Range DPS LB confirmed?

So the new trailer shows Bard's new LB being a Massive AoE that rain down Magical Swords or Arrows down at a target location.

also Machinist is getting a Orbital Strike LB at a target location as well.

So do you think these are Range AoE LB a good amount of players have been asking for?

Discuss!

What I would like to see for BRD is for them to have 2 LBs, they get a choice to do a healer LB or a DPS LB.

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Originally Posted by EdwinLi

So the new trailer shows Bard's new LB being a Massive AoE that rain down Magical Swords or Arrows down at a target location.

also Machinist is getting a Orbital Strike LB at a target location as well.

So do you think these are Range AoE LB a good amount of players have been asking for?

Discuss!

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yes. Square enix already said they were doing this.

:D discussion complete.

I would hope that that massive aoe look a like is more of a single target, or it also inflicts some kind of long debuff to make it more usable because as of now i guarantee that melee dps will still be pretty much the most used lb.

new sig ^o^

yeah hope its different and has some kind of debuff (dmg done to the targed increased by 25% for 20s ........one can dream :o )

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Originally Posted by gzuscry

I would hope that that massive aoe look a like is more of a single target, or it also inflicts some kind of long debuff to make it more usable because as of now i guarantee that melee dps will still be pretty much the most used lb.

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Agreed 100%

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Originally Posted by gzuscry

I would hope that that massive aoe look a like is more of a single target, or it also inflicts some kind of long debuff to make it more usable because as of now i guarantee that melee dps will still be pretty much the most used lb.

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uhm....does that look like single target to you? maybe on a huge raid boss, but...no, it's AOE...like caster LB...

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Originally Posted by Radacci

uhm....does that look like single target to you? maybe on a huge raid boss, but...no, it's AOE...like caster LB...

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Final Heaven and Dalamud Dive has massive AoEs that only hit a single target...

I kind of hate when people say "so this video showed this and that" but they don't actually link the video. Share it instead of expecting that everyone has seen it :c

Edit: Okay now that I've seen the video I can give my opinon.
I like it!

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Originally Posted by Kiara1

I kind of hate when people say "so this video showed this and that" but they don't actually link the video. Share it instead of expecting that everyone has seen it :c

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Here you go!

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Originally Posted by WellFooled

Here you go!

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Thank you!

So the new Limit Break for ranged DDs is... a Fate/Stay Night side story rip. Awesome. No, I mean it, Unlimited Blade Works makes for a cool Limit.

It was confirmed long ago that BRD's LB3 was changing to a DPS one. MCH's following suit shouldn't be any more of a shock.

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Originally Posted by gzuscry

I would hope that that massive aoe look a like is more of a single target, or it also inflicts some kind of long debuff to make it more usable because as of now i guarantee that melee dps will still be pretty much the most used lb.

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It's a pretty safe assumption that it's not going to be any different for bards or machinists than the existing AoE limit break. If you start having variations like that, you'll get classes that are undesireable due to the nature of their limit break. All melee will be single target, all ranged will be AoE, all healers will have the heal/raise and all tanks will have damage reduction.

Can totally see this in the future:

Party: "Hey BLM, caster LB those adds."
BLM: "But mah deeps. Have the Bard do it."

I've never seen anyone Voted out because of lack of a limit, ever. I HAVE seen people actively avoiding using the Limit when there was someone who could use it. What this does do, however, is address the elephant that's been in the room since Limit Break was added, Bard not even being able to use it outside of threat of wipe. We've been asking for it for years now, it's about time.

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Originally Posted by Gilraen

So the new Limit Break for ranged DDs is... a Fate/Stay Night side story rip. Awesome. No, I mean it, Unlimited Blade Works makes for a cool Limit.

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You mean Gates of Babylon.

I saved a lot of stupid moments with the Healer LB as BRD and a part of me will always sorely miss it. I can't be mad because I know it's been necessary for BRD to have a proper LB, but still, a tear is shed and butt cheeks clenched for the coming wipes we will sustain.

I'll still always want personal LBs, though.

All problems would be solved if we got individual LB bars. XD

Orbital strike....tactical nuke, I see no difference.

