AST Attributes points

I was wondering how should i spend my attribute points. Should I put any points into Piety or just all in Mind. I played SCH before so i never really had to worry about mana, but on my AST I had mana problems pre 50 ( I just got 51) so I don't know how bad it is in other content.

I know AST has Luminiferous Aether to regen mana but it still was not enough. Any thoughts?

MND all the way

I'm 52 and it wasnt many times I had problems with mana. I guess we'll have to wait till 60 and see AST with all skills and proper gear.

TBH even as SCH I ran out of mana when I had to do both healer's jobs. My guess is we'll be fine with everything into Mind. The more we heal the less spells we cast.

I'm going with Mind, unless I need to invest some into Vit for the future raids. I typically get all the piety I need through gear choices, but we'll see.

If ur gonna dps as much as you would on a whm/ sch u'd probs wanna invest in some piety. I'm almost lvl 57 and have done some double mob pulls in the dungeons and damnnnn the dmg is quite a lot which forces me to switch CS off some times.
But being able to cast 3 dots + malefic 2 or gravity is pretty nice i guess.

Really? I am putting all in mnd, I rarelly have mana problems and if I do i can use an x ether and its fine, so I'm going to say put all in mnd

Always put points into Mind. Eventually the gear powercreep makes points dumped into Piety not as good of a payoff.

Preliminary checks on the stats suggest that WHM has the highest, AST second highest, and SCH last for both PIE per level and PIE per MP.

Like if you're used to playing WHM without having MP management issues, then AST should be no different.

I put 4 points into all six stat to round things off and have a little fun. Then the other 6 I put into Piety by level 50. I might do the rest into Mind or Intelligence depending on how I feel by 60 but I will wait to see what ilvl 180 gear feels like before I spend them.

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Originally Posted by Huneidu

I put 4 points into all six stat to round things off and have a little fun. Then the other 6 I put into Piety by level 50. I might do the rest into Mind or Intelligence depending on how I feel by 60 but I will wait to see what ilvl 180 gear feels like before I spend them.

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Never put points into INT if you are playing a healer class, that is detrimental since Cleric Stance swaps MND and INT. Points should either go into all MND (for increased healing or damage) or split with PIE if you're finding the MP management troublesome.

Only the SMN/SCH has the INT/MND dilemma.

I'm level 54 so far up to Churning Mists in story, AND I heal and DPS, and I have never had any MP issues.

Since they provide Piety buff like Scholars, my points are all going Piety, just like my Scholar (and sadly consequently, my Summoner). More MP FTW xD
It has yet to bite me in the butt.

Hmm that what i was thinking about:

Nocturnal stance: +5% Heal potency could work with a Piety/Det build for average shields (there is no effect that increase ur power of ur shields like Adlo from SCH thats why im thinking about not to use crit even if crit heal = ur shield)

Diurnal stance: +5% Attackspeed .. maybe a piety/SS build or SS/Det

sry for my bad english^^ german here

My two mains are BLM and AST. However I play more AST because of the intricacies of the class. Like everyone on here suggest MND, MND, and more MND lol. The only time I have ever had any mana issues is when I am having to revive other people or my party in raid or dungeon fell short so bad I had to light speed heals like crazy (mainly due to the the DPS having to be tank because tank can hold agro). MND is better for AST, also remember the ewr+balance/bole (royal roads)=mp regen extreme in case you want to hold on to luminous aether in a tight bind ( I use my ewr on myself, WHM, or DRK).

your armor and accessories will pick up the slack on peity and if your luck is good even spell speed that has help me out of some good binds being at least a sec quicker on my heals

There isn't real stat diversity in this game. Your main stat is always most desired (accuracy used to contend more for healers and PvP/Bleeding progression might tempt you for Vit, but you shouldn't use your free attribute stats for it) Go full mind and GEAR towards the amount of piety you need. End game gear has plenty. :]

If we are talking attribute points, MIND will always triumph PIETY due to MIND severely increasing both your healing and attack magic potencies. If you are having MP issues, PIETY is never the answer, especially when you consider that the natural in-combat MP regen is around 1.99% (basically 2%) of your MAX MP, which translates into an extra cast here and there.

To give perspective, at level 60 and with iLvL 240 (919 PIETY) gear, my max MP Pool is 15,142. Moving my 35 MIND Attributes to PIETY (now at 954), I reach to 15,368 max MP pool which is a small 226 max MP increase. If we look at natural in-combat regen, the difference becomes even more apparent.

919 PIETY -- 15,142 max MP -- 302 natural in-combat MP Regen tick.

954 PIETY -- 15368 max MP -- 307 natural in-combat MP Regen tick.

Note: PIETY only effects percentage based MP restoration spells such as Aetherflow (20%) and Assize (10%). It has no influence whatsoever with Shroud of Saints and Luminferous Aether. Also, as we gain more PIETY in future patches and expansions, the 1.99% natural in-combat MP regen gets closer to 2%.

Disclaimer: This post is not anti-piety on gear, so please do not interpret my post as "avoid PIETY as if it were the plague."

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