIV will be and upgrade the hell outta their servers. Should be coming up soon anyways if they are planning to do ishgard housing. The only way the housing situation would be truly fixed is if they got their own dedicated servers.

Sure, keep it. It's easy enough to get around it anyway, since all the old "exploits" that people used to get around it at 2.0s launch still seem to work.

I've always been in favor of the 30min afk-kick, at least for the larger servers. I don't understand why people want to keep their character afk for days when there are no login issues like 2002. If they did keep it, however, they would need to try to close some of the loopholes otherwise it won't help significantly.

Most of the community does not seem to agree since it was very unpopular at 2.0s launch.

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Originally Posted by Naria

I've always been in favor of the 30min afk-kick, at least for the larger servers. I don't understand why people want to keep their character afk for days when there are no login issues like 2002. If they did keep it, however, they would need to try to close some of the loopholes otherwise it won't help significantly.

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I detect a big fat lie

Wow, I hope psychic isn't your day job then. I haven't been keeping my character logged in for hours. The only time I have had her logged in that long in the past is when I forgot she was logged in. I do understand people's frustration, but that doesn't mean I'm afk crafting. In EA only "circumventing" I've done is come back and tapped my keyboard in between taking my dogs out, just in case.

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Originally Posted by Evangela

no, AFKers won't be any problem 2 months later.

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As long as the active server population prevents me from creating additional characters on my home server at reasonable hours of the day, I disagree.

As long as we dont get new content like the fates we had to do in our relic ooks its fine.

I remember waiting 2 1/2 hours for one fate. I played another game meanwhile. If it would auto kick me 5 times during that period I would probably still be stuck at the books.

Although I do camp fishing holes sometimes too.

Actually they need to get rid of timed content if they are adding it full time imo

Auto-logout should be activated the moment the server starts a login queue, and disabled the moment nobody's waiting in the queue.

It has nothing to do with server population or new expansion or hype or whatever. When someone legitimately needs a resource that others are just holding for no valid reason, then that resource should be reclaimed and distributed to those who actually are needing it.

Where's the dislike button?

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Originally Posted by djruden

If I can ever get logged in, I never want to log out. I hope this isn't a thing that sticks around. I'll just find a mechanism to nudge my controller every so often when I need to go AFK.

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And its thinking like that which is making the problem worse. I'd be willing to bet that, while there would probably still be some problems, most of the issues we be resolved if people would just log out if they aren't actually playing.

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Originally Posted by Laughlyn

Hit that like button below.

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/facepalm - What people do for likes these days...

The thing is so easy to circumvent it is kind of pointless as it is now

Nah, don't keep it. Wont need it after a month.

No. It won't matter in about a month or two when half the players leave to go back to WoW, or ESO, or candy crush, or w/e.

Never understood why they removed it after 2.0 beta either, tbh... If anything, I'd say extend it - extend it so it also boots those who are taking advantage of those old exploits. Extremely disrespectful and ignorant to be doing that for hours on end. So far, it was tough getting in when the EA actually started, but since then, only a few short queues when logging in in the morning. And I am on Gilgamesh.

No thanks.

I rather them remove the option after congestion is cleared up, last time they didn't remove it and was getting complaints.
I think its okay during expansions and such when they get things ironed out.

There were times I flagged up and during those times I had to wait 30 minutes for a dungeon and so I did something else on another game while I waited, if I were to get kicked out of the server because of afk manager during that time I wouldn't be to happy I waited all that time for nothing.

The sooner they get rid of it the better in my opinion.

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Originally Posted by Chihaya

/facepalm - What people do for likes these days...

The thing is so easy to circumvent it is kind of pointless as it is now

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Does it looks like i need any more likes "these Days" ?

we both been around since the game came out.... get over yourself and these trolling attempts.
(Sorry...my bad, it seems' i've been around abit longer...fail!)

I dont need likes to get "fame", i already made a name for myself without,
im pretty sure you can ask one of your "fellow" FC's on the server about my reputation.

The like button is there for Dev team to see what people like, and the rest...im sure you can figure that out.

bury your head deep within that /facepalm of yours because this forums still dont have a dislike button and
that even more easier circumvent by liking the first "negative" response post after mine. (however they did that for a damn good reason)
It dosent require much intelligence to figure that out.

i see your /facepalm & raises you a triple hand /facepalm cuz someone just got ownd by no0mz

doesnt bother me sinc ei never afk longer then 5mins :3 if i have to i log out incase some1 wants the tv/ps4 lol

I'm the one who makes food in home, it's annoying being kicked every time i have to cook, so no please.

And it's not like we can't bypass it.

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Originally Posted by Zfz

Auto-logout should be activated the moment the server starts a login queue, and disabled the moment nobody's waiting in the queue.

It has nothing to do with server population or new expansion or hype or whatever. When someone legitimately needs a resource that others are just holding for no valid reason, then that resource should be reclaimed and distributed to those who actually are needing it.

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This won't happen because the feature is client-side, you actually get a 20 second logout timer (like you do when logging out in a non-sanctuary) with the yes and no options when the time is up. The feature simply initiates the logout command with the 20 second timer even in sanctuaries, which is why it can be bypassed by afking in an activity that prevents logging out in a normal way.

Reason people craft-afk etc. is simple, they don't want to take the risk of not being able to login again because of 2002 errors (which are even more infuriating than 1017 because you get booted to desktop). Back during launch days, I remember being unable to login for 3 days, I don't find it unreasonable to be unwilling to have that experience again.

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Originally Posted by Sove92

This won't happen because the feature is client-side, you actually get a 20 second logout timer (like you do when logging out in a non-sanctuary) with the yes and no options when the time is up.

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It is technically possible to just let the server push an order to initiate auto logout. The interface is client side, but just like how we get moogle mail notifications, the server can notify our software to pop that logout timer.

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Originally Posted by Zfz

It is technically possible to just let the server push an order to initiate auto logout. The interface is client side, but just like how we get moogle mail notifications, the server can notify our software to pop that logout timer.

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Possible, yes, but tracking the idle time of every player requires server resources, we don't know how much stress it would add, but I can assume SE thought it was a better idea to have it client-side, it's not like most people bypass it.

as a publisher, there's no reason for them to not want more online characters even though they're AFKing.

they want new players to see how their game has so many players.

this 30 mins kick out thing is temporary and I think they want to disable it as soon as possible.

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Originally Posted by Renik

I'm the one who makes food in home, it's annoying being kicked every time i have to cook, so no please.

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So do I, and I log off when doing so. I fail to understand why you need to be logged in if you're not even playing.

I really hope the auto-kick stays in place. It's necessary in my opinion. It helps reduce lag by clearing out idlers, who won't be missing out on much since they're not even there. The only arguments against the afk system are from those who find it 'too annoying' to log back in. I chalk that up to simple laziness, which the devs certainly shouldn't pander to.

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Originally Posted by Lemuria

So do I, and I log off when doing so. I fail to understand why you need to be logged in if you're not even playing.

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It's not a problem once the servers are stable, but afking players are not exactly a problem in less populated servers either. It should stay for heavily populated worlds (but it's client-side so it won't) but lesser ones don't need it after the initial rush is over. But as long as the servers are not that stable, people are not willing to take the risk of not being able to login again. Ss I mentioned, I had a horror experience of being unable to play for 3 days and completely fell behind in progression, this was 1017 and not 2002, but still. I'm not willing to experience that again.