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Originally Posted by MaethusXion

You mean Gates of Babylon.

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Really? It reminds me more of Myriad Arrows.
https://youtu.be/vnQc6xcQ33g?t=12m54s

So I get unlimited bladeworks? THANKS SE *_*

*points at sig* im a pleased with this

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Originally Posted by Gilraen

I've never seen anyone Voted out because of lack of a limit, ever. I HAVE seen people actively avoiding using the Limit when there was someone who could use it. What this does do, however, is address the elephant that's been in the room since Limit Break was added, Bard not even being able to use it outside of threat of wipe. We've been asking for it for years now, it's about time.

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With respect, sir, that is incorrect.

Back when ifrit hm was first released the easiest tactic was to aoe blast the nails with a caster limit break.

Amongst the NA servers there were many complaints about pugs ditching the duty of there happened to be no blm/smn in the party.

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Originally Posted by Sessurea

So I get unlimited bladeworks? THANKS SE *_*

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As a NIN, you do.
So happy.

http://i.imgur.com/yyRMbGx.gif

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Originally Posted by FallenArisen0990

Really? It reminds me more of Myriad Arrows.
https://youtu.be/vnQc6xcQ33g?t=12m54s

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Was sticking with the FATE/Stay Night theme honestly. Plus as Allyrion said, NIN's looks more like Ultimate Blade Works.

For those wondering why: UBW are weapons coming from the ground, then pulled out and used(though not all at once like NIN's LB3). Whereas GoB the weapons all come from the sky and launch at the target(s).

The limit break for ranged physical DPS has been changed to an attack to all targets in a straight line before the caster. Furthermore, level three limit breaks can now only be used by jobs. From the notes.

Line AOE...thats new :) Wonder what the potency is!

Doubt the potency changes. I'd still like my heal lb back ;_; but will see how this works. But yeah kinda expected a line aoe for the ranged physical dps.

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Originally Posted by ruskie

Doubt the potency changes. I'd still like my heal lb back ;_; but will see how this works. But yeah kinda expected a line aoe for the ranged physical dps.

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I have never seen a BRD use the healing LB.
On the other hand I have been in dungeons with double BRD as our DPS = NOBODY used LB.

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Originally Posted by sirDarts

I have never seen a BRD use the healing LB.
On the other hand I have been in dungeons with double BRD as our DPS = NOBODY used LB.

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Used it often enough to save things.

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Originally Posted by Sessurea

So I get unlimited bladeworks? THANKS SE *_*

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Translated, Chi Matsuri means blood festival, enjoy !

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Originally Posted by Allyrion

As a NIN, you do.
So happy.

http://i.imgur.com/yyRMbGx.gif

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I love how they showed that off against the new Primal; "Four-fold master of the blade? How cute!"

Really hoping ranged Limit Break ends up being a frontal AoE which gets reduced potency the more targets. Can't really see it being unique otherwise; DPS for single target, ranged for 2~3 targets in a line, mage for 4+ targets.

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Originally Posted by Shuon

here's from the patch note

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Yeah, I've read the patch notes... Reduced potency for more targets was my key point, which is actually how a fair number of boss mechanics work, so it's certainly possible. It would make the Limit Break far more interesting and distinct compared to mages Limit Break. I imagine they'll just go for slightly stronger than mages, but the strait line it fires in being very restrictive as the pay-off for that extra AoE damage, though.

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Originally Posted by Nalien

I love how they showed that off against the new Primal; "Four-fold master of the blade? How cute!"

Really hoping ranged Limit Break ends up being a frontal AoE which gets reduced potency the more targets. Can't really see it being unique otherwise; DPS for single target, ranged for 2~3 targets in a line, mage for 4+ targets.

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here's from the patch note

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[2.0][3.0] The limit break has been adjusted as follows:
The limit break for ranged physical DPS has been changed to an attack to all targets in a straight line before the caster. Furthermore, level three limit breaks can now only be used by jobs.

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Wondering what scenario will cause the ranged LB to be desirable over a casters. Other than all casters are dead, not in the party.