Soldiery ?

The 3.0 patch notes say that Soldiery tomes are disappearing (for everyone, even those without access to the new Law tomes). But they don't mention how the formerly Soldiery gear will be obtained next.

The i70 Philosophy gear became drops from Brayflox Longstop (Hard). The i90 Mythology gear became tradeable for tokens dropped from the Sunken Temple of Qarn (Hard), Snowcloak, or Sastasha (Hard). Where will the i100 Soldiery gear come from once Soldery no longer exists?

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Originally Posted by Niwashi

The 3.0 patch notes say that Soldiery tomes are disappearing (for everyone, even those without access to the new Law tomes). But they don't mention how the formerly Soldiery gear will be obtained next.

The i70 Philosophy gear became drops from Brayflox Longstop (Hard). The i90 Mythology gear became tradeable for tokens dropped from the Sunken Temple of Qarn (Hard), Snowcloak, or Sastasha (Hard). Where will the i100 Soldiery gear come from once Soldery no longer exists?

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You can already buy the Soldiery gear with allied seals.
Another option can be that they put them into the 2.4/2.5 mainstory quest rewards

That, or they may just add lv100 soldiery gear to the loot table of dungeons that already drop lv100 gear.

Remember that the very same dungeons that drop darklight (lv70 "blue" gear previously purchased with Tomes of Philosophy) also drop lv70 "green" gear.

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Originally Posted by aerolol

That, or they may just add lv100 soldiery gear to the loot table of dungeons that already drop lv100 gear.

Remember that the very same dungeons that drop darklight (lv70 "blue" gear previously purchased with Tomes of Philosophy) also drop lv70 "green" gear.

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this, they're more likely to get moved into teh level 51 dungeon and they're already available through hunting, this isnt' the first time they've done away with tomes, there's a new kind every 6 months and the lowest value one disappears. Its really nothing new.

So.....spend soldiery or convert it? what is happening here?

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Originally Posted by Felis

You can already buy the Soldiery gear with allied seals.

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I guess I assumed that was going away the same as the ability to get Myth gear from Allied Seals went away when Myth tomes themselves went away. But I guess the patch notes didn't really say that part is happening again, and with Centurio Seals being introduced specifically for hunts in the HW regions, it's possible our Allied Seals are staying as-is.

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Originally Posted by Felis

Another option can be that they put them into the 2.4/2.5 mainstory quest rewards

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That's possible, too. (I hope, though, they do it more like the i90 gear that drops as tokens tradeable for any job's gear, rather than the i70 that drops as specific pieces of equipment, whether it's the one you want or not.)

I wish I knew how it was going to be handled, though. There's a fair amount of it I'm going to want but haven't collected if I haven't leveled that job far yet. It seems like a significant enough change that it would have belonged in the Patch Notes.

Agreed, will just be mixed in with the loot drops of the dungeons. Perfect way for new people to catch up as well (those who didnt have a chance to farm for the tomes and items)

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Originally Posted by lordoftheapes79

this isnt' the first time they've done away with tomes, there's a new kind every 6 months and the lowest value one disappears. Its really nothing new.

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The part that's new is that they're removing the lower value tomes from everyone but only allowing the newer replacement for certain players and not others. (Tomestones of Law come from the Heavensward expansion.) Given that there's an expansion involved this time, I was expecting (and hoping) that they'd keep Soldiery and Poetics unchanged but limited to the ARR regions, while Law and Esoterics were for the HW regions.

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Originally Posted by Niwashi

The part that's new is that they're removing the lower value tomes from everyone but only allowing the newer replacement for certain players and not others. (Tomestones of Law come from the Heavensward expansion.) Given that there's an expansion involved this time, I was expecting (and hoping) that they'd keep Soldiery and Poetics unchanged but limited to the ARR regions, while Law and Esoterics were for the HW regions.

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Poetic is the new Soldiery.

Poetic - need a lv50+ job to earn it - lv 50 / ilevel 120 equip
Law - need a lv60 job to earn it - lv 60 / ilevel 170 equip
Esoteric (weekly capped, come 4 weeks after release ingame) - need a lv60 job to ean it - lv 60 / ilevel ??? equip

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Originally Posted by Felis

Poetic is the new Soldiery.

Poetic - need a lv50+ job to earn it - lv 50 / ilevel 120 equip
Law - need a lv60 job to earn it - lv 60 / ilevel 170 equip
Esoteric (weekly capped, come 4 weeks after release ingame) - need a lv60 job to ean it - lv 60 / ilevel ??? equip

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That's why I said they're removing the lower value tomes from everyone but only allowing the newer replacement for certain players. Law and Esoteric are exclusive to Heavensward and not available to ARR players. ARR players are going from having both Soldiery and Poetics to only Poetics and nothing else.

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Originally Posted by Niwashi

That's why I said they're removing the lower value tomes from everyone but only allowing the newer replacement for certain players. Law and Esoteric are exclusive to Heavensward and not available to ARR players. ARR players are going from having both Soldiery and Poetics to only Poetics and nothing else.

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Most people are going to have this expansion. For everyone else, there's masterca-- err. But no, I'm sure they'll offer soldiery gear in other ways (currently it's available with allied seals as well). I read somewhere that quest rewards will be enough to meet ilvl requirements so that new/return players can more easily catch up and jump into Heavensward. Regardless, I'm sure that there will be a rather large increase to poetics tome drops (aside from just the roulette changes... I'm wondering if high level roulette will still give 100 poetics for people who don't have a level 60? I may not have read closely enough.)